You should use all of the cards in your hand before you hit for lethal, to get as much XP out of the match as possible.
I understand the reason for doing it, but if I know my opponent has lethal and they don't instantly go through with the kill, I'm conceding. Showing respect for my time is more important than squeezing out those last few experience points, especially in a game where experience doesn't matter after level 10.
I think one of the problems is the definition of what constitutes bad manners varies so greatly. I am an older player - stuff that bothers me, I have been told, does not bother younger players.
I think this is a good point, and it's something that I find to be true. I also think it has to do with what your background as a Hearthstone player is.
Maybe I'm being some sort of old stereotypical jerk or something - though I am only 29 - but I started playing Magic when I was 11 in tournaments and in PTQs and Gran Prix and a bit beyond by the time I was 15/16. That was quite a while ago, but I just seem to recall that a basic modicum of respect for your opponent was absolutely critical in competitive play. You were respectful of your opponent, maybe you wished him luck at the beginning (or maybe you didn't because of superstition) but still, you said hello and you sat down to play.
And at the end of the match, win or lose, you would always but *ALWAYS* say "good game" and often shake hands or fist bump or make some acknowledgment of respect. I just remember this being totally commonplace. If someone didn't do these things, they were quickly identified and generally either treated like a jerk and ostracized as such, or taken aside by someone and told the proper way to behave.
Now, online games have an entirely different code of conduct. Due to anonymity, obviously, people feel that they can be as rude and ill-mannered as they like and it's all consequence-free cruel trolling fun, I guess.
You should use all of the cards in your hand before you hit for lethal, to get as much XP out of the match as possible.
Wow, I didn't know about this. I won't consider that BM anymore.
On topic, squelch everyone. I'll admit that I'm sensitive to BM and get angry even when it's a "well played", unless I won. :P I've never had anyone add me after a game though. I've tried doing it to other people when I have a question about their deck, but no one's ever accepted it. Then again, I don't play casual, so maybe it's more common there.
This thread makes me curious if there is a different level of BM in various ranks. Obviously, the casual "rank" is hidden, but you probably have an idea of where you are on the win/loss scale there.
20-15 is usually fine, a few bad apples. I have noticed a sharp increase in BM around ranks 14-10. 10-6 is pretty chill. Haven't been past 6, so can't say anymore :p
For me, Casual is filled with more BM than not. I don't keep track of my casual win/loss but it's probably close to 50%.
I've also noticed, I receive a lot more BM when I'm playing as a (control) Priest or Paladin. I assume just because in those games I'm usually "behind" early game, but if I survive to mid-game, then it swings drastically in my favor, making it an emotional rollercoaster for them.
In my experience, I see the most BM coming out of Warriors and Druids.
I see the least BM from Rogues. I think it's because they're thinking so much about their turns they don't have time to BM. Haha. :p
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Why do you accept friend request from random people you've just beaten and don't know? Just why?
I like to be optimistic and think it's someone saying "Gg", which is the sportsman like thing to do. It doesn't bother me at all when people add me, because I find it humorous if they spend any amount of their time ranting at me while I've alt+tab'd out. What bothers me is that even casual mode seems to be filled with this.
Ranked is understandable. It's a competitive environment where you compete, so of course it's going to have people like that.... but casual? It's supposed to be for fun where do you dumb decks like Murlocs, Pirates, or Randuin.
You know that it's a bit contradicting if you say "it doesn't bother me... but it bothers me"? People don't differentiate between Ranked and Casual Mode. Many don't care about their rank at all and play both mode with the same kind of "seriousness" except for those that reach Rank 5 or higher those actually take it serious but then again those people usually don't rage. I haven't got one of those friend invites the whole month.
On an emotional level, it doesn't bother me. I have thick skin and I laugh at stupid rageadds.
What bothers me is for the health of the game. Hearthstone is a super casual game with a competitive aspect, but if the community becomes as bad as say, League of Legends or Dota2, then we have issues.
I typically enjoy the friendly/competitive banter back and fourth. There is a point where your spamming and just being rude or purposefully letting it rope every turn. But I highly enjoy when there is a close game, and a 'Sorry' after their good play, then Ill respond with 'Well played', and counter it, then they typically respond 'Well Played' too.
More often then not, (as long as you say 'Well Played' after their good plays and don't over emote) this kind of friendly taunting doesn't escalate to true BM. I have had quite a few add me (or vise-versa) after the game to only say GG or ask about a play in the game. Rarely does anyone rage. Its really just knowing how much is enough and being respectful.
I also generally never concede, if its a long game and hard won for them, I let em get the kill. I've met some ragers, but not enough to care. My guess is some of your are getting mad to easily and emote back in a hostile way which only causes them to escalate.
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Class prejudices are an interesting thing, too. I think some of us are predisposed to really disliking certain classes.
Like I just *despise* Druid, which is a shame because I would otherwise like the class. But playing against them is just... I hate it. Arena or constructed, but my prejudice mostly stems from my Arena playing, and just having lost to one too many stupid goddamn Ironbark Protectors when I was a turn away from Lethal. It's annoyed me so much that it's gotten Pavlovian - I almost conceded a game before realizing I had a BGH in hand, once.
