The only way to revive HS is to reduce the cost of the game, there is no other way. When price drops you will get new players, new decks, new meta more content creators and Twitch activity.
The main reason that Battlegrounds is popular among streamers is that its almost free to play, HS is way to expensive, they have to monetize on cosmetics and less on cards collection.
This has honestly been a trend for many years, and it started even long before the change of ownership.
I have done some pretty serious attempts at making activity here, but demanding nerfs and complaining about decks, cards, the whole meta or whatever else just seems to be what make people read threads and post.
One very big problem might be that forum websites could be a format of the past. I am not entirely sure, but I feel a lot of the more interresting discussions about the game now take place on Reddit, Twitter, Discord or in YouTube videos.
Those 'interesting' discussions elsewhere are very interesting in the sense that Blizzard doesn't do anything with them and keep printing cards for which I really understand the 'complains' here. Besides complaining is everywhere on the net, if Apple, Microsoft and other big companies had so many complains about their products as Blizzards Hearthstone has, it would be a legendary problem with the CEO do the explaining fearing his position.
Not so with HS. The problem lies with the contempt for its customers, the divide and rule strategy and the fundamental partizan card design. I see a direct relationship between the current devs and the 'complains'. There is need for an audit on card design in terms of balance that triggers a sense of justice and fairness. You can't just go around printing cards that are blatantly unbalanced and wonder why the community is that bitter. People will complain less if the sense that they lost due to their own stupidity, rather that they are confronted with idiotic card design for which conceding is the best option.
I'm convinced Blizzard wants people to complain. Better bad talk than no talk at all. It stimulates antagonism. Yes its less on Reddit but that doesn't take away the fundamental problems.
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You made me wonder, how old are forum User on avarage?
Lately I just thought it's incredible how online communication changed. Back in the days of vanilla counterstrike we had community Servers. Ppl gathered in a shooter to talk, in a friendly way, while slaying each other.
This is nowhere to find nowadays, if anyone uses chat functions in fast action games, it's most of the time to complain or insult.
Even the concept of private Servers (open for public) is mostly gone.
Besides complaining is everywhere on the net, if Apple, Microsoft and other big companies had so many complains about their products as Blizzards Hearthstone has, it would be a legendary problem with the CEO do the explaining fearing his position.
Wow, people sure does not complain that much about Apple and Microsoft as they do about Hearthstone, at least not in this dimension. In the plane of existence I am coming from, it is the other way around, I assure you.
I'm convinced Blizzard wants people to complain. Better bad talk than no talk at all. It stimulates antagonism. Yes its less on Reddit but that doesn't take away the fundamental problems.
The opposite of love is indifference, so yes. I could not care less about balance or metagame of games I haven't tried or stopped playing long ago.
However, you have to be extremely clever to make the game bad on purpose to make people complain, but not so bad they stop playing all together. I don't think think you should give them that much credit.
Someone posts about the fansite Hearthpwn.com, and half the comments are about Hearthstone the game.
Could the problem be that no one actually reads anything and just posts random irrelevant opinions instead of having a conversation?
That's probably half of it. The other half is people's interests. People want to complain. They want to share their frustrations and argue about things. It's way more attractive than asking to share your good feelings or constructive feedback. That's why the salt thread has a billion posts and the pepper thread barely sees any use.
Is this a problem with the human psyche? Was it better before and online culture has changed people? I really don't know for sure.
I've tried to create threads sharing good feelings and asking for people to comment with their thoughts, but they will never get as much attention as a thread titled "HS SUCKS AND THIS IS WHY".
It's just... true. Unfortunately.
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Hearthstone can't be new forever.
3+ years ago, in a rural town I saw a billboard for a Hearthstone gathering.
And the faces aren't new either, it is always Kripp, Regis, Kibler, Thijs, ...
The only way to revive HS is to reduce the cost of the game, there is no other way.
When price drops you will get new players, new decks, new meta more content creators and Twitch activity.
The main reason that Battlegrounds is popular among streamers is that its almost free to play,
HS is way to expensive, they have to monetize on cosmetics and less on cards collection.
Those 'interesting' discussions elsewhere are very interesting in the sense that Blizzard doesn't do anything with them and keep printing cards for which I really understand the 'complains' here. Besides complaining is everywhere on the net, if Apple, Microsoft and other big companies had so many complains about their products as Blizzards Hearthstone has, it would be a legendary problem with the CEO do the explaining fearing his position.
Not so with HS. The problem lies with the contempt for its customers, the divide and rule strategy and the fundamental partizan card design. I see a direct relationship between the current devs and the 'complains'. There is need for an audit on card design in terms of balance that triggers a sense of justice and fairness. You can't just go around printing cards that are blatantly unbalanced and wonder why the community is that bitter. People will complain less if the sense that they lost due to their own stupidity, rather that they are confronted with idiotic card design for which conceding is the best option.
I'm convinced Blizzard wants people to complain. Better bad talk than no talk at all. It stimulates antagonism. Yes its less on Reddit but that doesn't take away the fundamental problems.
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.
You made me wonder, how old are forum User on avarage?
Lately I just thought it's incredible how online communication changed. Back in the days of vanilla counterstrike we had community Servers. Ppl gathered in a shooter to talk, in a friendly way, while slaying each other.
This is nowhere to find nowadays, if anyone uses chat functions in fast action games, it's most of the time to complain or insult.
Even the concept of private Servers (open for public) is mostly gone.
Things change, maybe it's us who need to adopt?
Wow, people sure does not complain that much about Apple and Microsoft as they do about Hearthstone, at least not in this dimension.
In the plane of existence I am coming from, it is the other way around, I assure you.
(hops into TARDIS, and files away...)
The opposite of love is indifference, so yes. I could not care less about balance or metagame of games I haven't tried or stopped playing long ago.
However, you have to be extremely clever to make the game bad on purpose to make people complain, but not so bad they stop playing all together. I don't think think you should give them that much credit.
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Banish Priests - that would help. I insta quit the second I queue into them. If I see more than two in a day I just stop playing for the day
Someone posts about the fansite Hearthpwn.com, and half the comments are about Hearthstone the game.
Could the problem be that no one actually reads anything and just posts random irrelevant opinions instead of having a conversation?
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
That's probably half of it. The other half is people's interests. People want to complain. They want to share their frustrations and argue about things. It's way more attractive than asking to share your good feelings or constructive feedback. That's why the salt thread has a billion posts and the pepper thread barely sees any use.
Is this a problem with the human psyche? Was it better before and online culture has changed people? I really don't know for sure.
I've tried to create threads sharing good feelings and asking for people to comment with their thoughts, but they will never get as much attention as a thread titled "HS SUCKS AND THIS IS WHY".
It's just... true. Unfortunately.