This nerf was a long time coming. Let's be honest if the patron deck only worked because of this 1 card... The deck wasn't actually "strong" on it's own. Commander carried the deck and needed to be taken down a peg.
Damn, if this doesn't completely nuke the deck out of existence. Couldn't they have found another way to slightly make the otk combo more difficult? Make the warsong a 2/2 and have it only give charge if it is alive, which prevents double whirlwind effects from OTKing people.
Because I'm sure Blizzard wanted an easy way to nerf, rather than thinking of different ways to do so haha lazy is the way at Blizzard it seems!
Blizzard really don't do subtlety with their nerfs do they? I think that their desire to make as few changes as possible makes them reluctant to make smaller changes which might need further tweaks in the future, so they just go all out and render cards unplayable. But this is even more severe than previous changes which at least provided some avenue for nerfed decks to exist. You can still technically play miracle rogue with 6 mana Auctioneer and 5 mana Leeroy. This...it just completely guts Patron Warrior. Which is, despite being OP, a fun deck which requires a lot of talent. They could have made it so that the charge effect cancels out if a minion gains more than 3 attack.
Additionally, if they were really set on going down this route, could they not have made Warsong now cost 2 mana? That way it would at least be in line with other two drops in its own way and one day a charge deck might use it.
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I've never been a fan of patron, but I was happy that it kept agro decks in check. I won't miss patron, but I am going to really hate the agro meta that is going to follow it.
Lol, and all the patron players come out with torches and pitchforks. But if this was Mysterious Challenger, getting nerfed the patron players would say nothing about it.
The balanced change would have just to change it to "your minions with 3 or less attack have charge" that way the frothings would lose charge once they become 24/1's. Tons of people had been saying this and I'm surprised that blizzard decided to totally change the card into a shitty raid leader.
I've never been a fan of patron, but I was happy that it kept agro decks in check. I won't miss patron, but I am going to really hate the agro meta that is going to follow it.
The thing is, I don't see that many Patron decks on the ladder tho. Maybe at the Legend ranks, but it has been a while since I faced a Patron Warrior
Lol, I hate Patron Warrior OTK as much as the next guy, but this was NOT the way to go about it. If Starving Buzzard has taught us anything, its that nerfing a card into oblivion doesn't really help. Sure the deck that was dominant won't be a problem anymore, but now Patrons and Berserkers won't see play period. I would of preferred a nerf to Berserker's effect, so that the OTK potential was lowered, but considering they hate burst damage that happens in one turn, I guess I can see why they changed it. We can only hope now that they give warrior new tools to make use of this new warsong card, because right now, its just like Fist of Jaraxxus; a push in an interesting direction, but not enough tools exist to make it work.
In the meantime, I'll be playing far more mid range pally in the future bc of this. WOO HOO!
Blizzard is retarded but w/e. i could have cared less about patron war its this secret pally thats Fucking OP and needs a nerf.
Secret pally isn't played in tournaments though, only on ladder. Patron on the other hand is played ladder, Tournaments, and even at your grandma's funeral. Now it gets a nice funeral of it's own. Burn in hell patron!
I think this was a brilliant nerf. Warsong was poorly designed for future expansions. It limited new card ideas more than any other patron card. This nerf even influences a few new future warrior deck ideas. Sorry, but killing patron helped long term game health.
Blizzard is retarded but w/e. i could have cared less about patron war its this secret pally thats Fucking OP and needs a nerf.
Secret pally isn't played in tournaments though, only on ladder. Patron on the other hand is played ladder, Tournaments, and even at your grandma's funeral. Now it gets a nice funeral of it's own. Burn in hell patron!
Elise played Secret Pally against Lifecoach in a tournament stream.
And I'm pretty sure I saw Trump, or someone facing Trump play it.
Wow, huge buff to Alexstrasza's Champion!