Number one thing I would love is a "you are squelched" notice.
srsly. i squelch everybody, with the occasional exception of people that send a greeting on the first turn (and will squelch them as well if they send more emotes). i've only ever accepted one post-match friend request, and the dude started flaming about how i was such a noob (after he lost horribly to me) so i don't accept those anymore either. i doubt most of the people perpetrating these behaviors are participating in forums here though, with the possible exception of decklists (i would guess they're the ones talking about how much a deck sucks after using it for 3 games without winning).
I never accept friend requests from people who I don't actually know.
The only time I BM is when I get the person (usually a hunter warlock) that, when I take more than 10 seconds to take my turn, start spamming emotes.
My favorite is when I'm playing my warrior deck and I'm holding lethal in my hand (like Grommash/taskmaster) and slowly killing everything that comes out on the board without obviously trying to keep them alive. I always try to get the fatigue to kill them, but if I sense they may have a play to swing the advantage, I just end it.
I have gotten 2 friend request from people in arena after I beat them and they both said good game and good luck. I have sent to 2 friend request from people who beat me and said good game and asked what their win/loss was. It was pretty close to mine. Just seeing if I was getting matched up with people who were the same level as me.
Once I had a shaman say "I'm Sorry" after he killed every minion. I was able to say I'm sorry after I killed him.
Here is what I find to be nice when playing
Greeting
If you take a long time and rope burns and you click end, a I'm sorry is nice.
Number one thing I would love is a "you are squelched" notice.
This will probably make people even more salty than they are now.
Maybe some, but maybe others actually think they're being "cool" & "talking trash", or even getting inside their opponents head... which actually (about the head thing) is probably true a bit. I hate to have someone spamming threats or hellos or anything else when I'm considering a play. That's generally when I squelch out of pure reflex. I think a generic message like "you've been squelched" might get through to the first set (the 2 2 cools) and maybe slow down the second set. If enough people did it. Plenty of people squelch now, but it loses it's value as a teaching aid if the squelchee doesn't know it's happened.
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I personally don't really care about most things people do. I played against a Zoolock who spammed "I greet you." all the time yesterday and I joined right in. Nothing wrong with a good greeting, right?
What really pisses me off though is when hunters wait forever to cast their lethal kill command. Like seriously if you have it you have it, just do it already.
As far as getting added by people post-match it's never happened to me before, but I've added others and they were all really nice to talk to.
Anything that you call BM, except for obvious stalling for unreasonable periods of time is not BM.
Does "Thank you" or "Well played" after your mistake really make your blood boil? Well, if you aren't 7 year old or didn't grow up in thug ghetto, where people kill for wrong words or inappropriate glance, than you are just a funny little self-affected person.
I typically empty my hand if I see that I have lethal or that my opponent does, to maximize the XP I get from the match towards leveling my heroes.
I don't spam emotes or add people to flame them, though.
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You should use all of the cards in your hand before you hit for lethal, to get as much XP out of the match as possible.
I understand the reason for doing it, but if I know my opponent has lethal and they don't instantly go through with the kill, I'm conceding. Showing respect for my time is more important than squeezing out those last few experience points, especially in a game where experience doesn't matter after level 10.
I think this is a good point, and it's something that I find to be true. I also think it has to do with what your background as a Hearthstone player is.
Maybe I'm being some sort of old stereotypical jerk or something - though I am only 29 - but I started playing Magic when I was 11 in tournaments and in PTQs and Gran Prix and a bit beyond by the time I was 15/16. That was quite a while ago, but I just seem to recall that a basic modicum of respect for your opponent was absolutely critical in competitive play. You were respectful of your opponent, maybe you wished him luck at the beginning (or maybe you didn't because of superstition) but still, you said hello and you sat down to play.
And at the end of the match, win or lose, you would always but *ALWAYS* say "good game" and often shake hands or fist bump or make some acknowledgment of respect. I just remember this being totally commonplace. If someone didn't do these things, they were quickly identified and generally either treated like a jerk and ostracized as such, or taken aside by someone and told the proper way to behave.
Now, online games have an entirely different code of conduct. Due to anonymity, obviously, people feel that they can be as rude and ill-mannered as they like and it's all consequence-free cruel trolling fun, I guess.
Wow, I didn't know about this. I won't consider that BM anymore.
On topic, squelch everyone. I'll admit that I'm sensitive to BM and get angry even when it's a "well played", unless I won. :P I've never had anyone add me after a game though. I've tried doing it to other people when I have a question about their deck, but no one's ever accepted it. Then again, I don't play casual, so maybe it's more common there.
This thread makes me curious if there is a different level of BM in various ranks. Obviously, the casual "rank" is hidden, but you probably have an idea of where you are on the win/loss scale there.
20-15 is usually fine, a few bad apples. I have noticed a sharp increase in BM around ranks 14-10. 10-6 is pretty chill. Haven't been past 6, so can't say anymore :p
For me, Casual is filled with more BM than not. I don't keep track of my casual win/loss but it's probably close to 50%.
