All the time a bot registers and opens 1000 threads.. Just add a 5 minute timer from oppening threads if this is a problem for the users make it so it unpocks after a week a user is registered simple solutiion to annoying problem!
Actually it's usually very good. You wouldn't believe the amount of spam we get that none of you ever see. Not sure what happened to it tonight though. Sometimes site updates break stuff. I'm sure we'll figure it out.
It's not the mods removing it in mins for the most part, it's the filter.
the filter IS one of the best around. However you will see the spam for up to 2 mins before it will pick it up.
It handles thousands of posts a day that no one sees. Also rate limiting does not work ( along with most solutions people suggest) they just make hundreds of accounts to post intead
Make it so they can't make new threads? They will just make posts instead
Captchas don't work in this age.
weve been at this for years, we know what works and dosnt. Sadly hearthpwn is hit harder than most sites out there due to its size and Seo. We have some new ideas in the pipeline soon, but simple things that people think will work just don't really. If it was that easy, there would be no spam!
We know it sucks tho. Nothing is worse than waking up in the morning and seeing loads of reports or spam.
A question then: Do you prefer if we report them? (the spams, I mean)
I always wonder: If three people report one spam does that make it worse?
Making reports definitely helps, not just for spam but in general. Mods can't be everywhere at once. However reporting every individual post one spammer makes is not really necessary (some people do), but not a problem either.
But believe me when i say, the amount of spam you see on the site is nowhere near the amount of spam there actually is. Like Molster has said the majority is actually automatically removed by the spam system but that does sometimes take a few minutes, the rest is removed by mods and staff.
And trust me, we are annoyed by it just as much as you are, probably more because we have to deal with it every day and keep seeing the spam even after it's been removed.
There's always improvements that can be made but that logic goes for spammers as well, when one thing stops working they try a different thing. There isn't a perfect anti-spam system in the world unfortunately.
A question then: Do you prefer if we report them? (the spams, I mean)
I always wonder: If three people report one spam does that make it worse?
Reporting helps, yes. It doesn't matter if 3 people report the same spam, it still only generates one report.
However, because the spam filter sometimes take a couple of minutes to catch threads, there's not much point in reporting a spam thread that's less than a couple of minutes old. Wait a few minutes, hit F5, and if it's still there, go ahead and report it.
And as jmxd said, there's no point reporting more than one thread from the same spammer. When we spam-ban an account, it automatically deletes every post made by that account. So you only need to report one thread per spammer account.
It's not the mods removing it in mins for the most part, it's the filter.
the filter IS one of the best around. However you will see the spam for up to 2 mins before it will pick it up.
It handles thousands of posts a day that no one sees. Also rate limiting does not work ( along with most solutions people suggest) they just make hundreds of accounts to post intead
Make it so they can't make new threads? They will just make posts instead
Captchas don't work in this age.
weve been at this for years, we know what works and dosnt. Sadly hearthpwn is hit harder than most sites out there due to its size and Seo. We have some new ideas in the pipeline soon, but simple things that people think will work just don't really. If it was that easy, there would be no spam!
We know it sucks tho. Nothing is worse than waking up in the morning and seeing loads of reports or spam.
I wonder how you figure that captcha's don't work. I run boards on jcink (because I'm an RPer) and the captcha is likely the only thing stopping the hundreds of spambots I see on the site daily from registering and spamming. They also stop them from posting in our guest friendly areas. If they didn't work, we'd be overrun by spam, like the jcink sites that don't activate the captcha.
Why not just introduce a human-verification check for the registration process? :X
This increases the barrier of entry which isn't something we're keen on doing.
I'd also like to note once again that we're not dealing with bots here, but humans. So although some bots may be thwarted by captchas (not all are), humans can still read them which means you're just going to see spam anyway. This also ends up pissing off new users to the site, thus increasing the barrier of entry.
What exactly are these spam threads attempting to do? I can't imagine they are fooling that many people with stuff like "black magic love hotline"
Is it purely to mess with the site and troll, or are they trying to link you to something to infect your computer? I've went on a few just to see and nearly all of them have reddit links.
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What exactly are these spam threads attempting to do? I can't imagine they are fooling that many people with stuff like "black magic love hotline"
Is it purely to mess with the site and troll, or are they trying to link you to something to infect your computer? I've went on a few just to see and nearly all of them have reddit links.
