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Quote from Sherman1986 >>

Yeah, a problematic behaviour for Blizzard and others, not him. Being problematic for others doesn't mean that you have an actual problem, nor does admitting it means that you are admitting having a problem.

 By that logic, psychopaths don't have a problem. They are problematic for others, not themselves, but they do have an actual problem, even though they don't admit to it.

I'm not saying the OP is a psychopath, I'm just using this comparison to help demonstrate the flaw with your logic.

They have a problematic behaviour for Blizzard, and sense Blizzard is the regulatory entity in charge of Hearthstone and the majority of interactions and sanctions there in, a problem for them is indeed and actual problem in that exact construct.

The OP came here to discuss his situation, a situation taking place within this construct, Hearthstone, regulated by Blizzard. Even if he doesn't want to see or admit his behaviour as a problem, I am not being offensive by pointing out to him to the fact that within the construct in which he is facing his situation, his behaviour is a problem.

The OP was not discussing his behaviour in other constructs, in other areas, he discussed in with the constraints of Hearthstone, and as such, me pointing out what is factual a problem there, is simply pointing out a fact and a solution he can adopt. If you want to argue whether that fact is offensive to the OP, or to you, or anyone, I guess you could, but I don't see a point in doing so.

In Hearthstone, a construct regulated by Blizzard, which considers Flaming to be a problem, Flaming is a problem.

I tried to say in my previous post "Being problematic for others doesn't mean that you always have an actual problem" (I forgot to add the word "always" ;)). If I'm a bastard with people who are kind with me, it just means I'm being a bad person, nothing else. If I'm a bastard with people who I think deserve being treated like shit, I'm being fair. Treating others badly, most of the time, does not mean in any way having a problem. That is what you don't understand my friend.

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Quote from Sherman1986 >>

I tried to say in my previous post "Being problematic for others doesn't mean that you always have an actual problem" (I forgot to add the word "always" ;)). If I'm a bastard with people who are kind with me, it just mean I'm being a bad person, nothing else. If I'm a bastard with people who I think deserve being treated like shit, I'm being fair. Treating others badly, most of the time, does not mean in any way having a problem. That is what you don't understand my friend.

 I understand what you mean, but that is irrelevant for our discussion. What each individual perceives of other individuals is entirely subjective. You interpret the actions of other individuals through your own individual perspective. This means there is no objective measure in your assessment of the other individual, it is entirely possible for you to interpret the actions of another individual as the most offensive, heinous actions they can possibly perform, and I can interpret those same actions as fun criticism, as a kind action, or anything else entirely, because it is entirely subjective.

Since these subjective assessments are completely useless by nature, they vary widely, we instead establish objective measurements which we can agree on. This is the basis for most laws, objective measurements by which we can decide whether an action is a problem or not.

Hearthstone, again, is a construct of Blizzard and solely regulated by them, meaning rules are defined and established by them, and the only objective measure by which we can decide if actions by players are a problem or not, is by measuring them within the rules Blizzard defined.

I doesn't matter if you, me, or the OP consider flaming a problem, it matter whether Blizzard has defined it as such. Solely with regards to Hearthstone. We can argue as much as we want about flaming as an action outside of Hearthstone, but within Hearthstone, Blizzard's rule is the objective measure that decides whether or not flaming is a problem.

Well, you are right, but you said in a previous post: "He himself correlated his behaviour, his flaming, with the reason he assumes he would be blocked. You only make this correlation if you can look at your behaviour as see it as problematic and worthy of receiving sanctions for it.".

You are interpreting OP's reasoning through your own individual perspective, which you admitted (in your last post) as being a wrong method because each one is different. Think about it, hehe, you are contradicting yourself here. ;)

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Quote from Sherman1986 >>

Well, you are right, but you said in a previous post: "He himself correlated his behaviour, his flaming, with the reason he assumes he would be blocked. You only make this correlation if you can look at your behaviour as see it as problematic and worthy of receiving sanctions for it.".

You are interpreting OP's reasoning through your own individual perspective, which you admitted (in your last post) as being a wrong method because each one is different. Think about it, hehe, you are contradicting yourself here. ;)

 Except it is not because my own individual perspective that allows the interpretation of the OP's reasoning, it's the fact that Blizzard has established the rules to dictate that flaming is a problem that allows me to guess the OP's reasoning. OP understand Blizzard's rules and as such, OP realises his behaviour is problematic according to Blizzard's rules, and as such, worthy of sanctions, because that is their rule.