I've also noticed, I receive a lot more BM when I'm playing as a (control) Priest or Paladin. I assume just because in those games I'm usually "behind" early game, but if I survive to mid-game, then it swings drastically in my favor, making it an emotional rollercoaster for them.
In my experience, I see the most BM coming out of Warriors and Druids.
I see the least BM from Rogues. I think it's because they're thinking so much about their turns they don't have time to BM. Haha. :p
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On an emotional level, it doesn't bother me. I have thick skin and I laugh at stupid rageadds.
What bothers me is for the health of the game. Hearthstone is a super casual game with a competitive aspect, but if the community becomes as bad as say, League of Legends or Dota2, then we have issues.
Number one thing I would love is a "you are squelched" notice.
What class do you play OP?
I typically enjoy the friendly/competitive banter back and fourth. There is a point where your spamming and just being rude or purposefully letting it rope every turn. But I highly enjoy when there is a close game, and a 'Sorry' after their good play, then Ill respond with 'Well played', and counter it, then they typically respond 'Well Played' too.
More often then not, (as long as you say 'Well Played' after their good plays and don't over emote) this kind of friendly taunting doesn't escalate to true BM. I have had quite a few add me (or vise-versa) after the game to only say GG or ask about a play in the game. Rarely does anyone rage. Its really just knowing how much is enough and being respectful.
I also generally never concede, if its a long game and hard won for them, I let em get the kill. I've met some ragers, but not enough to care. My guess is some of your are getting mad to easily and emote back in a hostile way which only causes them to escalate.
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible. - T. E. Lawrence
Class prejudices are an interesting thing, too. I think some of us are predisposed to really disliking certain classes.
Like I just *despise* Druid, which is a shame because I would otherwise like the class. But playing against them is just... I hate it. Arena or constructed, but my prejudice mostly stems from my Arena playing, and just having lost to one too many stupid goddamn Ironbark Protectors when I was a turn away from Lethal. It's annoyed me so much that it's gotten Pavlovian - I almost conceded a game before realizing I had a BGH in hand, once.
srsly. i squelch everybody, with the occasional exception of people that send a greeting on the first turn (and will squelch them as well if they send more emotes). i've only ever accepted one post-match friend request, and the dude started flaming about how i was such a noob (after he lost horribly to me) so i don't accept those anymore either. i doubt most of the people perpetrating these behaviors are participating in forums here though, with the possible exception of decklists (i would guess they're the ones talking about how much a deck sucks after using it for 3 games without winning).
I never accept friend requests from people who I don't actually know.
The only time I BM is when I get the person (usually a hunter warlock) that, when I take more than 10 seconds to take my turn, start spamming emotes.
My favorite is when I'm playing my warrior deck and I'm holding lethal in my hand (like Grommash/taskmaster) and slowly killing everything that comes out on the board without obviously trying to keep them alive. I always try to get the fatigue to kill them, but if I sense they may have a play to swing the advantage, I just end it.
This will probably make people even more salty than they are now.
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I have gotten 2 friend request from people in arena after I beat them and they both said good game and good luck. I have sent to 2 friend request from people who beat me and said good game and asked what their win/loss was. It was pretty close to mine. Just seeing if I was getting matched up with people who were the same level as me.
Once I had a shaman say "I'm Sorry" after he killed every minion. I was able to say I'm sorry after I killed him.
Here is what I find to be nice when playing
Greeting
If you take a long time and rope burns and you click end, a I'm sorry is nice.
Well played or thank you at the end
Maybe some, but maybe others actually think they're being "cool" & "talking trash", or even getting inside their opponents head... which actually (about the head thing) is probably true a bit. I hate to have someone spamming threats or hellos or anything else when I'm considering a play. That's generally when I squelch out of pure reflex. I think a generic message like "you've been squelched" might get through to the first set (the 2 2 cools) and maybe slow down the second set. If enough people did it. Plenty of people squelch now, but it loses it's value as a teaching aid if the squelchee doesn't know it's happened.
we are not amused....
(nothing upsets a delicate situation like a large explosion...)
I personally don't really care about most things people do. I played against a Zoolock who spammed "I greet you." all the time yesterday and I joined right in. Nothing wrong with a good greeting, right?
What really pisses me off though is when hunters wait forever to cast their lethal kill command. Like seriously if you have it you have it, just do it already.
As far as getting added by people post-match it's never happened to me before, but I've added others and they were all really nice to talk to.
Am i wrong to genuinely want to thank my noob opponent for giving me an easy win by making so many mistakes?
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It's the casual ios demographic. Nothing you can do about it aside from auto squelch every match.
Anything that you call BM, except for obvious stalling for unreasonable periods of time is not BM.
Does "Thank you" or "Well played" after your mistake really make your blood boil? Well, if you aren't 7 year old or didn't grow up in thug ghetto, where people kill for wrong words or inappropriate glance, than you are just a funny little self-affected person.