They're trying to sell products and services or trying to get themselves listed higher in google searches due to the popularity of HearthPwn. Just a bunch of scammers trying to make ends meet using the internet.
The spam filter sometimes isn't perfect, but it does learn over time from our actions
This increases the barrier of entry which isn't something we're keen on doing.
I'd also like to note once again that we're not dealing with bots here, but humans. So although some bots may be thwarted by captchas (not all are), humans can still read them which means you're just going to see spam anyway. This also ends up pissing off new users to the site, thus increasing the barrier of entry.
It's only once for a lifetime member ship. I don't see how anyone goes from "I'm going to register" to "not doing it, they have a verification". That's like saying people are turned off because they need a email. I don't mean those crappy captchers no one is able to read, but simple stuff like "what is this color?" with a picture of a color or basic math stuff or something. There is really no downside to it (other than the initial implementation, which should be far less resource-costing than having to deal with the increasing amount of spam bots).
Alternatively, a 60 sec post timer between posts if you have less than XX posts or something.
Have you guys considered adding some mods in EU and Asia time zones? I'm on Tokyo time zone and I see huge amounts of spam quite often during the day, when the US mods are sleeping.
Have you guys considered adding some mods in EU and Asia time zones? I'm on Tokyo time zone and I see huge amounts of spam quite often during the day, when the US mods are sleeping.
There's mods from all time zones already, i'm from EU myself.
Don't tell me you have the spam problem under control when you don't.
As step 1, please filter for the phone number of that love black magic guy. He always has it in the post title. Should be very easy to block without false positives.
ok i'm to lazy to make a screenshot now, but literally the first 13 pages in the latest threads are spam! plz guys do something, i know you want to make it easy to join the forum but this is getting ridiculous now
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All the time a bot registers and opens 1000 threads.. Just add a 5 minute timer from oppening threads if this is a problem for the users make it so it unpocks after a week a user is registered simple solutiion to annoying problem!
Obviously it's not that good.
Actually it's usually very good. You wouldn't believe the amount of spam we get that none of you ever see. Not sure what happened to it tonight though. Sometimes site updates break stuff. I'm sure we'll figure it out.
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It's not the mods removing it in mins for the most part, it's the filter.
the filter IS one of the best around. However you will see the spam for up to 2 mins before it will pick it up.
It handles thousands of posts a day that no one sees. Also rate limiting does not work ( along with most solutions people suggest) they just make hundreds of accounts to post intead
Make it so they can't make new threads? They will just make posts instead
Captchas don't work in this age.
weve been at this for years, we know what works and dosnt. Sadly hearthpwn is hit harder than most sites out there due to its size and Seo. We have some new ideas in the pipeline soon, but simple things that people think will work just don't really. If it was that easy, there would be no spam!
We know it sucks tho. Nothing is worse than waking up in the morning and seeing loads of reports or spam.
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They don't spam other threads ( thanksfully) so limiting the amount of thread oppening wouldn't stop the thread spam?
Why not just introduce a human-verification check for the registration process? :X
nothing sweeter then 2 pages of Tantrik Astrologer =)
i would really prefer captchas or such at the registration
Basing on my observation and screenshot posted by @DFBwin, these threads are still able to stay untouched for more than 2 mins.
What exactly are these spam threads attempting to do? I can't imagine they are fooling that many people with stuff like "black magic love hotline"
Is it purely to mess with the site and troll, or are they trying to link you to something to infect your computer? I've went on a few just to see and nearly all of them have reddit links.
I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
Have you guys considered adding some mods in EU and Asia time zones? I'm on Tokyo time zone and I see huge amounts of spam quite often during the day, when the US mods are sleeping.
I'm sure you have US and EU covered, but you still need Asia / Australia, especially since we're awake when the Indian spammers are working.
Right now, the first 2 pages of General are completely blocked with spam, and this thread http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/111515-illumaneau-skin-cream-blood-glucose-there-is has even bern up for 4 hours.
Don't tell me you have the spam problem under control when you don't.
As step 1, please filter for the phone number of that love black magic guy. He always has it in the post title. Should be very easy to block without false positives.
ok i'm to lazy to make a screenshot now, but literally the first 13 pages in the latest threads are spam! plz guys do something, i know you want to make it easy to join the forum but this is getting ridiculous now