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Anyway, arguing with children only gets you childish responses, it seems. 
The ignore button is perfect for these situations. :-) 

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 See, now you're just being plain argumentative for the sake of it. I'm not biting. 
You appear to have nothing useful left to say. (not that you ever did. Your first comment on here was just to be an insulting douchebag after all, rather than make an actual point). Then when you got called out on it by multiple people, you got butt hurt and started arguing with everyone. I don't see any point in pandering to your insecure need for attention any more.
Bye now.

 And meanwhile there's at least three users in this thread who called you out for your bullcrap, yet you're still going too, daft as ever. Something about a pot and a kettle, can't quite put my finger on it...

I'll have to admit though, yours is a creative way of saying "I can't respond to #49 because I have no valid points". I'll keep that one in mind. 

 Yeah, keep digging kid. Lol

And yet it seems to be only you and C_a_w who appear to be having a problem understanding simple statistics. Your mental arithmetic that led you to believe that "you and him makes 3" explains everything. XD

Also, being called out for "bullcrap" usually requires said bullcrap to have existed nthe first place. You're just acting butthurt because the statistics proved you wrong multiple times and you can't handle it, in true snowflake fashion. Sigh. Another one for the list...

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 Because cherry picking statistics to support his nonsensical claim is all he's capable of.

This guy doesn't know when he's beat! Haha!

 What do you mean mister thorough? You didn't even respond to my previous post :(

 You quoted my response in your complaint that I didn't respond. 

 Thank you for further showing everyone here just how daft you are. 

I responded to you more than once :). Check page 3 again, sweetie. 

 See, now you're just being plain argumentative for the sake of it. I'm not biting. 
You appear to have nothing useful left to say. (not that you ever did. Your first comment on here was just to be an insulting douchebag after all, rather than make an actual point). Then when you got called out on it by multiple people, you got butt hurt and started arguing with everyone. I don't see any point in pandering to your insecure need for attention any more.
Bye now.

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 Because cherry picking statistics to support his nonsensical claim is all he's capable of.

This guy doesn't know when he's beat! Haha!

 What do you mean mister thorough? You didn't even respond to my previous post :(

 You quoted my response in your complaint that I didn't respond. 

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 Yes, if you pick a hunter deck that is hardly played, then Odd Paladin might be a better choice. 
Oh dear....

2nd and 3rd most played deck in the GAME is not "hard played". 

I always aim to be thorough, so let's go with your altered version of the stats and double check. 
And we will use the link provided in Atrementar's comment as you ssuggest.

Odd Paladin stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 70.6%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 65.5% winrate Odd Quest Warrior stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 87.4%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 68.1%

So..... I think that pretty much settles that one. 
But I'm sure you'll try and argue it some more. ^_^ 

Sigh.... lol

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What about the other two most popular Hunter decks, Secret and Midrange Hunter ?  2nd and 3rd most played deck in the meta. Why are you ignoring these two decks ?

 Yes, if you pick a hunter deck that is hardly played, then Odd Paladin might be a better choice. 
Oh dear....

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 Because cherry picking statistics to support his nonsensical claim is all he's capable of.

This guy doesn't know when he's beat! Haha!

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If you're an Odd Paladin and come up against a version of hunter that is almost never played like Deathrattle Hunter (according to the stats), then yes, it may be a better option than Odd Qu Warrior. 

Deathrattle Hunter is 12.7% of all Hunter decks. Far from "never played".

 You think only 12% of all hunter decks across the meta constitutes being played a lot. 
Ok.... sigh....

 8th most popular deck in the meta, behind Spell, Midrange, Secret Hunter, Odd Paladin, Control, Clone Priest and Odd Rogue. 

If that doesn't satisfy you then I can happily ignore Deathrattle Hunter and other Hunter decks less popular than it. That leaves us with Spell Hunter, Secret Hunter and Midrange Hunter. The average winrate of Odd Paladin against these three decks is higher than that of Odd Quest Warrior:

Odd Paladin :

Spell Hunter : 54.7%

Midrange Hunter : 58.4%

Secret Hunter : 56.4%

avg : 56.5%

Odd Quest Warrior :

Spell Hunter : 60.9%

Midrange Hunter : 56.2%

Secret Hunter : 47.8%

avg: 54.97%

8th most popular deck.... out of 8 decks.... /facepalm.
Runner up is still last place in a 2 horse race. Sigh...

