Btw... brace yourselfs! I predict that quite a lot of patron players will migrate to Secter Cancer Paladin deck. Just because its op. They nerf our op deck? We migrate to another!
Seriously, very bad change. Its not nerf, its completly bs. Same with buzzard. They could as well just delete card from the game.
I feel like I'm pretty used to Blizzard taking an easy way out as well, especially given all the bad examples that we have in HS. I just still keep the hope alive that they will finally start getting better with balancing after so many years of experience. And by balancing I mean either a good and proper initial QA testing or at least timely response within a few months (and not an entire year).
Let's hope next Adventure/Expansion will actually be good and steer the game towards innovation and variety that they strive to achieve so much. According to Ben Brode "TGT was the best thing Blizzard ever did with HS". I sincerely hope the game keeps becoming better and better in the future.
So, instead of addressing the brokeness of the combo of this with Patron and Frothing Berserker...they just completely butcher the thing and turn it into a very situational Raid leader, taking a bunch of other Warrior cards along with it.
None of those cards force the designers to design all future cards around them. (Well maybe MC, but you can only make a 1-mana Secret so powerful anyways).
Lost in the Grim Patron discussion of Warsong Commander nerf is the fact that Warriors in the Arena just got slightly worse than they already were.
Pre-nerf WC was useful for making the one archetype of Arena Warrior that could be somewhat competitive - overrunning your opponent with small minions and weapons, fueled by Battle Rage and Cult Master. Now WC is only useful at all if you have a bunch of charge minions, making it about as useful as Bolster.
I feel like I'm pretty used to Blizzard taking an easy way out as well, especially given all the bad examples that we have in HS. I just still keep the hope alive that they will finally start getting better with balancing after so many years of experience. And by balancing I mean either a good and proper initial QA testing or at least timely response within a few months (and not an entire year).
Let's hope next Adventure/Expansion will actually be good and steer the game towards innovation and variety that they strive to achieve so much. According to Ben Brode "TGT was the best thing Blizzard ever did with HS". I sincerely hope the game keeps becoming better and better in the future.
Yeah I hope variety and innovation happens too! I do like the new ideas TGT has added to the game, and future expansions/adventures will improve on them I think. Also, I have been seeing "weird" decks on the latter lately too...decks that you don't see and that people are making.
It makes the game more fun, when you don't know what type of deck you are facing in my eyes
so basically agro decks can't be countered anymore and the entire competetive hearthstone scene will just become an all out cancer fight. I didnt like patron but it was one of the few things keeping agro in line and with that serious of a change the entire deck will die and cancer secredin and face hunter will be the dominate decks turning the entire meta into a mess. R.I.P hearthstone
Why the need to outright kill the deck? Couldn't you make a change as simple as? "Your Minions with 3 or less attack have charge." Would prevent you from being OTKed by frothing and nerfing inner rage while preventing you from triple whirlwinding because your minions would all lose charge.
I'm rather surprised you couldn't find a solution to balancing the deck without killing.
so basically agro decks can't be countered anymore and the entire competetive hearthstone scene will just become an all out cancer fight. I didnt like patron but it was one of the few things keeping agro in line and with that serious of a change the entire deck will die and cancer secredin and face hunter will be the dominate decks turning the entire meta into a mess. R.I.P hearthstone
Really because I don't see many Patrons on the ladder, so I'm not sure how they are keeping aggro in check. But I'll take your word for it tho
so.. no way to play warrior with less than 10K dust again.. rip GP warrior.. you WILL be missed.. the frothing combo was frustrating.. but the he grim patron combo was okeish.. destroyed just like DR hunter and warlock with the UT nerf.. can't they think of ways to make cards just.. less powerful than just destroying them? U could esily be a 2 mana card and just be still played and not broken.. Also blizzard had 10000 ways to nerf patron without destroying it.
GP warrior is TOTALLY destroyed! worst nerf ever Blizzard you destroyed a card from combo piece to garbage I hope you are happy..
so basically agro decks can't be countered anymore and the entire competetive hearthstone scene will just become an all out cancer fight. I didnt like patron but it was one of the few things keeping agro in line and with that serious of a change the entire deck will die and cancer secredin and face hunter will be the dominate decks turning the entire meta into a mess. R.I.P hearthstone
Because there are no other counters to Secret Paladin or Face Hunter right? >_<
There are plenty of decks that handle both just fine. My dragon priest feasts on both quite easily. I'm not happy they sledgehammered a deck that needed a minor adjustment either but let's not chicken little here. The sky isn't falling and the meta will adjust and settle.
