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To each his own. I dislike in hearthstone's style direction.
I don't need Hearthstone to mimic WoW, taking elements of it yes, mimic no...
My problem is the style. War of the spark trailer gives me emotions, creates immersion, Hearthstone looks more and more like a children cartoon, shallow children cartoon (there are plently children cartoons that have deep themes that adults can enjoy).
Well the strongest point of magic against hs after the depth of gameplay, is the rich lore though...The story is amazing and the way it is told (card by card and enriched by books) is freaking brilliant!
But honestly, the fact that you are right makes me sad...Wow had such great story that had captivated millions of players (myself included) and for years now, has become a joke of its former self, to the point where hs does a service to itself for not following it...Damm sometimes even i forget how much i loved old brizzard...
Man war of the spark cannot come fast enough... to me the ros has been a uber fail and i was so optimistic about it.
By the way the war of the spark trailer had 11.000.000 views while hs ros has only 300.000 and was launched two weeks earlier.
Not claiming that magic arena is bigger than hs, but surely is the biggest competitor it ever had, and if the trend continues, it will certainly surpass it (in the pc playerbase).
Surpass HS? I doubt. About the trailer numbers: You cant compare it. As far as I understand, War of the Sparkles is a MTG (physical) expansion (and ofc will be released to MTGA too?), therefore ofcourse the trailer has a higher viewercount. But not all MTG players do play MTGA, or?
I play HS and MTGA, both since the closed Beta. I do enjoy both concepts, but I will not put any money into MTGA. I dislike the gem system of MTGA a lot, it looks kinda like a scam to me, trying to hide the real costs, for example 1600 Gems for 9,99€, 6 Packs for 1200 Gems, .. It is still easy math, but to me it still appears that they try to cover the real costs. Anyways.
MTGA is a lot of fun, but it also suffers from similar problems which occur in Hearthstone, like hyperaggro in casual mode (Monored in playmode). Which makes it hard to play fun decks. I use monored to grind my daily 15 wins and I often win before turn 6 actually.
I am sure MTGA will grow but probably not higher than HS. MTGA will be limited to PC only, I cant imagine playing MTGA on mobile.
The biggest advantage HS has imo is the art and sound. Hearthstone artwork and sounds are unique. Probably it is just my taste, but MTGA artworks just looks like some average medieval art about monsters, swords, knights, .. bleh.
Hearthstone lives from iconic characters from the WoW lore, the cards kinda have a soul, for example Loot Hoarder. 2 Mana 2/1, fitting with the image of a greedy little gnome. "Mind if I roll need?". The sound of the cards are really unique.
MY JAWS THAT BITE.
HOW LONG CAN THIS GO ON?
Gorge your hatred, embrace your rage.
Cthun! Cthun! Cthuuuuuun!
PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT!
Tbh I play so much MTGA lately but I cant remember any sounds beside the sound of that black wizard planeswalker.
The things that will always put Hearthstone above all other online card games I've seen is the watchability. No other card games comes close to being as entertaining as Hearthstone as a spectator and eventhough that is outside the scope of playing the game I feel that it's till a part of the experience. While not being in games myself I like to watch Twitch or youtube for interesting decks or cool plays and that adds to the whole enjoyment of the meta, the players and the game itself.
I believe this is part of the reason why Artifact has failed so. Having not played that game I found it completely unwatchable so I never had any urge to try it.
HS wins because i can play ot everywhere . I only play it on my phone so i think its better for only that fact . Peace !!!
Heartstone for me
About the views, mtg (paper before arena) trailer had about 300.000 views in total, after arena they went about 800.000 with this latest trailer brakeing all records.So it is safe to assume, especially if you read the comments, that at least half of them are thanks to the game.
As for the shop, yeah you are absolutely right, it is scammy. Someone had done the math and found out that the price of a pack varies from 1.6 € to 1.1 € depending on the offer.Which is stiill much cheaper than hs but still.Not being transparent with the cost is douchy.
You are also right about the fluff. While the flavour text of magic puts the hs to trash bin,the sounds and animations of hs are way better.Presentation has been always hs' strong point.
As for the aggro meta, well its the only thing that trash players can use in magic.In mythic rank i hate esper much much MUCH more...
Overall the biggest advantage magic has over the previous hs competitors, is the spectability. It is pleasing and fun to watch.For example, hs on average has 30000 to 20000 views on twitch while the magic arena has about 15000 to 10000 on average. Considering how old hs is and the big names that continue to support it, is quite an achievement for magic to stay relevant.
Youre not a trash player when you use monored aggro in MTGA. First of all it is very very cheap. Other decks like esper control are expensive as fuck, even monoblue tempo is pretty expensive.
