I am not here to discuss whether this is better than HS or not. Anyway, I am very very surprised that this game already passed HS in terms of interest (measured by Google Trends). Yes, HS is going badly, but I didn't think so deeply badly. We can argue if this is a good way to measure the interest. It is anyway a good measure the Google searches based on a topic. I also added Diablo Immortal as comparison.
So, in conclusion, gg Blizzard, it seems that Ben Brode is doing a far better work than you. Marvel Snap is generating more interest than Hearthstone + Diablo Immortal, combined.
This is very funny considering that Ben Brode before was working for you. It is even funnier considering that this game, Marvel Snap, costed 2 cents compared to HS and Diablo Immortal. But probably people here don't feel scammed. So, nice strategy, Blizzard. Let's develop more cash grab, things will go perfectly, into the abyss.
Marvel Snap came out a week ago and is leveraging the most popular brand on earth. Hearthstone is pushing 8 years old and is on the tail end of it's expansion cycle.
A five year old could point out the holes in your logic.
No :) You also have Diablo Immortal inside the chart for this reason. And Marvel Snap yes used a popular brand. But it is made by an indie company without a history. Activision Blizzard is the biggest game company in the world. This is a major difference. Because if Second Dinner announce a new game, very few people will care, when Activision Blizzard announces a new game all newspaper in the world will talk about it. So, if an unknown company without history can generate more interest with a game than two big titles coming from the biggest gaming company in the world, it is astonishing. It is astonishing how Activision Blizzard is doing a poor work.
No :) You also have Diablo Immortal inside the chart for this reason. And Marvel Snap yes used a popular brand. But it is made by an indie company without a history. Activision Blizzard is the biggest game company in the world.
Indie company with $30 million funds from a Chinese tech giant plus a Marvel's license. Wait with that download count at least till the next year.
But it is made by an indie company without a history.
Calling Second Dinner an indie company is so wrong. As an indie developer myself, I find such statement incredible offensive. Having said that, don't worry, I'm not here to make a fuss about it, just wanted to point that out, that's all. :P
No :) You also have Diablo Immortal inside the chart for this reason. And Marvel Snap yes used a popular brand. But it is made by an indie company without a history. Activision Blizzard is the biggest game company in the world.
Indie company with $30 million funds from a Chinese tech giant plus a Marvel's license.
But it is made by an indie company without a history.
Calling Second Dinner an indie company is so wrong. As an indie developer myself, I find such statement incredible offensive. Having said that, don't worry, I'm not here to make a fuss about it, just wanted to point that out, that's all. :P
Well, you cannot like the word indie. It is for sure a very small company. A spit compared to Blizzard.
Because if Second Dinner announce a new game, very few people will care, when Activision Blizzard announces a new game all newspaper in the world will talk about it. So, if an unknown company without history can generate more interest with a game than two big titles coming from the biggest gaming company in the world, it is astonishing. It is astonishing how Activision Blizzard is doing a poor work.
So, if Hideo Kojima decides to start a new company right now, would you call it "an unknown company without history" as well? I don't think so, because Kojima alone is enough to generate an insane amount of interest. Ben Brode is not as famous as him, but he is pretty well known in the world of digital card games, don't forget that.
Because if Second Dinner announce a new game, very few people will care, when Activision Blizzard announces a new game all newspaper in the world will talk about it. So, if an unknown company without history can generate more interest with a game than two big titles coming from the biggest gaming company in the world, it is astonishing. It is astonishing how Activision Blizzard is doing a poor work.
So, if Hideo Kojima decides to start a new company right now, would you call it "an unknown company without history" as well? I don't think so, because Kojima alone is enough to generate an insane amount of interest. Ben Brode is not as famous as him, but he is pretty well known in the world of digital card games, don't forget that.
Well, yes, Hideo Kojima is a recognized genius, Brode is a person. So, I doubt that this is relevant. Probably it was relevant to receive the funds, but I doubt that it is very relevant Brode to generate interest, maybe something but very little. Anyway, my point is not only that Marvel Snap is generating more interest that HS + Diablo Immortal, which is crazy. But also, that this game was created with 2 cents compared to HS + Diablo Immortal. So, it is crazy that a company with very few resources (money and capability to attract talented people) is doing better than HS + Diablo.
Almost every one of the staff at Second Dinner has at least a decade, if not more, experience making games. To say this is an "Indie" company is laughable. This is more like a Supergroup in terms of history and experience.
Because if Second Dinner announce a new game, very few people will care, when Activision Blizzard announces a new game all newspaper in the world will talk about it. So, if an unknown company without history can generate more interest with a game than two big titles coming from the biggest gaming company in the world, it is astonishing. It is astonishing how Activision Blizzard is doing a poor work.
So, if Hideo Kojima decides to start a new company right now, would you call it "an unknown company without history" as well? I don't think so, because Kojima alone is enough to generate an insane amount of interest. Ben Brode is not as famous as him, but he is pretty well known in the world of digital card games, don't forget that.
