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ESO is a good MMORPG, but they are a few years too late with that one (hype for mmorpgs is really gone)

I don't think Bethesda and Direwolf will fuck up this amazing game. It feels as RPG universe way better than Hearthstone does. You feel more progression/rewarded as leveling up enhances your basic set and give you some good cards. Their mechanics are quite good and the lack of half of the gameplay being in the hands of RNGesus is great. There are somethings to be worked and balanced (Soulrest Marshal is kinda OP right now), but they are gathering feedback on their forum and balancing the game so far. I just wish for more card draw in some atributtes. And some stats rebalancing (some cards few underwhelmingly week due to their stats, even with a good Summon effect)

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Why even speak about this game here? Is'nt there a place called Scrowpwn or something?

I am actually surprised Bethesda, which last games were utterly mediocre (not bad, just mediocre), made a good CCG. Definitely more fun than Hearthstone. Since I play HS for long time and established a solid card collection, I won't leave it completely, but surely will dedicate more time to ESL. Karazhan seems very disappointing, and doubt it will make game more fun, while ESL seems fresh and much more skill-based.

I fear it might go the way of MMDoC. Before playing HS, I've used to play ubisoft's CCG for several years, which imo was way superior to HS, but died due to shitty management (they literally broke and buried it) and lack of advertisement. I don't know if Bethesda has smarter marketing than Ubisoft. Hopefully. For some reason good MMOs die too often while mediocre ones stay alive for a decade.

Dev livestream tomorrow. 

Enjoy a #TESLegends livestream tomorrow with @DCDeacon starting at 3pm ET on https://www.twitch.tv/bethesda

Which names?

Because the cards are based on TES universe. 

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Which names?

Because the cards are based on TES universe. 

 Execute, fireball those are the only ones I remember, I played the game only for about an hour. Also they share a key word or two as well. Thou to be fair how else are you going to name the charge mechanic.

Guess it shouldn't be an issue. 

One who plays card games probably will get used to it. :) 

Execute and Fireball. What a wonderful example. Kappa
Seriously - Fireball is a term widely used in fantasy, and besides how would you name a ball of fire in different way ? And Execute is just a word for finishing off smb, no ?

And as for your previous post - no one will see it as a copy if they have a brain and ability to compare, cause it's not even close to being one

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I am actually surprised Bethesda, which last games were utterly mediocre (not bad, just mediocre), made a good CCG. Definitely more fun than Hearthstone. Since I play HS for long time and established a solid card collection, I won't leave it completely, but surely will dedicate more time to ESL. Karazhan seems very disappointing, and doubt it will make game more fun, while ESL seems fresh and much more skill-based.

I fear it might go the way of MMDoC. Before playing HS, I've used to play ubisoft's CCG for several years, which imo was way superior to HS, but died due to shitty management (they literally broke and buried it) and lack of advertisement. I don't know if Bethesda has smarter marketing than Ubisoft. Hopefully. For some reason good MMOs die too often while mediocre ones stay alive for a decade.

Where screenshots are saved on TESL ?

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ESO terrible? Okay. It sure was a mess during launch, but overtime, it turned one of the best. In fact, way better than other current MMORPG games there, including Guild Wars 2. 

Guess people are still mad because there is no new Elder Scrolls SP game. 

Hearthstone is good. No one is denying that, but instead of getting better, it is only going down into gutter. On top of that, Blizzard doesn't give a shite about you or the community.

With each expansion/adventure, it's only getting worse. Even this upcoming One Night in Karazhan has some of the worst cards. 

TES: Legends is nowhere near perfect either, but atleast it is off to a promising start and has more depth that Hearthstone will ever have. 

Well, if they want it to be a success and make more money, then they will listen to community feedback. 

It's win-win for all, so it'll be only stupidity on their part if they mess this. It has lot of potential. 

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I am actually surprised Bethesda, which last games were utterly mediocre (not bad, just mediocre), made a good CCG. Definitely more fun than Hearthstone. Since I play HS for long time and established a solid card collection, I won't leave it completely, but surely will dedicate more time to ESL. Karazhan seems very disappointing, and doubt it will make game more fun, while ESL seems fresh and much more skill-based.