Not to mention the cherry picking once again. You might as well just leave it with this and be done with it:

Odd Paladin :
(Most commonly played deck) Spell Hunter : 54.7%

Odd Quest Warrior :
(Most commonly played deck) Spell Hunter : 60.9%

Job done. But feel free to keep trying to cherry picking ways of getting a false positive from your results.
I've given you the facts with evidence. You can keep trying to fiddle the data all you like. All this just because the previous guy was being a troll and failed. Lol!
I don't see any value in continuing to prove my point in this way and as I said before: I hate having to repeat myhself.
Damn... look what you went and did... >_>

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If you're an Odd Paladin and come up against a version of hunter that is almost never played like Deathrattle Hunter (according to the stats), then yes, it may be a better option than Odd Qu Warrior. 

Deathrattle Hunter is 12.7% of all Hunter decks. Far from "never played".

 You think only 12% of all hunter decks across the meta constitutes being played a lot. 
Ok.... sigh....

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Please take a closer look and hopefully you can see that against Deathrattle Hunter, Warrior has 20% winrate while Paladin has >70%. Recruit and Secret Hunter also have a 50%+ winrate against Warrior. Paladin has 60%+ winrate against ALL Hunter decks. Paladin is heavily favoured against ALL Hunter decks while Warrior is good against only 3 of them. 

 *cough* Remind me what you were saying about Chery Picking data again?
Hang on - let me go and find a random Hunter deck that proves my argument a second.

Oh wait. I don't have to, since literally the most commonly played Hunter deck in Hearthstone (Spell Hunter) already does that...
^_^

Spell Hunter is favoured for both Odd Warrior and Paladin with only 5% more to Warrior. Deathratttle Hunter is HEAVILY UNFAVOURED for Warrior (20% wr) while Paladin has 70% wr against it. Secret and Recruit Hunter are also bad for Warrior. 

There you go, 3 out 6 MOST popular Hunter decks has 50%+ winrate against Warrior while none of them even has 45%+ winrate against Paladin.

I can see you're just not going to accept the stats don't support your argument without some real mental gymnastics and cherry-picking. For that reason and since I've already more than proved my point successfully, I don't feel there's anything more I need to add that hasn't already been said. 
The stats show that Odd Qu Warrior has a better win rate against the top Hunter deck AND the most played Hunter deck AND it outperforms against the top 3 hunter decks listed in comparison to Odd Paladin.
Yes, if you wrangle the stats hard enough, there's a really outside example where it looks as if Odd Paladin would be better. But you have to ignore literally all the above points to do so and it doesn't represent the basis of the original argument. 
If you're an Odd Paladin and come up against a version of hunter that is almost never played like Deathrattle Hunter (according to the stats), then yes, it may be a better option than Odd Qu Warrior. 
Sigh.... well done.
/smh

Finally found a deck that was able to punch through the wall of Combo Priests and Odd Warriors! 
Huzzah!
That secures rank 5 for next season so I can chill and just play fun decks for the rest of the month.
Or maybe some Wild and Arena.... such a relief!

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Please take a closer look and hopefully you can see that against Deathrattle Hunter, Warrior has 20% winrate while Paladin has >70%. Recruit and Secret Hunter also have a 50%+ winrate against Warrior. Paladin has 60%+ winrate against ALL Hunter decks. Paladin is heavily favoured against ALL Hunter decks while Warrior is good against only 3 of them. 

 *cough* Remind me what you were saying about Chery Picking data again?
Hang on - let me go and find a random Hunter deck that proves my argument a second.

Oh wait. I don't have to, since literally the most commonly played Hunter deck in Hearthstone (Spell Hunter) already does that...
^_^

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 Imagine using a stats page as an example without checking the stats first.

Odd Paladin - highest winrate against any hunter deck: 71.4%
Odd Quest Warrior - Highest winrate against any Hunter deck: 88.0%

Ouch! That's gotta sting, hey? 
Maybe next time try reading the stats before making ludicrous claims, kiddo.
No wonder people call you a troll... XD

 It must be tough having to compensate your reading comprehension with 10 year old memes, huh?

