Got to rank 4 three days ago with Midrange Paladin and i thought i would have a chance to reach Legend this season. But everything suddenly went wrong and i'm sitting at 8 now. There are so many Entomb Priest at the ladder and they are giving me a really hard time. And everytime i switch to Druid, i face a lot of aggros with perfect curve. And now i'm sitting asking myself what i have I done to the RNGesus.
I think the deck can have few changes, like rhonin is a super slow card, same with thaurissan on tempo mage, with tempo mage u want to apply pressure on your opponnent and snowball the game with your flamewaker and spells, also flame strike while being good for freeze mage, on tempo mage is just a huge tempo loss, and u will give your opponnent a full turn to develop their board, is very rare the situation were u use flamestrike and still can win the game
How about you just quit the game? It solves all your problems. No need for keeping up with gold and you dont have to whine about every game you lose.
So this game may be luck and randomness and therefor isn`t something for you. Go find another game you can actually enjoy but why raging so hard about a f2p card game?
1. Quitting isn't a good option.
2. Luck and randomness is ok provided it doesn't constitute the majority of the result.
3. The game isn't f2p for me. In fact it's because of people like me that games of this sort this can even exist in the first place.
I rarely post but have been reading these forums for a while and thought Ray's posts were finished!
I share some of your frustrations but the one thing I find a little strange is that all of your posts appear to aggressively suggest that all of your plays are 100 percent perfect. With the greatest respect, I suspect this is not the case.
What is frustrating is that there are simply some games where the outcome is decided for you regardless of what you do - generally the glut of hyper Agro sheep playing the new fashionable deck (I'm looking at you egg Druid and overload shaman!) BUT there are a lot of games (even against those decks) where you will likely find you could have played differently and perhaps won.
I haven't hit legend yet but have made rank 2 and fairly consistently hit rank 5 whereas 6 months ago that wasn't the case. If it was all totally random my results wouldn't have improved consistently...
The above being said, I agree that the difference between a good player and a great player is down to too few decision differences per game, although that's inherent in the simplicity of the mechanics (as opposed to, say, Mtg)
TL DR - game has perhaps a little more rng than it should but insisting you can not be at fault at all and blaming rng for every loss makes you look a little arrogant and will stop you improving.
In other news - how do I smash that overload shaman deck into the ground? It's winding me up!
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If you'll notice The shaman has a lot of early 3 health stuff. I think a deck with several early 3 dmg options is best. Rogue, midrange hunter, possibly warrior and warlock. I see this deck so much that I constructed an oil rogue deck specifically to beat it. Even using deathloards for early defence. It's going very well. Havn't lost with that deck yet to aggro shaman. I did lose to a midrange shaman tho. Currently playing at rank 4. Was 3. I swear, try to play rogue and find the only two warriors on ladder.
Patron's doing pretty well at the moment I'm finding. I think as its become rarer since the nerf people have become pretty bad at the matchup. I was playing mid range druid for a while, but I just ran into so much aggro that patron seemed to make a lot of sense. Haven't had the time to play a ton, hopefully I'll make up some ground and make it to the 5 - legend grind by the weekend.
I am stuck at rank 8 and I'm only missing one win before I reach rank 7, but everytime I reach rank 8 and 5 stars I always meet a class that can counter my heroclass easy. The opponent has also Rngesus with him that game... It's like I'm almost blaming blizzard for match fixing or something. I reached rank 8 the 3rd of december and been stuck at it ever since... any tips for an eternal rank 8 player?
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In other news - how do I smash that overload shaman deck into the ground? It's winding me up!
If you'll notice The shaman has a lot of early 3 health stuff. I think a deck with several early 3 dmg options is best. Rogue, midrange hunter, possibly warrior and warlock. I see this deck so much that I constructed an oil rogue deck specifically to beat it. Even using deathloards for early defence. It's going very well. Havn't lost with that deck yet to aggro shaman. I did lose to a midrange shaman tho. Currently playing at rank 4. Was 3. I swear, try to play rogue and find the only two warriors on ladder.
I've been playing Midrange Hunter a lot this season and it can indeed handle Aggro Shaman quite nicely (as Joe suggested it might). It's not a total rollover though, the Aggro Shaman often goes out with one final burst of 20ish damage, but generally I survive and win with a few health points left. 80%+ win rate against Aggro Shaman so far (63% overall), but I might be a bit behind the curve as I'm only rank 6 at the moment, so maybe better shaman players can handle it.
