Hearthpwn

Hey y'all,

Looking for opinions on wether I should craft Mojomaster Zihi or Da Undatakah.

Both feel like solid cards which can be used in several different decks. Rogue is the class I play the most by far, so I'm specifically looking into adding one of these to either a tempo or deathrattle archetype (standard), which I already have good bases of.

Currently I'm more inclined towards Zihi as the deathrattle versions with Da Undatakah I've seen showcased don't seem to actually need it that much and Mojomaster appears to be quite meta defining. Can maybe bring a tempo Rogue deck back to tier 1/2?

What's your take on this?

Offtopic when I first saw your title I am thinking deathrattle vs tempo? Tempo sure looks more ballsy.

Back on topic Da Undatakah is better

hello fellow rogue main. i opened a golden da undatakah but cant really play him. big rogue doesnt really need him. other than that, you can use him in usual dr rogue but still, no need for him. 

he is used in druid and paladin right now tho.

Yesterday i got my Undatakah and i included in my Deathrattle Hunter... for some reason that i didnt figured it out yet that card hasnt been played in competitive scene.

The Mojomaster is a tech card! Druid players will love it :p

Da Undatakah is definitely better since it helps solidify your victory against control decks later in the game. Decks, like the one I have in my signature, are at least tier 2 with the help of this card.

I'm now more inclined towards Da Undatakah just to try this.

Still feel Mojomaster Zihi might help some funish decks become closer to ladder playable (looking at pogos here, I have faith in them), but Deathrattle might just be the safer option here.

Prince Keleseth is quite good in the deck. Increases win rate by at least 12% imo. As for Carnivorous Cube it's simply a bad deathrattle to get on Da Undatakah and Mechanical Whelp is too slow in this meta. Cursed Castaway fits better and provides tempo that you would need. Sonya Shadowdancer can definitely fit in there but I don't know how it'll turn out so no comment.

Mojomaster Zihi is currently being used in Even Paladin, Even Warlock and Kingsbane Rogue with good winrate so if you feel like playing those decks you should craft him. I went for Da Undatakah since he's a neutral that fits in a lot of the decks I want to try. You're right in saying that deathrattle might be the safer option here since any deathrattle deck that arises in the future will most definitely use him. The same can be said for Mojomaster Zihi too since any deck that aims to delay control/combo decks would find a use for him. It's really about what you want to play.

As someone who has played tempo rogue this expansion, I can tell you, it's not very fun. I never feel like I truly have control of the game. Every win I had was either because my opponent drew poorly or misplayed. I haven't tried death rattle rogue, but I never thought it was all that powerful. Definitely not better than death rattle hunter. I do feel like Gral the Shark is under rated though. He's never been super flashy, but he's usually just a good card. Something like "5 mana 5/5, deathrattle draw a card." In fact, that might be a good craft for death rattle rogue.

@NanaKwame

Yeah, I just finished watching the video showcasing this deck and Prince Keleseth really brings it one step above. It might need some tweaking without him or rather actually become unplayable, as 12% is a lot and brings it below 50% from your game data.

I could go full pirate without Kingsbane as I opened Captain Hooktusk and spend the dust on a couple Southsea Captain's and a Cannon Barrage. I like the thought of it, but figured crafting a legendary from this expansion would be a better investment. But I'd rather make a full enjoyable deck than craft a legendary which won't have immediate impact, so I guess this could be a better option.

Ah, wish there was just a way to test this without actually having to spend the dust beforehand.

@Ibbinx

I've also been trying something new with Spirit of the Shark in Miracle-ish and Tempo lists and know what you mean. It never quite gets there. That's why I'm considering Zihi, I can see it boosting these lists in theory.

Graal could barely fit in deathrattle, as it needs the spirits to make a significant impact, if it catches just an Egg or a Fire Fly, it's very meh. I don't see it being viable in a generic deathrattle list.