For those struggling against Aggro Shaman, my suggestion is to play a traditional Hybrid Hunter, which simply wrecks the deck no matter how perfect their card draw.
Mulligan for Mad Scientist and Explosive Trap. Try to guarantee yourself an Explosive Trap with Mad Scientist so don't put in too many other random secrets. Unleash the Hounds and Glaivezooka are also decent against the deck.
A little smart playing will wreck their early game (Tunnel Trogg + Totem Golem + Tunnel Trogg) and cost them a huge chunk of their board. If they don't have the perfect early game combo, just rush/face them down.
Of course, a problem with this matchup is that you will have to be playing Hunter, which isn't great in the meta.
The game design clearly rewards aggro. So don't blame people for playing them......blame the devs. They created this mess of a game where 99.99999% of cards don't see play and the remainder are aggro.
Also you guys saying it's not good, you clearly aren't playing against players who are good at managing overload/playing Shaman. Much like Patron, I'm sure you're seeing a ton of people playing the deck poorly from rank 20-10. Rank 5-legend, the deck has overtaken secret paladin in popularity and runs over most other decks.
That's the best thing this deck has ever done ^^
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There is no cancer deck in hearthstone ! You are the Cancer !
The game design clearly rewards aggro. So don't blame people for playing them......blame the devs. They created this mess of a game where 99.99999% of cards don't see play and the remainder are aggro.
P.S they won't nerf it anytime soon if ever.
Have to agree here. Hate the game,not the players. I still think it's out of control as far as decks go but we'll see. Just find it hilarious that Facehunter drove people to suicide but this deck, which is far worse hasn't yet. Give it time.
The game design clearly rewards aggro. So don't blame people for playing them......blame the devs. They created this mess of a game where 99.99999% of cards don't see play and the remainder are aggro.
P.S they won't nerf it anytime soon if ever.
Have to agree here. Hate the game,not the players. I still think it's out of control as far as decks go but we'll see. Just find it hilarious that Facehunter drove people to suicide but this deck, which is far worse hasn't yet. Give it time.
I'm with you I absolutely hate aggro. When 90% of the meta is hitting face its just no fun. Unfortunately the devs made some massive blunders at the design stage of Hearthstone and now its virtually impossible to stop aggro from dominating.
Couple that with the fact that the devs like f2p players to play aggro because its cheap. Then we have the problem we see now. Unfortunately we can't defend ourselves on the opponents turn like other card games on the market (MtG). No spell taunt is a massive problem and healing such as Reno is just a gimmick imo.
Sheesh, give shaman a break. Yes it has incredible burst but at a cost every turn. Overload limits what can be played most turns and a few taunts can slow you down early and it's over. It's a good deck but needs a fast start.
you can play around it if you add an ooze or harrison plus extra taunts or heals. Its not that much worse then face hunter the only difference is the doomhammer which is very overpowered with rockbiter. Leave shamans alone they have been in the dumpster for like forever,
so what about if shaman auto won turn 1? is the reasoning behind that being okay REALLY that they were in the dumpster so long that its only fair?I
how do they auto win turn one? If you have taunts healing and weapon removal in your deck you can beat them. If your deck is full of greedy late game cards and you have no removals yes you can lose badly but so is the case against a lot of decks
Jesus, every time there is anew aggro deck it is "10x worse" than the last one.
How people have the brain functionality to ladder while still retaining this mindset is a mystery to me.
I'd like to know how they measure it. What's "10x worse" than Face Hunter? Is there a number and measurement unit they use or is it just like facing 10 Face Hunters? Or is there maybe a scale where Face Hunter = 1.00, so 10x worse = 10.00 on the Aggro Hate Scale?
Jesus, every time there is anew aggro deck it is "10x worse" than the last one.
How people have the brain functionality to ladder while still retaining this mindset is a mystery to me.
I'd like to know how they measure it. What's "10x worse" than Face Hunter? Is there a number and measurement unit they use or is it just like facing 10 Face Hunters? Or is there maybe a scale where Face Hunter = 1.00, so 10x worse = 10.00 on the Aggro Hate Scale?
face hunters are often bringing only 1-2 ironbreak owl.