Please refer to Atramebtar's post (which I already referred you to previously) if that is within the grasp of your underdeveloped mind.

Hint: it's in the winrate of odd paladin against every single hunter deck, compared to the winrate of warrior decks against every hunter deck.

I always aim to be thorough, so let's go with your altered version of the stats and double check. 
And we will use the link provided in Atrementar's comment as you ssuggest.

Odd Paladin stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 70.6%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 65.5% winrate

Odd Quest Warrior stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 87.4%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 68.1%

So..... I think that pretty much settles that one. 
But I'm sure you'll try and argue it some more. ^_^ 

 That is totally wrong. You are cherrypicking hunter decks to prove your point. 

Odd Paladin : 

Odd Quest Warrior : 

As you can see, Warrior can rack up few percentage points against aggressive Hunter decks like Odd and Midrange but it's abysmal against Hunter decks that uses Kathrena Winterwisp and King Krush. Odd Paladin performs, on the other hand, is consistently very good against every Hunter deck out there. 

No it doesn't work that way. If you use that logic, you can put any number of decks in there to prove your point.
I could easily insert a number of lesser played hunter decks with 80-100% loss rate against Warrior to counteract your argument. 

There has to be a cut off point. So, either we look at the best winrate against the top rated hunter deck (in this case, it would be Odd Hunter, from the chart) or we look at the top 3 as I posted. 
In doing so, we can see how much better OQW is than OP.

Ironically, you complain about cherry-picking, and yet that is exactly what you just did there to make your own argument. You can't have it both ways.

I mean, look at your examples! You literally didn't even sort them by winrate! Lol

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Hang on. I just took a closer look at your results. Just look at the winrate for both decks against Spell Hunter (The most popular Hunter deck currently)

Warrior : 60.9% WR
Paladin: 54.7% WR

I don't know if you were trying to confirm my point, but your stats actually back my argument up anyway, even with your cherry picking. 
So.... umm... thanks? :-D

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 Imagine using a stats page as an example without checking the stats first.

Odd Paladin - highest winrate against any hunter deck: 71.4%
Odd Quest Warrior - Highest winrate against any Hunter deck: 88.0%

Ouch! That's gotta sting, hey? 
Maybe next time try reading the stats before making ludicrous claims, kiddo.
No wonder people call you a troll... XD

 It must be tough having to compensate your reading comprehension with 10 year old memes, huh?

Please refer to Atramebtar's post (which I already referred you to previously) if that is within the grasp of your underdeveloped mind.

Hint: it's in the winrate of odd paladin against every single hunter deck, compared to the winrate of warrior decks against every hunter deck.

I always aim to be thorough, so let's go with your altered version of the stats and double check. 
And we will use the link provided in Atrementar's comment as you ssuggest.

Odd Paladin stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 70.6%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 65.5% winrate

Odd Quest Warrior stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 87.4%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 68.1%

So..... I think that pretty much settles that one. 
But I'm sure you'll try and argue it some more. ^_^ 

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With the warrior i has 52% hunters which was 21 games. I did win 18 of them ...

 As it should be :-)  - Warrior is currently the best tool against Hunters.

You're dead wrong, it's not even funny. The fact that you think it's a better tool against hunters than odd paladin shows just how little you know.

"Odd Paladin is  better against Hunter than Odd Warrior..." XD 

 Imagine thinking a meme is a better argument than actual statistics (take a look at Atramentars post).

No wonder people call you a troll, lol.

 Imagine using a stats page as an example without checking the stats first.

Odd Paladin - highest winrate against any hunter deck: 71.4%
Odd Quest Warrior - Highest winrate against any Hunter deck: 88.0%

Ouch! That's gotta sting, hey? 
Maybe next time try reading the stats before making ludicrous claims, kiddo.
No wonder people call you a troll... XD

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With the warrior i has 52% hunters which was 21 games. I did win 18 of them ...

 As it should be :-)  - Warrior is currently the best tool against Hunters.

You're dead wrong, it's not even funny. The fact that you think it's a better tool against hunters than odd paladin shows just how little you know.

"Odd Paladin is  better against Hunter than Odd Warrior..." XD