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can we just admit that crafting cost 760 to compete was totally unacceptable for blizzard?
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/224656-senfglas-1-legend-grim-patron-warrior
So Blizzard basically deleted Warsong Commander. oookay...?
Btw... brace yourselfs! I predict that quite a lot of patron players will migrate to Secter Cancer Paladin deck. Just because its op. They nerf our op deck? We migrate to another!
Seriously, very bad change. Its not nerf, its completly bs. Same with buzzard. They could as well just delete card from the game.
If they're nerfing Warsong Commander, then they should buff Grim Patron to a 3/5 at the very least.
I feel like I'm pretty used to Blizzard taking an easy way out as well, especially given all the bad examples that we have in HS. I just still keep the hope alive that they will finally start getting better with balancing after so many years of experience. And by balancing I mean either a good and proper initial QA testing or at least timely response within a few months (and not an entire year).
Let's hope next Adventure/Expansion will actually be good and steer the game towards innovation and variety that they strive to achieve so much. According to Ben Brode "TGT was the best thing Blizzard ever did with HS". I sincerely hope the game keeps becoming better and better in the future.
I don't want to play against a Mage in Arena ever again if that happened.
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
So, instead of addressing the brokeness of the combo of this with Patron and Frothing Berserker...they just completely butcher the thing and turn it into a very situational Raid leader, taking a bunch of other Warrior cards along with it.
None of those cards force the designers to design all future cards around them. (Well maybe MC, but you can only make a 1-mana Secret so powerful anyways).
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
Lost in the Grim Patron discussion of Warsong Commander nerf is the fact that Warriors in the Arena just got slightly worse than they already were.
Pre-nerf WC was useful for making the one archetype of Arena Warrior that could be somewhat competitive - overrunning your opponent with small minions and weapons, fueled by Battle Rage and Cult Master. Now WC is only useful at all if you have a bunch of charge minions, making it about as useful as Bolster.
Heavy falls the Nerfhammer.
Yeah I hope variety and innovation happens too! I do like the new ideas TGT has added to the game, and future expansions/adventures will improve on them I think. Also, I have been seeing "weird" decks on the latter lately too...decks that you don't see and that people are making.
It makes the game more fun, when you don't know what type of deck you are facing in my eyes
Good riddance and congrats to all you noobs who could only hit legend with that broken deck.
Patron warrior fixed
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Starving Buzzard welcomes the company of Warsong Commander in the depth of oblivion
so basically agro decks can't be countered anymore and the entire competetive hearthstone scene will just become an all out cancer fight. I didnt like patron but it was one of the few things keeping agro in line and with that serious of a change the entire deck will die and cancer secredin and face hunter will be the dominate decks turning the entire meta into a mess. R.I.P hearthstone
Why the need to outright kill the deck? Couldn't you make a change as simple as? "Your Minions with 3 or less attack have charge." Would prevent you from being OTKed by frothing and nerfing inner rage while preventing you from triple whirlwinding because your minions would all lose charge.
I'm rather surprised you couldn't find a solution to balancing the deck without killing.
Really because I don't see many Patrons on the ladder, so I'm not sure how they are keeping aggro in check. But I'll take your word for it tho
Surely you're trolling, right?
rip in pepperonis warsong you will be missed : (
so.. no way to play warrior with less than 10K dust again.. rip GP warrior.. you WILL be missed.. the frothing combo was frustrating.. but the he grim patron combo was okeish.. destroyed just like DR hunter and warlock with the UT nerf.. can't they think of ways to make cards just.. less powerful than just destroying them? U could esily be a 2 mana card and just be still played and not broken.. Also blizzard had 10000 ways to nerf patron without destroying it.
GP warrior is TOTALLY destroyed! worst nerf ever Blizzard you destroyed a card from combo piece to garbage I hope you are happy..
Because there are no other counters to Secret Paladin or Face Hunter right? >_<
There are plenty of decks that handle both just fine. My dragon priest feasts on both quite easily. I'm not happy they sledgehammered a deck that needed a minor adjustment either but let's not chicken little here. The sky isn't falling and the meta will adjust and settle.