While aggro shaman is bringing earth shock and elemental destruction. Taunt is useless. Healbot is useless. Not even belcher can help.
If you don't draw Acidic Swamp Ooze or Harrison Jones, you are pretty much dead. And they run 2 Doomhammers,
If they don't draw doomhammer, they can draw burst spells. If they don't draw burst spells, they draw tunnel trogg, totem golem, argent horserider or abusive sergent.
Ancestral Knowledge even buffs tunnel trogg. And overload is nothing. They can use elemental destruction to clear your taunts and then lava shock your face.
Jesus, every time there is anew aggro deck it is "10x worse" than the last one.
How people have the brain functionality to ladder while still retaining this mindset is a mystery to me.
I'd like to know how they measure it. What's "10x worse" than Face Hunter? Is there a number and measurement unit they use or is it just like facing 10 Face Hunters? Or is there maybe a scale where Face Hunter = 1.00, so 10x worse = 10.00 on the Aggro Hate Scale?
face hunters are often bringing only 1-2 ironbreak owl.
While aggro shaman is bringing earth shock and elemental destruction. Taunt is useless. Healbot is useless. Not even belcher can help.
Elemental Destruction?In order to kill its own minions?It doesnt make sense
Not all but more of them are starting to run this card.
You can search on youtube to see xixo vs llfecoach and how useless is belcher.
you can play around it if you add an ooze or harrison plus extra taunts or heals. Its not that much worse then face hunter the only difference is the doomhammer which is very overpowered with rockbiter. Leave shamans alone they have been in the dumpster for like forever,
so what about if shaman auto won turn 1? is the reasoning behind that being okay REALLY that they were in the dumpster so long that its only fair?I
how do they auto win turn one? If you have taunts healing and weapon removal in your deck you can beat them. If your deck is full of greedy late game cards and you have no removals yes you can lose badly but so is the case against a lot of decks
..... lets not take things too literally. i wasnt being literal about a turn 1 win, i was basically saying, "so just because something has sucked for a long time, is it okay for it to be busted and unfun to play against now?"
my decks atm are by no means greedy. even my early/mid game focused priest deck loses to it a reasonable # of times, and you would think a deck with 4 1 drops, 4 2 drops and 3 drops that can completely give you board advantage along with the auch priest + circle would make it so you never lose to mindless decks, but if they get a good start, it really doesnt matter what you do. how is that fun to play against?
you can play around it if you add an ooze or harrison plus extra taunts or heals. Its not that much worse then face hunter the only difference is the doomhammer which is very overpowered with rockbiter. Leave shamans alone they have been in the dumpster for like forever,
so what about if shaman auto won turn 1? is the reasoning behind that being okay REALLY that they were in the dumpster so long that its only fair?I
how do they auto win turn one? If you have taunts healing and weapon removal in your deck you can beat them. If your deck is full of greedy late game cards and you have no removals yes you can lose badly but so is the case against a lot of decks
..... lets not take things too literally. i wasnt being literal about a turn 1 win, i was basically saying, "so just because something has sucked for a long time, is it okay for it to be busted and unfun to play against now?"
my decks atm are by no means greedy. even my early/mid game focused priest deck loses to it a reasonable # of times, and you would think a deck with 4 1 drops, 4 2 drops and 3 drops that can completely give you board advantage along with the auch priest + circle would make it so you never lose to mindless decks, but if they get a good start, it really doesnt matter what you do. how is that fun to play against?
priest is not winning against many classes... and against opponent with perfect hand, any class will lose too....
This deck is clearly retarded. The burst is ridicolous. The fact is that when you use a deck to counter it , you just face a counter to your deck. That's just trash rng. The game is full of rng , and sometimes that's fun.
And yes , it's obviously better than face hunter. They don't care about your taunts or healing , they have so much burst , SO MUCH BURST , that they kill you so easily even with that.
I'm running a Dragon Priest with two chows to counter it.
Another fact... i don't know if it's me but they always have the best hands. Like tunnel trogg into golem into coin feral spirit. That's broken. They should've done other archetype for shaman.
