This time it is priest's turn. I want to made a deck to stand against mostly token druids.
Edit: That's what I was talking about. I don't know how to record a video but have a replay to show how this deck is working against Token Druid and against some other decks;
I could test it through rank 5 to 4 for tonight with 10 games. I could play only 10 games for tonight but will play more tomorrow.
The deck acts well against Token Druid. Also I was able to win against tempo rogues + mid-range hunters. Have some kind of problems against control warrior tho, it was so long game and one won with 3 health. Those rush mechs are being problem but well I could win against 1 also.
It was 6-4 for me. I know not so great but I feel like the deck is promising. 2 wins from Tempo Rogues, 1 from midrange hunter, 2 from token druids, 1 from control warrior; and 1 lose from control warrior, 1 from Control Shaman, 1 from some kind of weird warrior deck and last is from tempo rogue.
Also you could tinker something. I don't have all cards to try. For example Convincing Infiltrator. I didn't feel like needing it btw. We are facing so much board flood so random single removal didn't seem well to me.
Also I wanted to try Unseen Saboteur in this deck, but well I didn't have them also and didn't want to craft them for now. I wanted to try them because of Madame Lazul + Chameleos. We can see what our opponent holding with these two cards and it could be best way to waste a value card from opponent's hand. I don't know what card to replace for Unseen Saboteur but if you have in your collection and if you want to try it in this deck, please send your feedbacks here. I want to know how those 3 cards are working together. :)
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Unseen Saboteur is an interesting card. In theory it shuts down decks like token druid who end up using their board buffs inefficiently, but surviving until turn 6 to pull that off is difficult considering the only reason youre not on the back foot now is because their board buffs havent been drawn yet. Even then, you're playing a 5/6 for 6 with no taunt so it doesn't stop the onslaught of minons. The same thing can be said about Baron Geddon and Tunnel Blaster, they are cards that in theory beat token, but in reality are too slow to defend yourself. Additionally, if your main purpose is to increase tempo to deal with early boards, cards like Thoughtsteal and Weaponized Pinata are not effective as they provide little to no tempo at all. Therefore, aside from an amazing Griftah pull, there is no real reason to run Princess Talanji. Chameleos while in theory could be a good card, ends up being an awful topdeck (which you'll be doing a lot of because your deck has only two reliable draws) and too inconsistent despite possibly revealing the opponent's entire hand over the course of 6 turns (which in and of itself is too long to get any sort of value). Also, EVIL Conscripter is just a bad card, token style decks hold no synergy within priest whatsoever. Bronze Gatekeeper is also a bad card in this deck, despite synergy with itself and Zilliax, 1 damage is not enough to contest wide tempo boards; technically, Belligerent Gnome contests those boards very well, but we have yet to see his popular use. I also just noticed that you have no single-target removal which could prove detrimental in a control warrior matchup where you cant deal with massive mechs.
Some recommendations: Here is a control preist deck I built the other day. I opted to use what little dragon synergy there is to create it. You can contest early boards somewhat with tempo minions, and still have some control tools. In the deck description I talk about some ideas I have for a theory craft I am working on, your ideas are greatly appreciated.
I really like the idea to make use of Princess Talanji not just by stealing enemy minions but by using cards like Weaponized pinata as well. Looks like a fun idea, i didnt think of myself yet :D
I`d just might add Power Word: Shield for a little more draw power. I`ll give your list with Unseen Saboteur a try later and see how it performs for me.
I have to say I agree with MmentoMori on basically anything he said. Cards that do random stuff like Weaponized Pinata and Griftah are just not going to make it in a top meta.
Unseen Saboteur is an interesting card. In theory it shuts down decks like token druid who end up using their board buffs inefficiently, but surviving until turn 6 to pull that off is difficult considering the only reason youre not on the back foot now is because their board buffs havent been drawn yet. Even then, you're playing a 5/6 for 6 with no taunt so it doesn't stop the onslaught of minons. The same thing can be said about Baron Geddon and Tunnel Blaster, they are cards that in theory beat token, but in reality are too slow to defend yourself. Additionally, if your main purpose is to increase tempo to deal with early boards, cards like Thoughtsteal and Weaponized Pinata are not effective as they provide little to no tempo at all. Therefore, aside from an amazing Griftah pull, there is no real reason to run Princess Talanji. Chameleos while in theory could be a good card, ends up being an awful topdeck (which you'll be doing a lot of because your deck has only two reliable draws) and too inconsistent despite possibly revealing the opponent's entire hand over the course of 6 turns (which in and of itself is too long to get any sort of value). Also, EVIL Conscripter is just a bad card, token style decks hold no synergy within priest whatsoever. Bronze Gatekeeper is also a bad card in this deck, despite synergy with itself and Zilliax, 1 damage is not enough to contest wide tempo boards; technically, Belligerent Gnome contests those boards very well, but we have yet to see his popular use. I also just noticed that you have no single-target removal which could prove detrimental in a control warrior matchup where you cant deal with massive mechs.
