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Artifact is still cheaper than HS. Of course you can be full F2P in HS but not everybode has time for that.
I don't think this is ever going to happen cuz so many already paid so much for the game so it wouldn't be fair. A company doing that would look really bad. The game died the moment they announced it Pay 2 play.
artifact is just ugly
Any f2p player who is actually f2p has time for that and still if you wanted to invest some money i don't think it would be as expensive as Artifact. In fact Artifact doesn't even have ingame currency it's completely a game based on your wallet so it really won't be cheaper than HS trying keeping up with every expansion. Valve is made to suck money out of your pocket and that greed made Artifact Doa.
You can call Valve greedy as much as you want, but Artifact IS cheaper than HS if you only get your cards with money. And I'll repeat again, not everybody has time to be F2P in Hearthstone, there are people who pay money for the preorders and packs in HS, and I'm pretty sure that I can get more from $20 I spent buying Artifact than from spending $20 buying packs in Hearthstone.
Well i dont think its cheaper but thats my opinion. Opinions are like assholes everyone has one :) Time will tell about everything for both games anyway so no need to keep arguing anymore.
What is going to happen next is that the single card market will collapse within the next few weeks or so. What I mean by that is that there will be an influx of cards on the market but it will be impossible to sell your stuff. Why? Because constructed is dead. There is 0 incentive for anyone to play constructed instead of draft.
Back to the Hearthstone Mines!
Well the only thing is: Starting positions are more RNG luck/bad luck than anything.
Other than that I agree!
People can literally buy the best cards in the game -> not pay to win
The Artifact community is pure cancer, it's been awhile since i've seen such a cancerous community in an online game.
Stolen Steel
Still doesn't change the fact that you can buy the best decks in the game.
You do understand that Artifact will have new sets, right? Classic only Hearthstone was way cheaper than modern Hearthstone.
Also, HS may be more expensive to buy all cards outright, sure. But les's assume you bought all cards and then new expansion comes.
1) In Hearthstone you can buy all new cards of the new expansion cheaper because you can part of packs with gold you earned by playing even if you are nowhere close to F2P (and well, barring good Arena players no F2P player can buy out all cards of the expansion by saving gold for 4 months)
2) In Artifact you need to pay a full price every time
Also.
1) In Hearthstone conversion ratio of old cards to new cards is always the same.
2) In Artifact conversion rate will become worse because prices for cards will go down (on average, some will go up because of new synergies\metas) Why prices for individual cards will go down? Think about how many of classic-era Hearthstone staples see play in modern meta decks. Same thing will happen to the original Artifact cards
" Artifact is still cheaper than HS" Oh plz people you can tell me that Artifact offers you a best investment if you want i will not said you are wrong for that kind of opinion. But "cheaper" when you waste 1 ticket per constructed competitive/ranked and draft play + The deck (more like Decks because you will not play one deck forever even before new cards come).
That plus what Strongpoint said means that you can invest per expansion more or less 200 to 300$ (assuming that every 3/4 months you get new cards). In HS each expansion you pay 150 to 200$ each expansion. In both cases you can said "oh well i dont care about the new cards" or "i just need this card and this card so i dust some cards (HS) or i sell some of this cards (Art) so i can get the cards i need" BUT in Artifact you still need to pay to play some modes...so yeah unless you are playing a lot getting cards with free tickets, selling cards to get more tickets...blablabla you still need to pay a lot of money in little portions.
Artifact is a game made by an old man who thinks just because Magic The Gathering got enough players long ago to keep going that any old economy will work regardless of player cost. Hearthstone and other freemium CCG games exist because any player with common sense rejects those kinds of business models now.
Actually, I am considering to buy Artifact just for phantom drafts. I mean buy it, open packs, spend tickets, get some money back keep free part of Artifact in my steam account. On other hand I do have better uses for my steam money and Christmas sale is a thing.
Starting cost of the game: Artifact 20 Hearthstone 0
Cost of packs: Artifact 2 Hearthstone 1.5
Does playing competetively cost money: Artifact yes Hearthstone no
Collection progress while playing the game for free: Artifact no Hearthstone yes
Whichever angle you take to compare both games, hearthstone is cheaper. That is a simple fact. The only reason to play artifact over hearthstone is if someone thinks it is a better game. And that is a good reason, but a subjective one. Saying Hearhtstone is more expensive than artifact is presently plain wrong (and likely in the future as well).
And Artifact will not and cannot let you get cards for free since you can convert them into semi-real currency. It's just their take on a CCG economy.
I bought the game, and it truly is fun and complex, but then i wanted to make a constructed Mono Blue deck, so i went to buy each individual card that i was missing, and the price ended up being like 50$ overall. Yeah, that's not happening ever.
Release the Kraken!
Not to offend Artifact or its fans/players. But how the actual fuck are you going to pay another $20 to pay for hero cards. I mean $20 for the game itself is fine but charging another for a hero? C'mon this is some Apple shit right here(no offense Apple users). It's like buying a phone without a charger.
For the umpteenth time only one card in the game costs $20 right now, and that price will go down. All the prices will go down as demand for cards goes down due to people getting them in packs.
If you don't buy any packs and just straight up buy every card you need to complete your collection from the market it will currently cost you about $300. For every single card currently in the game.
Let's compare that to Hearthstone. $70 for 67 prepurchase packs. Say you saved up 5000 gold from quests and arena over the course of Boomsday. That's another 50 packs. So 117. That'll get you about 6 legendaries, including the gifted one, and most of the rares. You've still got a long way to go if you want to get all the legendaries. Still got 17 legendaries to go. Let's be very generous and say you get one in every 25 packs. You've gotta open 425 packs. But let's say 375 and you're able to craft the last two and extra epics from all the dust from so many packs.
All that's gonna cost you an extra $400, for a total of $470 to get the whole expansion. Even if you chop a third off of that it's about the same as Artifact's $300 for every card in an expansion. If you're talking about completing a set Hearthstone is expensive (even more so if you're grinding for gold, spending time instead of money) and you're just plain wrong if you think it's more expensive to do it in Artifact.