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Quote from mysticsnake >>

deck so good

doesn't care about taunts

<rolls eyes>

I lol'd pretty hard when someone said that this deck "isn't very good".

Quote from notfratbro >>

Quote from mysticsnake >>

deck so good

doesn't care about taunts

<rolls eyes>

 That's your fault for playing like an idiot an leaving up Leokk, which played right into Houndmaster. Not to mention, Leokk could have absolutely destroyed you with jugler+unleash. The point of the deck isn't to go face at all times, it's to go face and use spells to make favorable trades on minions that could potentially lead to losses. If you kill Leokk after he plays it on turn 3, you win.

Ok my two cents before anyone jumps on me for crying. This deck is rigged lol I am happy for the shamy trust but if this existed say for pally this thread would be packed with nerf complains/threats. I am all for a shamy top tier deck but to have aggro that can kill you on turn 6 with or without taunts is OP. Some argue that if they miss their mulligan the deck fails but two arguments 1. Even a none ideal draw still favors this deck 2. its an aggro deck games are quick so climb is real. Again from a class that needed most brains to even compete as a second tier now we got a face is the place face hunter on roids. And I aint even salty well maybe just a little : ) but I have both beaten it and played it. What you all think? Cheers.

What I have learnt. From reading this thread, is that the entire community is actually a braindead hive mind of trying to get a superior intelligence to make something easier for them instead of innovating ways to deal with it. It's been two weeks. The deck isn't hard to beat, and complaining about it:

A) is stupid

B) won't change anything.

C) is stupid.

and D) only highlights your inability to adapt to changing situations, which begs the question, how do you even play this game at all when there are different situations each time it flips back to your turn? Enough with the bitching and complaining. Let shaman have his time to shine, it's not as miserable to play against as paladin, and it's not as grindy as freeze Mage, so let shaman have his fun, and if 3 expansions from now he's still dominating *with the same deck* then fucking bitch and complain and hope they change it. Otherwise man the fuck up and either deal with it or wait out the storm by playing something else.

Quote from iambr >>

And yes , it's obviously better than face hunter. They don't care about your taunts or healing , they have so much burst , SO MUCH BURST , that they kill you so easily even with that.

After i still lost playing Healbot Farsir Reno in one game i think it should be nerfed guys

Well the main problem with aggro shaman are the spell that can target the face, Druid used to be overpowered early on the game because the spells could target the hero, shaman now can do pretty much the same and the effect plus trogg can snowball really fast , is common a aggro shaman on turn 6 finish u off while u have like 22 hp and that is kind insane if u ask me, of course there is some rng involved, with crackle and getting the spell power totem, but if u ask me they could nerf the lava spell and only being able to target minion, and reduce its cost to 2 and a overload of 2, that would seem fair, but beside that i dont see any need of nerf on the deck, is just annoying as hell, but face hunter also is and its not as near as overpowered as secret paladin and they are still there

Quote from Stokjeros >>

I am completely unsure how you can 'Nerf' a deck such as this.

Only by destroying one or 2 prime cards in the deck (maki9ng Shaman completely shit). How would you do that? To me the only way this is possible is by changing rockbiter to +2 (making the doomhammer combo less hard). Nerfing Doomhammer to having say 4 Cahrges instead of 8 (that one would not be too bad I guess and would stil make this a viable weapon, but only if you have the rockbiter in hand will it work. now you can cast doomhammer, keep doing face damage for the next 3-4 turns hoping to draw a rockbiter and seal the game.

All in all we all agree that on the perfect Curve there is not much to do against this deck. having said that, one deck needs to have the top spot in Aggro. same as that there is one Control deck that would be superior to others based on the perfect curv

A draw with few minions in the beginning makes it a tough challenge. Also, most often you trade and do not go face in the beginning so it is more versatile than the uber boring facehunter.

 

 

 

Tree of life seems cute xD

[thepoorguy] Turn1: ...

[shaman] Turn1: Trogg

[thepoorguy] Turn2: Nothing... he's unluck

[shaman] Turn2: Coin + Feral S. (3 damage from Trogg, total 3)

[thepoorguy] Turn3: Play something =D

[shaman] Turn3: L. Shock (3 damage + 4 from the Wolfs and +4 form the Trogg, total 3 + 11= 14)

[thepoorguy] Turn4: Plays something else, maybe a Piloted S. and trade in a Wolf

[shaman] Turn4: Lava Shock + Crackle (2 shock + [6 cause the guy is unluck] Crackle +5 trogg +2 Wolf, total 14 + 15 = 29)

THis is how the poor guy surrender at turn 5.

Sometimes YOU are the poor guy...