Some recommendations: Here is a control preist deck I built the other day. I opted to use what little dragon synergy there is to create it. You can contest early boards somewhat with tempo minions, and still have some control tools. In the deck description I talk about some ideas I have for a theory craft I am working on, your ideas are greatly appreciated.
Well, You seem like you re saying those in "theory". But I'm saying "no it's working" with my experience.
Firstly for Bronze Gatekeeper. Most of the community are underestimating this card. Don't think this card as a stand alone. If you could magnetize it with Dead Ringer (%90 of times you are able to do that because token druid doesn't like trades) it became 3/6 on turn 3. Which stops him for so long.
Same with weaponized Pinata. Bronze Gatekeeper and Zilliax is here to make it a taunt minion. It's not so hard to do that for same reasons. They don't even trade and it works well too. I've tried them. I've tested them. I'm not saying it in "theory". And i need to add that they are mechs which Warrior can't easily remove from board. great counters against Dyn-o-matic.
You could right about Unseen Saboteur tho because of Token Druid's tempo. it might make us lose so much tempo against the deck. I couldn't try it but just said want to try it. It feels good in theory and it feels better against other decks. (For Brawl for example)
and for Baron Geddon + Tunnel Blaster, They brought some games against token druid for me single-handedly. Baron Geddon is a great card against token druid. It's not in theory aswell. I've tried it and worked super efficient. Token Druid have no tech cards. Not even a single one. They always need to kill Tunnel Blaster and Baron Geddon by hitting with minions.
I couldn't try a Dragon Priest in this expansion tho. It could work aswell.
I couldn't put single target removal to my deck because it wasn't needed for meta's shape for now. I could add some in future if there will be some big threats but I can say that Mass Hysteria works great against giant-sized boards. From Mountain Giants to Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk ones.
And for Griftah. I love the card. You can say anything about it. I've put that because i like not for countering anything but it also works well i presume. You give some shitty cards to the opponent and breaking his tempo. Also gives you 1 more turn against Mecha'thun decks. You can also gain a copy of the card that you gave the opponent with Madame Lazul. Sometimes you re able to mill your opponent while they are holding 9 cards. It adds 1 more card to Princess Talanji's pool. I just love the card. You can replace it with whatever you want i guess.
And EVIL Conscripter, you might right about this card because if you topdeck it, it is mostly a dead card. You need to hold it in your starting hand. Lackeys help with so much ways, I need to say that. Discovering a spell is the best one for priest. Dealing 2 damages also helps a bit for removing treants but as i say above it is becoming useless if they are burried deep in your deck and makes Dead Ringer's draw worse. Best replacement for them are Power Word: Shields if you are up to. :)
Thanks for your comment btw. I found this kind of comments always constructive. I will try a Dragon Priest deck also but I don't think it is a great time to play dragon priest. Maybe next expansion could be the time for that but not now. :)
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yeah true, but in another deck I guess because my deck doesn't have single target removal and it will be so much pain if i bring a Ysera or a Mountain Giant to the board from nowhere. :)
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Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I really like the idea to make use of Princess Talanji not just by stealing enemy minions but by using cards like Weaponized pinata as well. Looks like a fun idea, i didnt think of myself yet :D
I`d just might add Power Word: Shield for a little more draw power. I`ll give your list with Unseen Saboteur a try later and see how it performs for me.
I've thought that to add 2x Power Word: Shields to the deck but well I always try to put 1x Dead Ringer in my hand at start and don't have so much time to use that. Well You can use it in another turn but I couldn't find something to replace. You can try to replace EVIL Conscripter as well but Lackeys help with so much ways, Discovering another boardclear, 1 more removal with 2 damage, upgrading sth and giving rush etc. All lackeys are helpful stuff against token druid but feel free to replace with Power Word: Shield.
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I don't think Token Druid of now is the ultimate build. They will put some tech cards in their decks. I think its a shitty deck which feeds from greedy decks like bomb warrior.
We will see more staple build in time with Spellbreakers or even maybe with Shieldbreakers. I'm working on a Token Druid build also which can be more powerful against some control tools.
This deck is just for today's Token Druid. I will try to adapt next builds. I am saying that This is a shitty deck which tries to counter another shitty deck. :)
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Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players. ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Shadow Madness is mandatory. That card is winning me games in this meta is absolutely glorious, ESPECIALLY vs rogue, even without the inner combo.
Princess Talanji Sound good, never work. Either you're already winning or dead.
