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And how would you get cards? Would you really get all the cards right from the start?
Why not? you are paying $35 for the game.
Just to put things in perspective here. Grand Theft Auto 5 was a MASSIVE undertaking that was developed by several studios working for Rockstar. They spent HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars and YEARS creating the game and engine. They then went and hired the best writers and the top voice work talent and recorded thousands of lines of dialogue. After that they went and spent a ton of money on a massive soundtrack full of licensed songs. Finally, they created an online portion that is still supported well after launch with free patches and updated game modes for free.
For all of that they charged $60.
I am suggesting $35 for a game that could be played on a web browser using flash circa 2005. An electronic card game made by a very small team at Blizzard. Again, in addition, having a marketplace that will make them even more money on top of it selling customization.
People making comparisons to magic the gathering are not comparing apples to apples. Magic the gathering was selling PHYSICAL CARDS. Cards that you could potentially resell or trade and had value. There is no value in a digital version of ragnaros nor the ability to trade it. The only value is to that of the purchaser who is using it for advantage against someone who doesn't have it.
mmh..yeah but that just feels like it would be the opposite of what a TCG is supposed to be..
You are NOT paying 35 dollars for the game. the game is F2P meaning YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PURCHASE THE GAME. I hate it when people act immature or act stupid claiming that F2P means everything in the game is free. Thats like calling WoW F2P when you have to PURCHASE the game. This game you can get EVERY CARD just by playing games and winning games. Just play casual or arena and you will be fine. Stop your obsessive pitchfork war on blizzard just because you lost to someone with a Legendary.
I dont understand what you mean. All the high ranks and legend ranked players already have every single card unlocked. what are they playing for then? It's already that way.
You have the most appropriate forum name I have ever seen.
You won a 1000 games. You played probably very close to 2000 games. I have to assume you were having fun to stick with it for so long.
Poetic.
This doesn't defend your argument at all. This is just a collection of stats you pulled out of your ass to make yourself feel more validated, especially given that your argument has been refuted time and again in this thread.
Poetic.
@PoeticStanziel
Just because people who spent 100$ on the game go against him doesn't mean his argument is "refuted", his collection of stats IS a defense of his argument, not just to make himself feel "validated".
Because you could say that with anything, that if anyone says anything that required background thought that they're just making themselves feel "validated", it is in itself a very pointless thing to say..
You're not supposed to grind for gold. That's why daily quests give ~50 gold and playing for an hour only gives 10. It's not hard to get all the commons/rares without paying as long as you claim your quests every day.
If anything hearthstone is a pay to progress game, which is the same as games like league of legends: You either grind for influence points to get new champs or you buy riot points to speed it up.
Do you think that companies are going to make a f2p game that they don't make money off of? I think you're also underestimating the amount of effort that Blizzard put into hearthstone. The fact that it's so successful despite being a brand new card game is incredibly impressive, and the game is very well thought out.
Talk about not comparing apples to apples, you're comparing Grand Theft Auto V to Hearthstone, and you fail to see the problem behind that? Lets compare Final Fantasy to Madden because they are both video games you don't see how ridiculous that is? OR how about this, you compare Hearthstone to MTG online, or infinity wars, both of which are card games played on a computer, and both of them charge you money for booster packs. Hearthstone is a collectible card game. Period. There is nothing to debate. If you take away one of the main reasons for playing the game you will lose more than half of your player base guaranteed. You pay 35 bucks for Hearthstone and it gives you all the cards right up front, what is my reason for playing the game now? All I can do is grind the ladder and that's it, with your model there is no reason to run arena other than boredom with the ladder, you have nothing to work for, collecting all the cards is a big draw for a lot of players. The next part is, players who are better at hearthstone will have an advantage no matter what, the cards do not matter. It is the person playing the card. Take a brand new player and hand them a deck that has reached the Legend rank and watch them fail miserably, they don't know how it works, they don't know how to play it. Games in Hearthstone are not won by just throwing every legendary into a deck and pressing the play button, I'm pretty sure Totalbiscuit has all but proven that on his Lord of Legendary's series. Some of the best cards in the game are basics and commons, and if you don't see that then you don't understand Hearthstone or any card game for that matter
How do you know you can play Hearthstone in a web browser? Are you a developer of the game? Do you have any inside knowledge on the subject of the creation of Hearthstone? I'm going to say no.