Sherman has it right. The Kojima example is perfect for this scenario. As people have stated. Marvel Snap is the new FotM. Pretty soon it will fall to the wayside.
Are you joking? Hideo Kojima is a terrible example. He designed the history of the games. Brode is a random guy who managed a card game with an overall mediocre success.
Well, yes, Hideo Kojima is a recognized genius, Brode is a person. So, I doubt that this is relevant. Probably it was relevant to receive the funds, but I doubt that it is very relevant Brode to generate interest, maybe something but very little.
Sorry, but you have to be kidding, mate. If you hear or read somewhere that the creators of MtG decided to release a new physical card game, wouldn't you be interested on it, even if you don't know their names? Hearthstone is the most succesful digital card game ever, of course that another one developed by its original director and public face (who even left Blizzard many years ago) is going to generate a lot of interest just by pointing that out.
Are you joking? Hideo Kojima is a terrible example. He designed the history of the games. Brode is a random guy who managed a card game with an overall mediocre success.
Are you joking? Hideo Kojima is a terrible example. He designed the history of the games. Brode is a random guy who managed a card game with an overall mediocre success.
Wait, what?
Yes. It has been a good card game, but it is very far to be a pillar in the games like Metal Gear :). I mean, if you write a list with the most important games in the history, I am quite certain that you would not include HS. Metal Gear instead will be inside the list, definitely.
Are you joking? Hideo Kojima is a terrible example. He designed the history of the games. Brode is a random guy who managed a card game with an overall mediocre success.
Wait, what?
Yes. It has been a good card game, but it is very far to be a pillar in the games like Metal Gear :) Anyway, this is off-topic.
That is exactly why I said that Ben Brode is not as famous as Kojima, but he is still very well known in the world of digital card games.
a new game with a large ad campaign behind it during launch will always have a surge of interest, but interest needs to transfer into users to mean anything.
We will have to wait and see when the quarterly user data comes out.
But it is made by an indie company without a history.
Calling Second Dinner an indie company is so wrong. As an indie developer myself, I find such statement incredible offensive. Having said that, don't worry, I'm not here to make a fuss about it, just wanted to point that out, that's all. :P
Their definition: "Second Dinner is a small indie game development company based in Irvine, California. It hasn’t published anything yet, but is pretty sure that it will someday."
Now, we can agree or disagree with this definition. It is anyway, definitely, not wrong. 30M company in gaming is minimal. Indie companies are not only 3 guys inside the garage that tries to change the world with the grandmother's bonus.
I've played a bit of Snap. It's fun, but it's very simply strategically. All decks are just slightly different versions of token decks - get stuff out there and buff it. There's not much variety. I imagine the meta has been sovled already, though I haven't tried to netdeck anything. It may be more of a "gotta catch them all" collecting game than a strategic game.
And, after a week or so of playing, the game slows down A LOT in terms of experience and becomes pretty grindy. My guess is that once people blow through the first week of quick rewards, the interest will start to slow down.
There are a few annoying things about the game: instead of daily quests, quests are on a timer. The collection is just one huge list of cards. There is no horizontal mode, which makes playing on an iPad annoying.
Maybe, I didn't even try it. What anyway astonished me is the result, that for sure it is inflated by the recent release and the Marvel franchise. I think that it is anyway an incredible accomplishment for an indie company with 2 cents without history to generate now more interest than 2 Blizzard games combined. These 2 games are well established games, one out for many years and another very recent and part of one of the most known franchises in the gaming history. So, Brode did an impressive job and Blizzard is doing a terrible job.
But it is made by an indie company without a history.
Calling Second Dinner an indie company is so wrong. As an indie developer myself, I find such statement incredible offensive. Having said that, don't worry, I'm not here to make a fuss about it, just wanted to point that out, that's all. :P
Their definition: Second Dinner is a small indie game development company based in Irvine, California. It hasn’t published anything yet, but is pretty sure that it will someday.
Now, we can agree or disagree with this definition. It is anyway, definitely, not wrong.
Just because they say it, doesn't make it true. They are just simply lying , dude.
I am not here to discuss whether this is better than HS or not. Anyway, I am very very surprised that this game already passed HS in terms of interest (measured by Google Trends). Yes, HS is going badly, but I didn't think so deeply badly. We can argue if this is a good way to measure the interest. It is anyway a good measure the Google searches based on a topic. I also added Diablo Immortal as comparison.
So, in conclusion, gg Blizzard, it seems that Ben Brode is doing a far better work than you. Marvel Snap is generating more interest than Hearthstone + Diablo Immortal, combined.
This is very funny considering that Ben Brode before was working for you. It is even funnier considering that this game, Marvel Snap, costed 2 cents compared to HS and Diablo Immortal. But probably people here don't feel scammed. So, nice strategy, Blizzard. Let's develop more cash grab, things will go perfectly, into the abyss.
Marvel Snap came out a week ago and is leveraging the most popular brand on earth. Hearthstone is pushing 8 years old and is on the tail end of it's expansion cycle.
A five year old could point out the holes in your logic.