Hit rank 5 today, going strong with Double Combo Druid. My winrate is 64,5% atm, I am 11-4 against secret pallys. Hope im gonna hit legend this month for the first time, gonna TriHard i guess.
Here's the age old question. Since this game is basically all luck, how do you ladder without wanting to smash something? Do you just "play for fun" and not care since what you do has no impact whatsoever? although this seems to go against playing in a competitive ladder where the idea by definition is to win games. The other option is to sit there, plan, strategise, plan, think, calculate, predict, plan, anticipate and generally kid yourself into believing that any of this makes the slightest bit of difference, and then feel massively aggrieved to the point throwing of your monitor out the window when your opponent just happens to have every card he needs all the time.
In a game that is basically pseudo-strategy (i.e. the appearance of there being strategy when the result is entirely determined by luck) which is the best way of going about playing this nonsense. I'd be interested to hear what people think since both approaches seem equally ridiculous in my mind.
Regardless if I win or lose I always think "what was the probability that I won or lost that game given the winning/losing situation".
Having that approach to the game will give you a sense of more control and you won't think of it as "luck".
Using "probabilities" instead of "luck" will give you the tools to analyze, improve and increase the amount of times you are "lucky".
Believe or not, sometimes when I win I feel "fuck, that was really bad played" because I realize that I misplayed and just got lucky with the win.
Also I can feel really good about myself going through I game I just lost realizing "yup, I did the best I could do in each turn and I couldn't stop my opponent from winning".
I'm happy with my performance when I think of my moves and realize I have made good decisions in each turn.
Consistently hit Rank 3 last 4 seasons, with the new aggro archetypes popping up I'm unlikely to see my goal this season. If you are at 25 hp on turn 7 vs shaman and lose with taunt up, you kinda just get tilted. That being said, I would say control warrior could be in a good place if double brawl doesn't rng poorly. I almost want to try patron though since it could help me fight the aggros with wws and early creatures. I wish the best of luck to you guys, however my mid range druid, and control warrior are facing staunch walls around rank 7.
I've been no worse than rank 3 for the last 5 seasons, but i've never made the summit to legend.... I'm hoping the christmas break will finally give me the time needed to push for it. Waiting to see how the final wing will affect the meta, but currently enjoying playing control priest.
I'm trying to focus in and make my control warrior deck (40% win rate #forever tilted) attempt to combat the meta right now and due to the sheer amount of aggro decks I have switched to Patron which I'm not experienced at all and win around 60% of the time.
Once I get my Golden Uther probably going to try out Patron or go with the tried and true Combo druid with Sir Finley. Played a few games on ladder with it for a quest and had some great games and a winstreak. Just got Legend my first time last season, so no guarantees of a repeat haha
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Casual HS player - Achieved Legend in November 2015 and August 2016
Got to Rank 10 (my best ever) then tilted down to 14 playing Oil Rogue. I know its a top tier deck, but I honestly think you need to suck it up for 2-3 seasons to get good at it.
I have better win rates with other decks; but Oil is probably the funnest and most frustrating. I think if I just stuck with one of the more solid decks I could get to 5.....
Got to Rank 10 (my best ever) then tilted down to 14 playing Oil Rogue. I know its a top tier deck, but I honestly think you need to suck it up for 2-3 seasons to get good at it.
I have better win rates with other decks; but Oil is probably the funnest and most frustrating. I think if I just stuck with one of the more solid decks I could get to 5.....
There are pretty much 2 aspects to rogue that probably make it the hardest class to pilot. The mulligans are wildly different depending on the matchup, and they matter way more than other classes, because you really need your cards to work together. The other thing is that rogue has some very bad matchups, that if you aren't good at managing will send your win rate into the toilet. A beginner will probably lose like close to 100% of the time vs. Face hunter and Warrior, and those match ups will just seem hopeless, and you're just not climbing the ladder like that. Eventually you'll get to a point where those match ups, while still negative, will be a lot closer, and won't be the concrete wall on your climb that they used to be. And at the end of the learning curve, Rogue really is one of the most fun and satisfying decks to play well.
Got to Rank 10 (my best ever) then tilted down to 14 playing Oil Rogue. I know its a top tier deck, but I honestly think you need to suck it up for 2-3 seasons to get good at it.
I have better win rates with other decks; but Oil is probably the funnest and most frustrating. I think if I just stuck with one of the more solid decks I could get to 5.....