Yes, so what? That doesn't mean in any way OP believes he has a problem, because bieng a problem and having a problem are two f...king different things for god sake!!!!!!

Jesus Christ, I'm starting to get irritated by this conversation, LOL. :P

OP knows he is a problem for Blizzard and others, he recognized it, yeah, but that doesn't tell us how OP sees others and Blizzard in any way. Maybe OP thinks Blizzard and the people flamed by him are pure evil (which probably are ;) and he is a servant of justice. You don't have any idea about what he thinks unless he tells you precisely, DiamondDM13, there is no - f..king - way - to - know - it.

DiamonDM13, for god sake, how do you know with all certainity this part of this sentence: "If it is true, than, congrats Bl$$ard, finally you have made a tool to control ppl like me, if it is a bug, how can I fix it?", is not sarcasm, especially when he uses the word "Bl$$ard"?

Jesus, there is no f...king way to know unless he tells us, no - f...king - way... 

Well this looks a bit awkward 

but can I know the Exact level of damage  at least ...

i think I can help some how ... 

Edit : I had the same problem 3 Times before -_- nothing new 

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 This is going to ridiculous levels so I'll just leave this last reply and hope it is enough, as I don't think it's productive to continue past this.

No, it's not enough, which clearly means:

:D :D :D

sorry.. you got smashed ... lol :D

Quote from Thaulopi >>

My assumption: Blizzard blocked me in Hearthstone, so I cannot flame others after a loss / which I have done in the past tbh.

If it is true, than, congrats Bl$$ard, finally you have made a tool to control ppl like me, if it is a bug, how can I fix it?

Seven months late for April Fools, mate.

Oky ha ha really funny 😂 

I think I can talk now so is there any Solution for the problem or what ? 

Seriously guys WTF !? 

And thanks Man it was my bad not yours .... 

Quote from Lyra_Silvertongue >>

This thread is silly. Can we get it locked already? :P

 stfu and go away mind your business lol, im sick of justice warriors like you, who even ask you to read it ?

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Quote from Lyra_Silvertongue >>

This thread is silly. Can we get it locked already? :P

 stfu and go away mind your business lol, im sick of justice warriors like you, who even ask you to read it ?

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We need some card releases so the sad people of this thread can be distracted for a bit...  Move on ppl... Move on...

Could you find a solution? If you couldn't, you can try to uninstall blizzard app and reinstall it but don't uninstall Hearthstone. Just relocate and uninstall/reinstall it then locate your hearthstone in new app.

Sometimes Blizzard app could be buggy. I remember how I can't join HoTS after patching it. After reinstalling the app only, all have been corrected.



By the way, I love how people twists the matter. By this logic, You will let a burglar die while the burglar asks for help you to save him from a burning place. for this comment @OP; I am not associating your behaviour with a burglar, just trying to make a point.

Also; i hate the "flaming" term for games nowadays. It is also a term that people twists the matter so much. When you locate a mistake of your teammate and asking her/him not to do that again they are blacklisting you as "flamer" and after that you naturally react the people who calls you as a "flamer" and after that fight begins and you got all the reports and baammmm!!! You are silenced/banned/kicked from party etc.


People has to think that there is a problem if someone whines/flames. Noone does a self-criticism.

For the record, not flaming doesn't make you a "Good Person". It may make you careless, insensitive, maverick or something like these but not good person.

All of your comments irritated and disgusted me. She/he asked for help. Help or go away that's simple...

Even if this is a troll topic, no worries; It made me to see how people be disgusting and I hate my kind once again.
("One gal/guy asks for help and telling about her/his behaviour and Crowd decides to talk about her/his behaviour like old biddies instead of helping her/him")

Pathetic..

You reached the maximum amount of friend requests.

Quote from Roger_smith >>

haha you are all so pathetic eating your * in circle, do you think you'all some kind of superior human beings for telling him he has a wrong behavior ? its a stupid game to play while * no one cares 

 You play the game, visit the site, reply to comments. You care a lot my friend. 

If this isnt a bug perhaps you should play the game normally as friends isnt something you wanted anyways. I have no solution and you dont seem to regret anything so it worked out. Good luck with finding your new fun. 

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By the way, I love how people twists the matter. By this logic, You will let a burglar die while the burglar asks for help you to save him from a burning place. for this comment @OP; I am not associating your behaviour with a burglar, just trying to make a point.

