I don't think I would brave face hunter on ladder right now.
sometimes a healbot allowed opponents to stabalize let alone FULL health.
he however, is not as good against other slow building decks who have the plan to overpower you and dont get aggressive until they have worked their way into a pretty big lead.
Not only is Reno my favorite card in the wing, not only is he the best card in this adventure, not only is he the best card in any of the adventures, not only is he the best card in any expansion of any kind, but he is my all-time favorite card in this game.
As a Commander/EDH MtG player (by far my favorite MtG format) this card was made for me an those like me.
And he bitch-slaps Face HunTARDS. That alone makes me love him.
Thank you, Blizz! I might now actually give you real $ for the first time since D3 game out :-)
Sorry, but Mad Scientist is better card than Reno and takes the #1 spot.
Perhaps for you. In my new meta he doesn't even make the cut in my Reno decks, so he's not even top 30 now.
When you say he doesn't make the cut, you do mean in decks that utilise both Reno and Mad scientist effectively right? However, the only deck that confides is freeze mage in which Mad scientist is better.
I'm saying that I'm not playing MS in ANY of my current decks, whereas I'm playing Reno in many. Therefore, MS hardly "takes the #1 spot".
Your original post stated that he was the best card, so your poor wording led to this confusion.
Not poor wording, I stand by it. For me, currently, Reno is the best card in the game. He might not be for you.
Huh? It was poor wording because you didn't specify 'for me' in your original post, which implies that you meant that he was objectively the best card. However, you did say he was your favorite but favorite is the same as the best.
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I think nobody was very excited because we didn't know that the Discover "R" NG is biased towards class cards on purpose. Otherwise it would have been just another trash mechanic.
I was very excited and called it from the beginning, as always.
Draw cards = good. Players tend to be overly dismissive of anything that involves RNG.
Though I was/am concerned about the increasing power level from this Adventure. We haven't had many cost efficient cantrips before.
Not only is Reno my favorite card in the wing, not only is he the best card in this adventure, not only is he the best card in any of the adventures, not only is he the best card in any expansion of any kind, but he is my all-time favorite card in this game.
As a Commander/EDH MtG player (by far my favorite MtG format) this card was made for me an those like me.
And he bitch-slaps Face HunTARDS. That alone makes me love him.
Thank you, Blizz! I might now actually give you real $ for the first time since D3 game out :-)
Sorry, but Mad Scientist is better card than Reno and takes the #1 spot.
Perhaps for you. In my new meta he doesn't even make the cut in my Reno decks, so he's not even top 30 now.
When you say he doesn't make the cut, you do mean in decks that utilise both Reno and Mad scientist effectively right? However, the only deck that confides is freeze mage in which Mad scientist is better.
I'm saying that I'm not playing MS in ANY of my current decks, whereas I'm playing Reno in many. Therefore, MS hardly "takes the #1 spot".
Your original post stated that he was the best card, so your poor wording led to this confusion.
Not poor wording, I stand by it. For me, currently, Reno is the best card in the game. He might not be for you.
Huh? It was poor wording because you didn't specify 'for me' in your original post, which implies that you meant that he was objectively the best card. However, you did say he was your favorite but favorite is the same as the best.
My favourite card is: V-07-TRON. No way he's the best card in the game.
Couldn't agree more. LOE is my favorite adventure and this is after only the first week. Imagine when we get the rest of the cards (can't wait for Arch-Thief Rafaam and the British Murloc)
Also even things like Elise Starseeker may be incredibly powerful because by the end of the game when both players have run out of all there removal it's incredibly powerful to be able to turn all of those useless Shield Blocks and Brawls that you can't use in the control mirror into actual cards.
I've had many games as control Warrior when towards the end of the deck when fatigue was at the door i got stuck with card draw in my hand and replacing those with legendaries would've been sensational.
Also even things like Elise Starseeker may be incredibly powerful because by the end of the game when both players have run out of all there removal it's incredibly powerful to be able to turn all of those useless Shield Blocks and Brawls that you can't use in the control mirror into actual cards.
I've had many games as control Warrior when towards the end of the deck when fatigue was at the door i got stuck with card draw in my hand and replacing those with legendaries would've been sensational.