I fear it might go the way of MMDoC. Before playing HS, I've used to play ubisoft's CCG for several years, which imo was way superior to HS, but died due to shitty management (they literally broke and buried it) and lack of advertisement. I don't know if Bethesda has smarter marketing than Ubisoft. Hopefully. For some reason good MMOs die too often while mediocre ones stay alive for a decade.

 How do you know Kara won't be fun? The bosses are pretty interesting, the legendaries are fun and the rest of the cards are pretty good. Yeah they kinda made a mistake with a couple but they're still learning as they go here. I have a lot more trust in Blizzard than I do Bethesda, cause they just have a really bad track record with multiplayer games and I can already see some red flags with ESL

Am I the only one who thinks Elder scrolls Legends is not a contender to Hearthstone?

Even though the Elder scrolls franchise has a good following, Hearthstone isn't a super hit just cause of its Warcraft following.  It was the first digital card game that got mainstream coverage and attention, and thus was many peoples first card game.  These card games are long time investments timewise at least, and many people don't have time for multiple games.  Many are also very reluctant to just drop a game, if they have built up a big collection...cause they now how long that usually takes in these types of games.  

The other thing is ESL is a very hardcore game, very imposing, and intimidating for someone with no card experience, or  only casual Hearthstone experience.  This eliminates a large portion (one would say the vast majority) of potential players.  In addition it borrows many elements from Hearthstone which will lead to many not wanting to even give it a fair shot cause they feel it is a clone (obviously it isn't, but this is what many will think on first glance).  

Finally the art is serious but quite bland, the animations aren't as poppy.  What do these shallow aspects have to do with success?  A lot.  I think ESL will have very few female players as the D&D classic fantasy art is very offputting to most of them.  The cutesy, cartoony, and somewhat ridiculous Hearthstone art is something that can cast a much wider net and attract many female players.  What is just as big a negative is even in its own chosen style (serious traditional fantasy art) it is very underwhelming.  There is little that grabs one's attention, it isn't like Magic or D&D (never played but I remember those monster books looked really cool).

Am I the only one that feels this way?

Another great episode of this Legends podcast.

I love Elder Scrolls franchise and I don't like Warcraft franchise at all, but this game just looks like a decent control-oriented clone of Hearthstone with elements of MTG (I don't know actually, I'm not MTG player) with couple of interesting features (runes and lanes).
[Completely wrong statement about solo arena]. :)
If there was no Hearthstone, Legends would be probably best game ever for me, but Hearthstone exists and I don't see any reason to try to move to Legends. Hearthstone is just faster and better refined in any sense. I understand that this is only beta but I don't feel like official release will change a lot. I wish Legends best anyway, because it's good game for sure. I hope it will have reasonable success.

Solo arena increases in difficulty as you rank up in it.  It gets very, very challenging.

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Am I the only one who thinks Elder scrolls Legends is not a contender to Hearthstone?

Even though the Elder scrolls franchise has a good following, Hearthstone isn't a super hit just cause of its Warcraft following.  It was the first digital card game that got mainstream coverage and attention, and thus was many peoples first card game.  These card games are long time investments timewise at least, and many people don't have time for multiple games.  Many are also very reluctant to just drop a game, if they have built up a big collection...cause they now how long that usually takes in these types of games. 

Are the rewards really better?  The legendary drop rate is supposedly the same, except in ESL you can have 3 copies of any legendary in your deck besides the few uniques.  Plus there is no pity timer, on reddit people have opened 50 packs with no legendary.  Or 200 packs and only 2 legendaries.  Decks are also 50-70 cards meaning you need way more cards to build a competitive deck.  The quests give about the same amount of gold as Hearthstone dailies, and it is the same system...a quest a day, can replace one quest a day.  On top of that this game is more balanced by rarity, meaning having more legendaries is often a big advantage not just in being able to play a larger variety of decks but in just being stronger overall.