Y'know, I'm really trying to get control warrior to work because I'm nearly golden portrait with warrior already but I feel like I'm trying to make a broken machine work. The secret paladin matchup is so unfavorable it's not even funny. Their early game aggro makes us have to waste all our removals just to survive then come lategame, they drop Tirion and Dr. Boom and manage to still have a strong lategame despite their insane early game. I'm forced NOT to play Warrior if I even want to win some ranked games. I was legend last season and used CW to grind for majority of my games so it's not a matter of "l2p". I'm really getting tired of this game, maybe it's really time to quit.
I tried but that doesn't work too. Their early game pressures you too much and once the start dropping shredders loatheb and mysterious challengers you can't even remove their crap from their board.
Throw in more whirlwind effects like Unstable Ghouls or Explosive Sheeps, maybe even a Blood Knight tech if you have to. Warriors have all the tools to deal with low health minions and flood board. Its silly to throw out a rant like this when you're not willing to try out new things that will clearly and obviously improve your bad match ups if you're getting so easily frustrated. I'm not a self-proclaimed legend player like you but I also like Control Warrior yet I can still get a higher win rate than you. So yeah, l2p I guess :|
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I don't believe quitting is the answer. You know there is an answer to their deck, you just gotta find it. You know all but avenge secrets are relatively weak. You know when the MC drops its gonna be dumb, but play around those cards. Burn up the secrets on dumb stuff. And as ca you are made to survive late. But I do agree it is annoying just play through that garbage
I tried but that doesn't work too. Their early game pressures you too much and once the start dropping shredders loatheb and mysterious challengers you can't even remove their crap from their board.
Sounds like you might be going too heavy on removing EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING out there. Patron tends to ignore anything that isn't a direct threat and focusing more on card draw. You remove, of course, that Muster play since it's one whilrwind, but many times you are just dropping acolytes and pushing to gain your win condition.
Then when they have htat power board and nearly have you at turn 8, you bust out the OTK since they happily provided you with a board FULL of minions to abuse.
Also don't be afraid of the turn 3 Frothing or turn 5 Patron+Rage especially vs the aggro type. If it's midrange type then just focus on the card draw and the OTK.
Control warrior should be able to handle the aggro paladin, but not so much midrange since midrange > Control. Patron, though, eats up midrange for breakfast.
Let's just wait until secret cancer dies and then cw will make its glorious return. We may have to wait until next expansion where blizzard release new cancer though.
right now i play a control warrior variant that is extremely fun and in most of the time deals with paladins: dragon warrior with double brawla nd a lot of armour generators, so far it is imensly fun adn deals quite ok. with the meta.
I don't know about you, but my control warrior works great. If you know how to most efficiently play around paladin secrets it works fine against them. You will need AoE affects to kill off a large board of minions and need to work in gaining as much armor as possible to stall out till your late game threats can beat the Paladin.
This is the CW list ive been playing with, Double Revenge has been working just fine with dealing with paladin boards; also no one ever plays around revenge. EVER
Y'know, I'm really trying to get control warrior to work because I'm nearly golden portrait with warrior already but I feel like I'm trying to make a broken machine work. The secret paladin matchup is so unfavorable it's not even funny. Their early game aggro makes us have to waste all our removals just to survive then come lategame, they drop Tirion and Dr. Boom and manage to still have a strong lategame despite their insane early game. I'm forced NOT to play Warrior if I even want to win some ranked games. I was legend last season and used CW to grind for majority of my games so it's not a matter of "l2p". I'm really getting tired of this game, maybe it's really time to quit.
Just go Patron.
I tried but that doesn't work too. Their early game pressures you too much and once the start dropping shredders loatheb and mysterious challengers you can't even remove their crap from their board.
Throw in more whirlwind effects like Unstable Ghouls or Explosive Sheeps, maybe even a Blood Knight tech if you have to. Warriors have all the tools to deal with low health minions and flood board. Its silly to throw out a rant like this when you're not willing to try out new things that will clearly and obviously improve your bad match ups if you're getting so easily frustrated. I'm not a self-proclaimed legend player like you but I also like Control Warrior yet I can still get a higher win rate than you. So yeah, l2p I guess :|
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I don't believe quitting is the answer. You know there is an answer to their deck, you just gotta find it. You know all but avenge secrets are relatively weak. You know when the MC drops its gonna be dumb, but play around those cards. Burn up the secrets on dumb stuff. And as ca you are made to survive late. But I do agree it is annoying just play through that garbage
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Sounds like you might be going too heavy on removing EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING out there. Patron tends to ignore anything that isn't a direct threat and focusing more on card draw. You remove, of course, that Muster play since it's one whilrwind, but many times you are just dropping acolytes and pushing to gain your win condition.
Then when they have htat power board and nearly have you at turn 8, you bust out the OTK since they happily provided you with a board FULL of minions to abuse.
Also don't be afraid of the turn 3 Frothing or turn 5 Patron+Rage especially vs the aggro type. If it's midrange type then just focus on the card draw and the OTK.
Control warrior should be able to handle the aggro paladin, but not so much midrange since midrange > Control. Patron, though, eats up midrange for breakfast.
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Just play a different deck then. Everybody else chooses decks based on the meta. Or in the very least modify the deck to counter it.
Let's just wait until secret cancer dies and then cw will make its glorious return. We may have to wait until next expansion where blizzard release new cancer though.
right now i play a control warrior variant that is extremely fun and in most of the time deals with paladins: dragon warrior with double brawla nd a lot of armour generators, so far it is imensly fun adn deals quite ok. with the meta.
i like secret pala ...sup haters
i like secret pala ...sup haters
I don't know about you, but my control warrior works great. If you know how to most efficiently play around paladin secrets it works fine against them. You will need AoE affects to kill off a large board of minions and need to work in gaining as much armor as possible to stall out till your late game threats can beat the Paladin.
There really isn't much incentive to play control when patron exists, except for the fun of it.
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Fossbyflopyou shouldnt complain about only losing to one deck. its called finding a tech to beat it.
This is the CW list ive been playing with, Double Revenge has been working just fine with dealing with paladin boards; also no one ever plays around revenge. EVER
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Opponent: Master challenger
You: Time to sax, *Plays Frothing* *secret gives it one health*
Aaaannddd you lose.
control warr is not horrible right now.... part of the decks i ran this season to go legend, and i improved my best score
Yo u can can expect patron to be good forever since its pretty OP and Blizzard just refuses to agree.
Wait, warrior is a class? I thought they are called Grim Patron.
I'm ranking with Control Warrior this season, i'm still far from legend but i'm holding a 69% win rate. That's terrific for a horrible deck ;)
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