Keep calm and use your hero power
This nerf was a long time coming. Let's be honest if the patron deck only worked because of this 1 card... The deck wasn't actually "strong" on it's own. Commander carried the deck and needed to be taken down a peg.
Should probably bring her Mana Cost down to 2 if they're doing this though.
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Because I'm sure Blizzard wanted an easy way to nerf, rather than thinking of different ways to do so haha lazy is the way at Blizzard it seems!
Blizzard really don't do subtlety with their nerfs do they? I think that their desire to make as few changes as possible makes them reluctant to make smaller changes which might need further tweaks in the future, so they just go all out and render cards unplayable. But this is even more severe than previous changes which at least provided some avenue for nerfed decks to exist. You can still technically play miracle rogue with 6 mana Auctioneer and 5 mana Leeroy. This...it just completely guts Patron Warrior. Which is, despite being OP, a fun deck which requires a lot of talent. They could have made it so that the charge effect cancels out if a minion gains more than 3 attack.
Additionally, if they were really set on going down this route, could they not have made Warsong now cost 2 mana? That way it would at least be in line with other two drops in its own way and one day a charge deck might use it.
Blizzard is retarded but w/e. i could have cared less about patron war its this secret pally thats Fucking OP and needs a nerf.
I've never been a fan of patron, but I was happy that it kept agro decks in check. I won't miss patron, but I am going to really hate the agro meta that is going to follow it.
I've seen like two people unhappy (including me).
I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
Lol, and all the patron players come out with torches and pitchforks. But if this was Mysterious Challenger, getting nerfed the patron players would say nothing about it.
Get wreckt patron scrubs!
The balanced change would have just to change it to "your minions with 3 or less attack have charge" that way the frothings would lose charge once they become 24/1's. Tons of people had been saying this and I'm surprised that blizzard decided to totally change the card into a shitty raid leader.
I see that this man has the memory of a goldfish.
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Blizzard: "Hey everyone! We finally fixed that Op deck you were all raging about! Hello? Anyone There?"
This.
I really would have preferred a Mysterious Challenger nerf, but hey a victory is a victory.
The OTK Frothing Berserker combo is tiring as hell, not really all that common since Control Warrior is super popular.
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The thing is, I don't see that many Patron decks on the ladder tho. Maybe at the Legend ranks, but it has been a while since I faced a Patron Warrior
Lol, I hate Patron Warrior OTK as much as the next guy, but this was NOT the way to go about it. If Starving Buzzard has taught us anything, its that nerfing a card into oblivion doesn't really help. Sure the deck that was dominant won't be a problem anymore, but now Patrons and Berserkers won't see play period. I would of preferred a nerf to Berserker's effect, so that the OTK potential was lowered, but considering they hate burst damage that happens in one turn, I guess I can see why they changed it. We can only hope now that they give warrior new tools to make use of this new warsong card, because right now, its just like Fist of Jaraxxus; a push in an interesting direction, but not enough tools exist to make it work.
In the meantime, I'll be playing far more mid range pally in the future bc of this. WOO HOO!
Secret pally isn't played in tournaments though, only on ladder. Patron on the other hand is played ladder, Tournaments, and even at your grandma's funeral. Now it gets a nice funeral of it's own. Burn in hell patron!
Well thats a way to kill a deck. Imho the cardtext shold have read: Give a minion charge while it has 3 or less attack!
-> no more otk with frothing and a slight nerf to Inner Rage, but I think patron would still have been viable ... now it will probably be way to weak.
AND why the heck are they not nerfing Dr. Balanced? I am so sick of seeing him in every single deck! Blizzard pls!
I think this was a brilliant nerf. Warsong was poorly designed for future expansions. It limited new card ideas more than any other patron card. This nerf even influences a few new future warrior deck ideas. Sorry, but killing patron helped long term game health.
Elise played Secret Pally against Lifecoach in a tournament stream.
And I'm pretty sure I saw Trump, or someone facing Trump play it.
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