Unbelievable... I'm amazed. Since 2014 shaman was the worst class, useless and everyone complaining all the class cards sucks, now at a release of a 1-drop now every single class card is op? It blows my mind to see people here asking for doomhammer nerf.

For me its obvious this new Shamam deck will win in the first 5 turns, every single aggro does that (druid, paladin, hunter...). If an aggro deck is efficient, they need to do this.

For everyone complaining: Are you sure, with database, that after ONE WEEK after the release of the last wing of this adventure, this deck NEED to be nerfed?  Are you sure its not only salt after a loss, sure that dream hand always happens, sure this deck doesn't have a efficient counter at all?

If you are not sure, please stop complaining and open a threat asking for guidance to win against it.

Quote from iambr >>

This deck is clearly retarded. The burst is ridicolous. The fact is that when you use a deck to counter it , you just face a counter to your deck. That's just trash rng. The game is full of rng , and sometimes that's fun. 

And yes , it's obviously better than face hunter. They don't care about your taunts or healing , they have so much burst , SO MUCH BURST , that they kill you so easily even with that.

I'm running a Dragon Priest with two chows to counter it.

Another fact... i don't know if it's me but they always have the best hands. Like tunnel trogg into golem into coin feral spirit. That's broken. They should've done other archetype for shaman.

Another thing that annoys me is that it counters freeze mage badly. How can a aggro counter freeze mage? Don't consider Secret Paladin because it isn't even aggro. Yes , eboladin did that in the past but that deck is ridicolous. Eboladin needed to at least control the board a bit. The new one is just FACE FACE , CRACKLE , LIGHTNING BOLT , DOOMHAMMER + ROCKBITTER. Wow.

I was a Shammy Player , and now I regret that. Finley is a cool card. I don't blame the devs , but the retarded that made this deck. Fuck this guy and his small dick.

Quote from DragonConsort >>

Quote from iambr >>

This deck is clearly retarded. The burst is ridicolous. The fact is that when you use a deck to counter it , you just face a counter to your deck. That's just trash rng. The game is full of rng , and sometimes that's fun. 

And yes , it's obviously better than face hunter. They don't care about your taunts or healing , they have so much burst , SO MUCH BURST , that they kill you so easily even with that.

I'm running a Dragon Priest with two chows to counter it.

Another fact... i don't know if it's me but they always have the best hands. Like tunnel trogg into golem into coin feral spirit. That's broken. They should've done other archetype for shaman.

Another thing that annoys me is that it counters freeze mage badly. How can a aggro counter freeze mage? Don't consider Secret Paladin because it isn't even aggro. Yes , eboladin did that in the past but that deck is ridicolous. Eboladin needed to at least control the board a bit. The new one is just FACE FACE , CRACKLE , LIGHTNING BOLT , DOOMHAMMER + ROCKBITTER. Wow.

I was a Shammy Player , and now I regret that. Finley is a cool card. I don't blame the devs , but the retarded that made this deck. Fuck this guy and his small dick.

 Belongs in salt thread, like many of the posts here.  However seriously complaining about it countering freeze mage?  That is the most retarded, to use your language, deck ever created.  

Ahahahahahaha
Some people is sooooo funny!

Another whine tread about nothing.
OMG plz stop this.

Quote from rexracer >>

Unbelievable... I'm amazed. Since 2014 shaman was the worst class, useless and everyone complaining all the class cards sucks, now at a release of a 1-drop now every single class card is op? It blows my mind to see people here asking for doomhammer nerf.

For me its obvious this new Shamam deck will win in the first 5 turns, every single aggro does that (druid, paladin, hunter...). If an aggro deck is efficient, they need to do this.

For everyone complaining: Are you sure, with database, that after ONE WEEK after the release of the last wing of this adventure, this deck NEED to be nerfed?  Are you sure its not only salt after a loss, sure that dream hand always happens, sure this deck doesn't have a efficient counter at all?

If you are not sure, please stop complaining and open a threat asking for guidance to win against it.

 

I think we will be seeing big increase in popularity of Harrison and Acidic Swamp Ooze in tech slots.  That should definitely take a lot of the sting from the aggro shaman deck.

Quote from DFBwin >>

first it was "shaman worst class" now its "nerf aggro shaman"

guys you are annoying -.-

Quote from Falcon55 >>

Quote from DoctorDen_ >>

After i still lost playing Healbot Farsir Reno in one game i think it should be nerfed guys

 What? How? Unless Reno didn't proc, and you used Farseer to heal your opponent, I don't see how you can lose this game. There's only a finite amount of damage that a (lucky) Aggro Shaman can deal.