Yep this is one of the only real good uses of Elise Starseeker. Mid game, you'd rather have your carefully selected cards to draw from but at the end of a game thats about to fatigue out, all that changes. Keep in mind, you can actually play Elise Starseeker early in the game as a generic 3-5, as long as you keep the Golden Monkey until he's the logical play to make. I'll make use of Elise Starseeker for sure.
Reno Jackson has single handedly changed the meta and I think it's the first time I've ever said that about a single card in a good way. So many fun games that don't end before turn 10. Hope the rest of LOE doesn't change that and death rattle rogue isn't even out yet which even if it doesn't become viable seems awesome since it's a whole new archetype for a class that has basically disappeared from the game.
Oh really? Rogue is an auto-pic for me in Arena ;)
Reno Jackson humiliates Face-Hunter so hard... thats just awesome!
I wouldnt be suprised, if Face-Decks are gone in few weeks.
Nah, face decks still win when Reno isnt drawn. Ive had midrange (which basically is SMOrc with bigger minions) destroy me even after i played Reno. As it always has been, the real problem is this: After you play a life saving heal you also have to stabilize the board. Playing Reno Jackson in a losing position often just delays the inevitable if you dont also regain board control after playing Reno.
Reno Jackson makes life easier on control decks, its true. But to Blizzards credit, he does not make deck types extinct. That is good design imo.
Also even things like Elise Starseeker may be incredibly powerful because by the end of the game when both players have run out of all there removal it's incredibly powerful to be able to turn all of those useless Shield Blocks and Brawls that you can't use in the control mirror into actual cards.
I've had many games as control Warrior when towards the end of the deck when fatigue was at the door i got stuck with card draw in my hand and replacing those with legendaries would've been sensational.
Exactly! Plus shuffling the Golden Monkey into your deck takes you further from fatigue by 1 card.
Hold on Guys... i'd like to remined you that all this is only the aftermath of 1 legendary and 2 discover cards ... just you wait untill we get the rest of the discover cards .. the battlecry legendary... the murloc legendary and above all.. Elise Starseeker .. the queen of control/fatigue match ups (Reno Jackson being the king)
I'm already enjoying this adventure/expansion more than I did the grand tournament. The Discover mechanic is so much fun. It adds variety and choices to the classes, making sure that every game feels different in a way. Looking forward in particular to Tomb Spider, Unearthed Raptor, Ethereal Conjurer and Bronzebeard tonight.
your list of cards is the same as mine but i got 1 extra card .. Elise Starseeker ... imagine this in the really long games we usually encounter alot these days .. and also the murloc legendary is pretty damn good
Couldn't agree more. LOE is my favorite adventure and this is after only the first week. Imagine when we get the rest of the cards (can't wait for Arch-Thief Rafaam and the British Murloc)
i lost it when i saw " The british murloc " XD
also glad to see someone's sharing my enthusiasm for Arch-Thief Rafaam..like Nefarian ... on paper he's pretty damn slow ..dies to bgh .. but in practice i think he'll turn out to be a very good legendary.. especially in this slowed down meta
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I don't think I would brave face hunter on ladder right now.
sometimes a healbot allowed opponents to stabalize let alone FULL health.
he however, is not as good against other slow building decks who have the plan to overpower you and dont get aggressive until they have worked their way into a pretty big lead.
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Couldn't agree more. LOE is my favorite adventure and this is after only the first week. Imagine when we get the rest of the cards (can't wait for Arch-Thief Rafaam and the British Murloc)
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If face decks would perish people will start bitching about thousands mill/fatigue decks.
Face decks are a must for healthy meta. I would be really sad if rush decks will die out completely. It's as bad as having ONLY rush decks on ladder.
Great post, I'm glad this expansion is proving wrong so many people that were doubtful and bitter toward the game.
Hold on Guys... i'd like to remined you that all this is only the aftermath of 1 legendary and 2 discover cards ... just you wait untill we get the rest of the discover cards .. the battlecry legendary... the murloc legendary and above all.. Elise Starseeker .. the queen of control/fatigue match ups (Reno Jackson being the king)
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