Archivist Elysiana Yes it's fun I KNOW but we don't have the luxury to use it, nor is worth it vs bomb warrior in my opinion if you have heals or lack of fast draws. Rather use Seance and steal the warrior one if they have it(They all do because fun card), can be used for other things as well.
Northshire Cleric I just don't know what to do about her, dead weight in many occasion, the stats on her feel pointless we don't kill them fast enough anyways rather have a better curve on hard matchup.
Hello Fellow Hearthpwners !!!
I am here again with another homebrew deck.
This time it is priest's turn. I want to made a deck to stand against mostly token druids.
I could test it through rank 5 to 4 for tonight with 10 games. I could play only 10 games for tonight but will play more tomorrow.
The deck acts well against Token Druid. Also I was able to win against tempo rogues + mid-range hunters. Have some kind of problems against control warrior tho, it was so long game and one won with 3 health. Those rush mechs are being problem but well I could win against 1 also.
It was 6-4 for me. I know not so great but I feel like the deck is promising. 2 wins from Tempo Rogues, 1 from midrange hunter, 2 from token druids, 1 from control warrior; and 1 lose from control warrior, 1 from Control Shaman, 1 from some kind of weird warrior deck and last is from tempo rogue.
Also you could tinker something. I don't have all cards to try. For example Convincing Infiltrator. I didn't feel like needing it btw. We are facing so much board flood so random single removal didn't seem well to me.
Also I wanted to try Unseen Saboteur in this deck, but well I didn't have them also and didn't want to craft them for now.
I wanted to try them because of Madame Lazul + Chameleos. We can see what our opponent holding with these two cards and it could be best way to waste a value card from opponent's hand.
I don't know what card to replace for Unseen Saboteur but if you have in your collection and if you want to try it in this deck, please send your feedbacks here. I want to know how those 3 cards are working together. :)
Anyways; Deck is here with best regards;
I hope you check it and like it and try it and enjoy it, like me !!! :)
Ah, and if you want to suggest something, I'm open to all suggestions; as always.
!!! Cheers !!!
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Unseen Saboteur is an interesting card. In theory it shuts down decks like token druid who end up using their board buffs inefficiently, but surviving until turn 6 to pull that off is difficult considering the only reason youre not on the back foot now is because their board buffs havent been drawn yet. Even then, you're playing a 5/6 for 6 with no taunt so it doesn't stop the onslaught of minons. The same thing can be said about Baron Geddon and Tunnel Blaster, they are cards that in theory beat token, but in reality are too slow to defend yourself. Additionally, if your main purpose is to increase tempo to deal with early boards, cards like Thoughtsteal and Weaponized Pinata are not effective as they provide little to no tempo at all. Therefore, aside from an amazing Griftah pull, there is no real reason to run Princess Talanji. Chameleos while in theory could be a good card, ends up being an awful topdeck (which you'll be doing a lot of because your deck has only two reliable draws) and too inconsistent despite possibly revealing the opponent's entire hand over the course of 6 turns (which in and of itself is too long to get any sort of value). Also, EVIL Conscripter is just a bad card, token style decks hold no synergy within priest whatsoever. Bronze Gatekeeper is also a bad card in this deck, despite synergy with itself and Zilliax, 1 damage is not enough to contest wide tempo boards; technically, Belligerent Gnome contests those boards very well, but we have yet to see his popular use. I also just noticed that you have no single-target removal which could prove detrimental in a control warrior matchup where you cant deal with massive mechs.
Some recommendations: Here is a control preist deck I built the other day. I opted to use what little dragon synergy there is to create it. You can contest early boards somewhat with tempo minions, and still have some control tools. In the deck description I talk about some ideas I have for a theory craft I am working on, your ideas are greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the long post
I really like the idea to make use of Princess Talanji not just by stealing enemy minions but by using cards like Weaponized pinata as well. Looks like a fun idea, i didnt think of myself yet :D
I`d just might add Power Word: Shield for a little more draw power. I`ll give your list with Unseen Saboteur a try later and see how it performs for me.
I have to say I agree with MmentoMori on basically anything he said.
Cards that do random stuff like Weaponized Pinata and Griftah are just not going to make it in a top meta.
Heckle bot is pretty good against token druid.
Hi
Here is my Tanjin version. You don´t try to go for fagitue! You run them down midgame. I would call it a midrange priest.
Brawl is your enemy if preparin for the princess so lure it out ^^.
Well, You seem like you re saying those in "theory". But I'm saying "no it's working" with my experience.
Firstly for Bronze Gatekeeper. Most of the community are underestimating this card. Don't think this card as a stand alone. If you could magnetize it with Dead Ringer (%90 of times you are able to do that because token druid doesn't like trades) it became 3/6 on turn 3. Which stops him for so long.