And I will end this by saying one last thing. Why do you care so much if you are quitting the game and are done. Your title for the thread suggests that you will never pick up hearthstone ever again, and yet you defend your point so adamantly. Is this thread just to stir up crap on the internet? I'm guessing that's what it is and in that case congratulations you have succeeded.
In other words people, don't feed the troll.
P.S. I'm still interested in your stuff
I find OP to be most entertaining and hope he keeps it up without understanding what he is doing which he has yet to do and judging by his posts,never will.
Removing facts to try and make up your own facts doesn't work outside of inside someones head btw...
He's just mad that he doesn't have a swarm of dick riders jumping on his hearthstone bash train
Almost every legend ranked player and I would venture to guess most players up until Rank 5 currently have everything unlocked, yet they still play. If they dont have every single last legendary then it doesnt matter because they have the sylvania's, ysera, rag, and black knight that they want to use and probably just dusted the useless nat pagle's. None of those people are playing for cards anymore yet they still play, and they play more then anyone else. Explain that to me. Apparently they still have "something to work for" and are doing just fine without unlocking any new cards.
Regarding Arena I answered that 3 times now. Arena would have it's own separate ranking ladder on and you would earn gold to spend on cosmetics in a marketplace. You want a blue game field set in a night setting? 3000 gold.
His stats aren't real statistics. They're just numbers he made up, solely to give strength to an argument that has already been refuted.
"Half the people defending this game have probably spent well over $100+ ..." Not a real stat and no substantiation for that conclusion.
"... your position makes you the 1% of an ULTRA minority." Again, nothing to substantiate this conclusion. It's there to make him feel better for what is a minority opinion in his own thread.
"For the average person, getting a full uninterrupted hour to play video games every other day is rare." The average person spends a couple hours per evening watching television. So I think the average person DOES have an hour to spare for video games.
I could go on. But that entire post was garbage. It exists to make you think his argument has legs to stand on.
Poetic.
Hearthstone is a Free To Play game and not a Pay to Win game. If you have the time you can in fact really grind ~4500 gold a month with constructed alone (30* 100 daily cap + 30* 50 gold per quest). A lot more with Arena participation. It would take only few months to obtain close to every card in the game for free.
You can literally be the best Hearthstone gamer without spending a single cent in this game.
If you are lacking the time, the dedication or whatever, its only ignorant to expect the same reward as someone who can invest the time into the game.
This game would only be Pay To Win if there would be game changing content in the game which could be obtainable exclusively with real money purchases. For example if all legendary card would be exclusively obtainable with only purchased card packs, not with earned card packs. Even in this case it could be discussed if this game is still a Pay To Win game or not, because there are in fact decks which are competitive without legendaries.
For em the people who complain did not get in touch with real Pay To Win games. I can gurantee you, compared to htem Hearthstone is heaven. With reasonable time you'll gert everything, and can participate in everything.
You are what I like to describe as a "Semantics Whore" as it relates to this argument. You take the phrase "Pay to Win" and create an absolute rigid definition of what it means to you. Then you take your ball and go home after convincing yourself you found a flaw in the logic.
Pay to win is a FUCKING euphemism. Would you rather I say "pay-for-advantage" or "pay-to-get-ahead" or "pay-to-put-the-odds-in-your-favor"? pick anything you like.
During all those MANY MANY hours of dailies and cap grinding(by the way your are talking HUNDREDS of hours over the course of a month) all along the way, game after game, you are running into Ysera/Rag/Baine/Black Knights... and losing. Why? because they bought the fucking cards giving them a MASSIVE fucking advantage.
Dont fucking tell me to play zoo then. Dont fucking tell me to play hunter then. Dont tell me i have to play agro and its my fault I am not playing agro. Those are not ANSWERS that address the problem of one player having an advantage(a huge advantage) over another. I am not looking for a work around or some goofy low mana gimick deck that if I am lucky I can win before they get their legendaries off because if they do THEY WILL WIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE CARD WITH INSANE EFFECTS... that they paid for.
It blows my fucking mind that you cant quite understand that obvious fact of the matter. How can you possibly argue that is not what is happening.
Yes... Months from now after spending 100's upon 100's of hours you will likely get enough cards and legendaries to be on even ground and yes you will not have spent any money(though the old adage of time is money and hundreds upon hundreds of hours grinding away with zoo could be argued more valuable then money).
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There is no advantage to having legendaries wtf are you even talking about... Without a properly constructed deck legendaries mean nothing.
And with a properly constructed deck legendaries mean everything.