Also; i hate the "flaming" term for games nowadays. It is also a term that people twists the matter so much. When you locate a mistake of your teammate and asking her/him not to do that again they are blacklisting you as "flamer" and after that you naturally react the people who calls you as a "flamer" and after that fight begins and you got all the reports and baammmm!!! You are silenced/banned/kicked from party etc.

People has to think that there is a problem if someone whines/flames. Noone does a self-criticism.

For the record, not flaming doesn't make you a "Good Person". It may make you careless, insensitive, maverick or something like these but not good person.

 

 

 You decided to twist the matter of discussion as well. The burglar is not asking you to help him to safety from a burning house. The burglar is asking you to help him unlock another lock so he can enter another house. That is the issue.

I'm saying the OP wants to continue flaming people, but he is requesting help to be enabled to continue flaming, to continue having the option to flame. I doubt most would react this manner if OP was requesting help to do something that wouldn't be presenting him the option to continue flaming.

OP shows evidence of improper behaviour, I'm not going to help him unlock the restrictions that prevent him from continuing his improper behaviour. If the OP wishes to redeem himself and not continue that behaviour, sure, one can help, but otherwise, no.

I have some doubts about the rest though. It could be an incorrect definition, but I was not aware criticism, specially constructive (which your example seems to entail regarding teamwork), was regarded as flaming. Flaming I was reading it as simple harassment, simple discourse devoid of constructive aspects and solely intended as offence.

If your teammate calls you a piece of shit or insults you in other manners with nothing constructive on the table, that is flaming.

If your teammate tells you you are doing something incorrect and it would benefit the team if you were to do it in a different manner, that is not flaming.

I suspect the OP, when stating flaming other players, he is not adding them to constructively discuss strategy or plays or even a friendly chat, but rather, to insult them for whatever reason he chooses.

 You are just muddying the waters. You really think twice when someone uses sarcasms, ironies to tell his problems. Some people has that style of living. I am not defending that but you need to know the person who you are communicated with. At least try to understand. It seems you can't do that.

It was obvious that OP needs really help with something when I read the topic. She/he just told his help requirement with a sarcastic and joke-y way.

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Quote from Thaulopi >>

Gentlemen, as it seems, the almighty god of InTerwbS is coming up short with answers to my plea.

1. My friend list is empty, I have zero friends, as in real life.

2. Nobody wants to be my friend as I am as popular as the plaque, thus no clogging of requests

3. I love myself and my flaws

I just need one individual for the challenge quest that is all. Maybe, one of you gents would like to add me? Send me a pn and I will respond.

Except this Grand Crusader chap, he is too toxic...lol

 Seems like She/he wants a help to rescue, not to burgle to me, eh?



Also for the point you've done there, Yes I have decided to twist the matter of discussion. Guess why? Because OP did not open this thread for "Flaming" discussion. You community guys have directed it to that point. Also What you've done as quoting me was not an honest behaviour. It is way worse than flaming in my opinion because you've cut my comment to suit your book.

I have tried to help first, then jumped into your discussion as you can see here;

 

I couldn't see any of you who are discussing flaming tried to help. You are defending yourself as "I never help burglars to lockpick a door"  and I am saying "She/he was dying, doesn't need help of a burgle" and the quote from OP above proves this.

And the other point that you told about "flaming and teamwork" is fully nonsense. I know what I experienced so much. When I say one of my teammates to "Don't do that again, You've made us die there" or "Hey x, Do you want to join us in teamfights, maybe?" I always faced same reaction from other teammates. "DUDE STOP FLAMING!".  Seriously !? What !? Really !?

Cut a long story short; Yes, Flaming is an issue that the community misunderstood mostly.

This is interesting! Both parts have merit when they say, it is unfair to judge me and it is fair to judge me. The perception of my actions or my accounts thereof is biased by one's own experiences with people like me. One of the mayor flaws of mankind has always been judgement based on our own perception of reality.

One of you, condemning me and my alleged actions has merit based on his perception and my white knight does the same. So who is right and who is wrong? None and both! This is our bane, we allow our own bias to interfere with our judgement. This is why one of the many Jesus' of our history was quoted by saying, do not judge lest you are judged.

Still, on a side-note, I cannot add anybody and my quest cannot be completed. Looking for help and not judgement.