Same with weaponized Pinata. Bronze Gatekeeper and Zilliax is here to make it a taunt minion. It's not so hard to do that for same reasons. They don't even trade and it works well too. I've tried them. I've tested them. I'm not saying it in "theory".
And i need to add that they are mechs which Warrior can't easily remove from board. great counters against Dyn-o-matic.
You could right about Unseen Saboteur tho because of Token Druid's tempo. it might make us lose so much tempo against the deck. I couldn't try it but just said want to try it. It feels good in theory and it feels better against other decks. (For Brawl for example)
and for Baron Geddon + Tunnel Blaster, They brought some games against token druid for me single-handedly. Baron Geddon is a great card against token druid. It's not in theory aswell. I've tried it and worked super efficient. Token Druid have no tech cards. Not even a single one. They always need to kill Tunnel Blaster and Baron Geddon by hitting with minions.
I couldn't try a Dragon Priest in this expansion tho. It could work aswell.
I couldn't put single target removal to my deck because it wasn't needed for meta's shape for now. I could add some in future if there will be some big threats but I can say that Mass Hysteria works great against giant-sized boards. From Mountain Giants to Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk ones.
And for Griftah. I love the card. You can say anything about it. I've put that because i like not for countering anything but it also works well i presume. You give some shitty cards to the opponent and breaking his tempo. Also gives you 1 more turn against Mecha'thun decks. You can also gain a copy of the card that you gave the opponent with Madame Lazul. Sometimes you re able to mill your opponent while they are holding 9 cards. It adds 1 more card to Princess Talanji's pool. I just love the card. You can replace it with whatever you want i guess.
And EVIL Conscripter, you might right about this card because if you topdeck it, it is mostly a dead card. You need to hold it in your starting hand. Lackeys help with so much ways, I need to say that. Discovering a spell is the best one for priest. Dealing 2 damages also helps a bit for removing treants but as i say above it is becoming useless if they are burried deep in your deck and makes Dead Ringer's draw worse. Best replacement for them are Power Word: Shields if you are up to. :)
Thanks for your comment btw. I found this kind of comments always constructive. I will try a Dragon Priest deck also but I don't think it is a great time to play dragon priest. Maybe next expansion could be the time for that but not now. :)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
yeah true, but in another deck I guess because my deck doesn't have single target removal and it will be so much pain if i bring a Ysera or a Mountain Giant to the board from nowhere. :)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I've thought that to add 2x Power Word: Shields to the deck but well I always try to put 1x Dead Ringer in my hand at start and don't have so much time to use that. Well You can use it in another turn but I couldn't find something to replace. You can try to replace EVIL Conscripter as well but Lackeys help with so much ways, Discovering another boardclear, 1 more removal with 2 damage, upgrading sth and giving rush etc. All lackeys are helpful stuff against token druid but feel free to replace with Power Word: Shield.
:)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
I want to point something too;
I don't think Token Druid of now is the ultimate build. They will put some tech cards in their decks. I think its a shitty deck which feeds from greedy decks like bomb warrior.
We will see more staple build in time with Spellbreakers or even maybe with Shieldbreakers. I'm working on a Token Druid build also which can be more powerful against some control tools.
This deck is just for today's Token Druid. I will try to adapt next builds. I am saying that This is a shitty deck which tries to counter another shitty deck. :)
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
That's what I was talking about. I don't know how to record a video but have a replay to show how this deck is working against Token Druid;
Here you can check this;
https://hsreplay.net/replay/LbH4VXZTQwYFYezZ3GiVWY
And this one was against some kind of greedy Khadgar Dragon Mage;
https://hsreplay.net/replay/cTyBGBfrEhkG97EmS45pbX
And this one was against a control warrior with boomship + Grommash package;
https://hsreplay.net/replay/7o9PKQDcJAgfyhHmrGQJQK
And this one was against some kind of Plot Twist Warlock I guess; She Dropped Arch-Villain Rafaam so early so can't really say;
https://hsreplay.net/replay/qq4wh6dmppJXi5LJ6kZcfB
Memedeck-seeker. Always tries to build new decks. Hates tournements, streamers, netdecks and poor-o players.
ah, but a tournement mode could be great !!!
Here's some suggestion for the meta.
Shadow Madness is mandatory. That card is winning me games in this meta is absolutely glorious, ESPECIALLY vs rogue, even without the inner combo.
Princess Talanji Sound good, never work. Either you're already winning or dead.
Archivist Elysiana Yes it's fun I KNOW but we don't have the luxury to use it, nor is worth it vs bomb warrior in my opinion if you have heals or lack of fast draws. Rather use Seance and steal the warrior one if they have it(They all do because fun card), can be used for other things as well.
Northshire Cleric I just don't know what to do about her, dead weight in many occasion, the stats on her feel pointless we don't kill them fast enough anyways rather have a better curve on hard matchup.