No :) You also have Diablo Immortal inside the chart for this reason. And Marvel Snap yes used a popular brand. But it is made by an indie company without a history. Activision Blizzard is the biggest game company in the world. This is a major difference. Because if Second Dinner announce a new game, very few people will care, when Activision Blizzard announces a new game all newspaper in the world will talk about it. So, if an unknown company without history can generate more interest with a game than two big titles coming from the biggest gaming company in the world, it is astonishing. It is astonishing how Activision Blizzard is doing a poor work.
Indie company with $30 million funds from a Chinese tech giant plus a Marvel's license. Wait with that download count at least till the next year.
Calling Second Dinner an indie company is so wrong. As an indie developer myself, I find such statement incredible offensive. Having said that, don't worry, I'm not here to make a fuss about it, just wanted to point that out, that's all. :P
LOL. 30M funds are 2 cents. Activision Blizzard is a company where Blizzard only, until June only, declared 401M in net revenue. https://investor.activision.com/static-files/4811b5b4-c6f0-44a5-aff0-1b3b7ccfa39a
Well, you cannot like the word indie. It is for sure a very small company. A spit compared to Blizzard.
So, if Hideo Kojima decides to start a new company right now, would you call it "an unknown company without history" as well? I don't think so, because Kojima alone is enough to generate an insane amount of interest. Ben Brode is not as famous as him, but he is pretty well known in the world of digital card games, don't forget that.
Well, yes, Hideo Kojima is a recognized genius, Brode is a person. So, I doubt that this is relevant. Probably it was relevant to receive the funds, but I doubt that it is very relevant Brode to generate interest, maybe something but very little. Anyway, my point is not only that Marvel Snap is generating more interest that HS + Diablo Immortal, which is crazy. But also, that this game was created with 2 cents compared to HS + Diablo Immortal. So, it is crazy that a company with very few resources (money and capability to attract talented people) is doing better than HS + Diablo.
Almost every one of the staff at Second Dinner has at least a decade, if not more, experience making games. To say this is an "Indie" company is laughable. This is more like a Supergroup in terms of history and experience.
Sherman has it right. The Kojima example is perfect for this scenario. As people have stated. Marvel Snap is the new FotM. Pretty soon it will fall to the wayside.
Are you joking? Hideo Kojima is a terrible example. He designed the history of the games. Brode is a random guy who managed a card game with an overall mediocre success.
Sorry, but you have to be kidding, mate. If you hear or read somewhere that the creators of MtG decided to release a new physical card game, wouldn't you be interested on it, even if you don't know their names? Hearthstone is the most succesful digital card game ever, of course that another one developed by its original director and public face (who even left Blizzard many years ago) is going to generate a lot of interest just by pointing that out.
Wait, what?
Yes. It has been a good card game, but it is very far to be a pillar in the games like Metal Gear :). I mean, if you write a list with the most important games in the history, I am quite certain that you would not include HS. Metal Gear instead will be inside the list, definitely.
Anyway, this is off-topic.
That is exactly why I said that Ben Brode is not as famous as Kojima, but he is still very well known in the world of digital card games.
a new game with a large ad campaign behind it during launch will always have a surge of interest, but interest needs to transfer into users to mean anything.
We will have to wait and see when the quarterly user data comes out.
https://seconddinner.com/press-release/
Their definition: "Second Dinner is a small indie game development company based in Irvine, California. It hasn’t published anything yet, but is pretty sure that it will someday."
Now, we can agree or disagree with this definition. It is anyway, definitely, not wrong. 30M company in gaming is minimal. Indie companies are not only 3 guys inside the garage that tries to change the world with the grandmother's bonus.
I've played a bit of Snap. It's fun, but it's very simply strategically. All decks are just slightly different versions of token decks - get stuff out there and buff it. There's not much variety. I imagine the meta has been sovled already, though I haven't tried to netdeck anything. It may be more of a "gotta catch them all" collecting game than a strategic game.
And, after a week or so of playing, the game slows down A LOT in terms of experience and becomes pretty grindy. My guess is that once people blow through the first week of quick rewards, the interest will start to slow down.
There are a few annoying things about the game: instead of daily quests, quests are on a timer. The collection is just one huge list of cards. There is no horizontal mode, which makes playing on an iPad annoying.
Maybe, I didn't even try it. What anyway astonished me is the result, that for sure it is inflated by the recent release and the Marvel franchise. I think that it is anyway an incredible accomplishment for an indie company with 2 cents without history to generate now more interest than 2 Blizzard games combined. These 2 games are well established games, one out for many years and another very recent and part of one of the most known franchises in the gaming history. So, Brode did an impressive job and Blizzard is doing a terrible job.
Just because they say it, doesn't make it true. They are just simply lying , dude.
You have no idea what you are talking about...
This is the definition of an indie game by Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_game
Now tell me, is Marvel Snap an indie game under that definition? Obviously, it is not.
Also, this is another definition you should add to your personal dictionary:
What is false humility?
Second Dinner... What a bunch of liars they ended up to be! Disgusting!