Another thing that annoys me is that it counters freeze mage badly. How can a aggro counter freeze mage? Don't consider Secret Paladin because it isn't even aggro. Yes , eboladin did that in the past but that deck is ridicolous. Eboladin needed to at least control the board a bit. The new one is just FACE FACE , CRACKLE , LIGHTNING BOLT , DOOMHAMMER + ROCKBITTER. Wow.
I was a Shammy Player , and now I regret that. Finley is a cool card. I don't blame the devs , but the retarded that made this deck. Fuck this guy and his small dick.
For those struggling against Aggro Shaman, my suggestion is to play a traditional Hybrid Hunter, which simply wrecks the deck no matter how perfect their card draw.
Mulligan for Mad Scientist and Explosive Trap. Try to guarantee yourself an Explosive Trap with Mad Scientist so don't put in too many other random secrets. Unleash the Hounds and Glaivezooka are also decent against the deck.
A little smart playing will wreck their early game (Tunnel Trogg + Totem Golem + Tunnel Trogg) and cost them a huge chunk of their board. If they don't have the perfect early game combo, just rush/face them down.
Of course, a problem with this matchup is that you will have to be playing Hunter, which isn't great in the meta.
The game design clearly rewards aggro. So don't blame people for playing them......blame the devs. They created this mess of a game where 99.99999% of cards don't see play and the remainder are aggro.
P.S they won't nerf it anytime soon if ever.
There is no cancer deck in hearthstone ! You are the Cancer !
I win due to skill and lose due to bad RNG. :D
First they cry about paladin, now they cry about shaman. Both decks are completely beatable and isn't an auto-loss.
Just smh
Sheesh, give shaman a break. Yes it has incredible burst but at a cost every turn. Overload limits what can be played most turns and a few taunts can slow you down early and it's over. It's a good deck but needs a fast start.
Quoth the raven...
Jesus, every time there is anew aggro deck it is "10x worse" than the last one.
How people have the brain functionality to ladder while still retaining this mindset is a mystery to me.
I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
Acidic Swamp Ooze
If they don't draw doomhammer, they can draw burst spells. If they don't draw burst spells, they draw tunnel trogg, totem golem, argent horserider or abusive sergent.
Ancestral Knowledge even buffs tunnel trogg. And overload is nothing. They can use elemental destruction to clear your taunts and then lava shock your face.
Not all but more of them are starting to run this card.
You can search on youtube to see xixo vs llfecoach and how useless is belcher.
my decks atm are by no means greedy. even my early/mid game focused priest deck loses to it a reasonable # of times, and you would think a deck with 4 1 drops, 4 2 drops and 3 drops that can completely give you board advantage along with the auch priest + circle would make it so you never lose to mindless decks, but if they get a good start, it really doesnt matter what you do. how is that fun to play against?
This deck is clearly retarded. The burst is ridicolous. The fact is that when you use a deck to counter it , you just face a counter to your deck. That's just trash rng. The game is full of rng , and sometimes that's fun.
And yes , it's obviously better than face hunter. They don't care about your taunts or healing , they have so much burst , SO MUCH BURST , that they kill you so easily even with that.
I'm running a Dragon Priest with two chows to counter it.
Another fact... i don't know if it's me but they always have the best hands. Like tunnel trogg into golem into coin feral spirit. That's broken. They should've done other archetype for shaman.
Another thing that annoys me is that it counters freeze mage badly. How can a aggro counter freeze mage? Don't consider Secret Paladin because it isn't even aggro. Yes , eboladin did that in the past but that deck is ridicolous. Eboladin needed to at least control the board a bit. The new one is just FACE FACE , CRACKLE , LIGHTNING BOLT , DOOMHAMMER + ROCKBITTER. Wow.
I was a Shammy Player , and now I regret that. Finley is a cool card. I don't blame the devs , but the retarded that made this deck. Fuck this guy and his small dick.
Aggro shaman is perfectly balanced, it requires no tuning down. All the above tears, are unnecessary.
deck so good
doesn't care about taunts
<rolls eyes>
Its fangs are in your flesh before its hiss leaves your ears.
Golden Heroes: Druid -> Rogue -> Shaman -> Hunter -> Warlock