And for the pack prices: yes it is cheaper per pack and you get more cards BUT it is still way more expensive than HS. In HS you only need 2 copies per card and one for legendaries, while in MTGA you run 4 copies and a 40 card deck (plus lands). In HS you can easily craft the cards you need.
MTGA is way way more expensive than HS. It's not just the pack prices, it's the wildcard system which doesn't allow you to trade in your unwanted cards for different ones, the complete lack of duplicate protection meaning you can open 5, 6, 100 copies of a card without any way to dust them. And don't mention the Vault which is such crap value it might as well not exist. That's before you consider that you need 4 of each card whereas in HS you need 2 or 1 for a Legendary. The drafts are more expensive than Arena. And now they're charging for cardbacks. It's a joke. How people defend it is beyond me.
Arena isn't set up for viewing either, the viewing priority is on one player because the board has this weird 3D slant to it whereas in HS the board is flat. It's not fun to watch 100 tokens blocking each other and it's not fun to watch someone counter everything either.
And I get Magic. I play Magic. I spent a fair bit on my paper Arclight deck. But Arena is the worst.
And enough with pretending that counter spells and blocking make it super highbrow complex gaming. Sure, Magic seems more complex on the surface but it plays at a completely different pace to HS, the complexity in HS comes from having to play around your opponent's potential plays, not just herp derp me have counter spell in hand. I like Magic a lot but HS is the better digital game by a country mile.
There is duplicate protection for mythic and rare cards. You will not get a fifth copy of them any more by opening a pack.
And playing around doesn't mean only counterspells. In fact, you need to play around counterspells as well. And being able to react on the opponents turn and having to account for it makes the game deeper. HS is and wants to be a simple game on the base level, hence its success with casual players.
It seems to me that you tried MTG Arena and found it isn't something for you and now pretend to know how the game works. It's fine that you think HS is better. I also think that HS is a really good game and deserves the success it has. But you reasoning is a mere opinion.
Indeed you are not trash if you play mono red, but if you are trash, then mono red and white weenies are the only decks you can play.
No, it's not. In magic you can earn 1.5 packs per day with only 4 wins and you can push to 2 packs worth of stuff if you push it to 15 wins. And this is the lowest you can get. If you are good with draft or contructed modes then sky is the limit. I have played magic only for 4 months and invested only 7$ in it (welcome bundle) and i have all meta decks. From esper which i hate, to sultai and grixis.
In hs, for comparison, it took me 4 months to craft my first desirable deck (demon handlock) and it was a budget version(no mountain giants). Even if you are god in arena, the rewards for the time and risk are not worth it. I mean you can go indefinately in arena in hs too, but you will do that because you like playing the mode, if you want just to farm and play costructed, then it's not the best choice. And this comes from an arena farmer. Overall magic arena has many flaws, but its economy is leaps and bounds better than hs', especially after the no dublicate update.
I would presume to know anything about me when you don't. Everything on here is opinion, including your comment. I already regret my post because this blind Magic fandom was bound to follow. FYI, I play Magic, I'm not pretending to know anything. In any case, think what you want, enjoy Arena if that's your bag, it's not mine.
1,5 Packs per day only if you get 750 gold quest imo. In Hearthstone you can grind 1 Pack daily or 1 Arena run (if you take daily quest into account). The payoff in drafting imo isnt worth it to try to go infinite
I felt the need to respond because you made several statements which are incorrect. Therefore I assumed you do not really know what you are talking about. The 5th copy issue doesn't concern the most expensive cards any more (which you implied it does) and playing around in MTGA is not "just herp derp me have counter spell in hand". In Magic you have to play around everything like you do in hearthstone + instants (which you do not have in hearthstone).
And no, I am not a Magic fanboy. I like the game a lot, but I also like Hearthstone and presently play both about equally much. I just try not to be biased in my analysis.
Edit: I also didn’t assume to know anything about you. I told you what impression your post made on me. That’s why I wrote “it seems to me”.
Spreads bs, gets refuted by simple facts and then accuses the rest of us for being blind fandom...in a site about hs...ok dude...
As Horkiger said, you could say that you enjoy hs and dislike magic. We would be cool. This is what the thread is about afterall. But you spreaded missinformation and got salty when someone corrected you. We indeed know nothing about you, but with your attitude, we don't want to learn either.
Do you guys know any sites like Hearthpwn for MTGA? Not just deck listings but also forums and a community.
Do you guys know any sites like Hearthpwn for MTGA? Not just deck listings but also forums and a community.
MTG Goldfiah is the closest I’ve found
I like MTG more due to the lack of RNG. I just hate that it’s not Mac supported right now.
Unfortunatelly, there is no site as cool and memerich as hearthpwn for mtga :(
At least not yet.