There are pretty much 2 aspects to rogue that probably make it the hardest class to pilot. The mulligans are wildly different depending on the matchup, and they matter way more than other classes, because you really need your cards to work together. The other thing is that rogue has some very bad matchups, that if you aren't good at managing will send your win rate into the toilet. A beginner will probably lose like close to 100% of the time vs. Face hunter and Warrior, and those match ups will just seem hopeless, and you're just not climbing the ladder like that. Eventually you'll get to a point where those match ups, while still negative, will be a lot closer, and won't be the concrete wall on your climb that they used to be. And at the end of the learning curve, Rogue really is one of the most fun and satisfying decks to play well.
I just watched Stancifka playing rogue, he is a great player, but still he was struggling with it. Personally think when a deck needs a specialist to pilot successfully, then it is a weak deck. I mean when pro players struggle with something, I would not bother myself to try.
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Got to rank 4 three days ago with Midrange Paladin and i thought i would have a chance to reach Legend this season. But everything suddenly went wrong and i'm sitting at 8 now. There are so many Entomb Priest at the ladder and they are giving me a really hard time. And everytime i switch to Druid, i face a lot of aggros with perfect curve. And now i'm sitting asking myself what i have I done to the RNGesus.
Could this deck works? I'm rank 14 yet, I didn't play a lot this season, but I want to test it.
I think the deck can have few changes, like rhonin is a super slow card, same with thaurissan on tempo mage, with tempo mage u want to apply pressure on your opponnent and snowball the game with your flamewaker and spells, also flame strike while being good for freeze mage, on tempo mage is just a huge tempo loss, and u will give your opponnent a full turn to develop their board, is very rare the situation were u use flamestrike and still can win the game
Patron's doing pretty well at the moment I'm finding. I think as its become rarer since the nerf people have become pretty bad at the matchup. I was playing mid range druid for a while, but I just ran into so much aggro that patron seemed to make a lot of sense. Haven't had the time to play a ton, hopefully I'll make up some ground and make it to the 5 - legend grind by the weekend.
I am stuck at rank 8 and I'm only missing one win before I reach rank 7, but everytime I reach rank 8 and 5 stars I always meet a class that can counter my heroclass easy. The opponent has also Rngesus with him that game... It's like I'm almost blaming blizzard for match fixing or something. I reached rank 8 the 3rd of december and been stuck at it ever since... any tips for an eternal rank 8 player?
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Would you share your decks?
And what about Control Priest? Is it a good deck now?
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Hit rank 5 today, going strong with Double Combo Druid. My winrate is 64,5% atm, I am 11-4 against secret pallys. Hope im gonna hit legend this month for the first time, gonna TriHard i guess.
Consistently hit Rank 3 last 4 seasons, with the new aggro archetypes popping up I'm unlikely to see my goal this season. If you are at 25 hp on turn 7 vs shaman and lose with taunt up, you kinda just get tilted. That being said, I would say control warrior could be in a good place if double brawl doesn't rng poorly. I almost want to try patron though since it could help me fight the aggros with wws and early creatures. I wish the best of luck to you guys, however my mid range druid, and control warrior are facing staunch walls around rank 7.
I've been no worse than rank 3 for the last 5 seasons, but i've never made the summit to legend.... I'm hoping the christmas break will finally give me the time needed to push for it. Waiting to see how the final wing will affect the meta, but currently enjoying playing control priest.
Entomb is arguably more aggravating to me then milling whenever I'm mid range, but hey to each their own poison.
I'm trying to focus in and make my control warrior deck (40% win rate #forever tilted) attempt to combat the meta right now and due to the sheer amount of aggro decks I have switched to Patron which I'm not experienced at all and win around 60% of the time.
Once I get my Golden Uther probably going to try out Patron or go with the tried and true Combo druid with Sir Finley. Played a few games on ladder with it for a quest and had some great games and a winstreak. Just got Legend my first time last season, so no guarantees of a repeat haha
Casual HS player - Achieved Legend in November 2015 and August 2016
Got to Rank 10 (my best ever) then tilted down to 14 playing Oil Rogue. I know its a top tier deck, but I honestly think you need to suck it up for 2-3 seasons to get good at it.
I have better win rates with other decks; but Oil is probably the funnest and most frustrating. I think if I just stuck with one of the more solid decks I could get to 5.....