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Current meta is stable enough until new cards are introduced. Swarm, miracle, control seem to be in good balance.

The meta seems to consist of:

• Rush aggro decks
• Decks with 5-7 legendaries
• Decks that lose to the above.

What sucks is that there isn't a broken class.  Hunter rush isn't hard to beat, neither is Murloc-Lock  What sucks is that there's very little deck diversity.  It gets boring.  I think they'll have trouble retaining players in the long run.

Rank 3 is nothing but druids.  Never see the rest of this "meta."  

i'm a Hunter Only Player at Legend Top 25

I don't play Bluegill Warrior or Wolfrider or Arcane Golem or Abusive Sergeant or Arcane Shot or Misdirection

I'm always looking for strong opponents to improve my deck without having to play Ranked (yes i'm scared to lose 40 Ranks or more :/ )

Feel free to add me Tobi#1718  :)

The meta is pure shit.  In fact, constructed seems to be pure shit!  Blizzard has fucked it up good going too hardcore p2w, and making rushing too effective.  Those will be the only 2 viable meta's, ever!  Though technically rushing isn't really viable, as it gets crushed by the p2w decks too, but it at least allows you to compete somewhat. 

The issue is there is nothing in between!  Legendary up, or rush, and if you play anything else, well fuck you!

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i'm a Hunter Only Player at Legend Top 25

I don't play Bluegill Warrior or Wolfrider or Arcane Golem or Abusive Sergeant or Arcane Shot or Misdirection

I'm always looking for strong opponents to improve my deck without having to play Ranked (yes i'm scared to lose 40 Ranks or more :/ )

Feel free to add me Tobi#1718  :)

Don't worry about losing your rank, no on is going to notice.  Even if you could consistently get into the top 100, no one would notice.  You wouldn't even get invited into tournaments that mattered, because they only invite names that already have followers.  Doesn't matter how good they are, what's important is the # of followers on twitch/youtube.

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Don't worry about losing your rank, no on is going to notice.  Even if you could consistently get into the top 100, no one would notice.  You wouldn't even get invited into tournaments that mattered, because they only invite names that already have followers.  Doesn't matter how good they are, what's important is the # of followers on twitch/youtube.

ah you misunterstand, i dont do it for others its just for myselfe :D
If i want to be recognized i would start a stream....but to lazy for that :)

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The meta is pure shit.  In fact, constructed seems to be pure shit!  Blizzard has fucked it up good going too hardcore p2w, and making rushing too effective.  Those will be the only 2 viable meta's, ever!  Though technically rushing isn't really viable, as it gets crushed by the p2w decks too, but it at least allows you to compete somewhat. 

The issue is there is nothing in between!  Legendary up, or rush, and if you play anything else, well fuck you!

Watch Reynad. Got to legendary with only common and basic cards. You are wrong, period.

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The meta is pure shit.  In fact, constructed seems to be pure shit!  Blizzard has fucked it up good going too hardcore p2w, and making rushing too effective.  Those will be the only 2 viable meta's, ever!  Though technically rushing isn't really viable, as it gets crushed by the p2w decks too, but it at least allows you to compete somewhat. 

The issue is there is nothing in between!  Legendary up, or rush, and if you play anything else, well fuck you!

Watch Reynad. Got to legendary with only common and basic cards. You are wrong, period.

 

Seeing as he did it with a lame ass to the face rush deck, weeks after the top players are already in legendary....

Yah, how am I wrong again?

The meta is pure shit.  In fact, constructed seems to be pure shit!  Blizzard has fucked it up good going too hardcore p2w, and making rushing too effective. 

I have to agree, it looks like after the "hunter-buff" everybody wants a tast of that easy-dont-think-to-much to the face action... Im playing Druid mid/control on rank 6 and all i see is aggression from almost every class...

"Blizzard has fucked it up good going too hardcore p2w" The game is not pay to win. If someone can get to just as high as a rank as someone who pays then it isn't p2w. You can make whatever excuse you want, but it doesn't disprove the fact that he did not pay and made it was far as someone who has paid.

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"Blizzard has fucked it up good going too hardcore p2w" The game is not pay to win. If someone can get to just as high as a rank as someone who pays then it isn't p2w. You can make whatever excuse you want, but it doesn't disprove the fact that he did not pay and made it was far as someone who has paid.

breaking legend rank isn't the highest you can get and in fact reynad's deck is just flat out better with legendaries, arguably it's not the best deck around either so if you want an optimal deck you need large amounts of dust that a new player can't get in several months realistically without paying.

that makes it p2w

How is legend not the farthest you can make?

Haha wow, so the only way he can prove you wrong that the game is not p2w is if he becomes the number 1 Hearthstone player. xD

The more I play constructed the more I hate it. 80% of the matches are just braindead hyper aggro 

your absolutly right, it looks like most players think "if i cant beat them i join them"..
played 5 games before the servers did go down (EU) and face all the classes, all aggro, all the same face/charge minions.

i think the core of the problem are the neutral (1-6 mana) charge minions, they make it so you can make every class a aggro face one, and in combination with weapons (warrior/paladin/rogue) almost unstoppable.

Try to stop them with taunts then wait to get blacknighted or silenced...

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The more I play constructed the more I hate it. 80% of the matches are just braindead hyper aggro 

your absolutly right, it looks like most players think "if i cant beat them i join them"..
played 5 games before the servers did go down (EU) and face all the classes, all aggro, all the same face/charge minions.

i think the core of the problem are the neutral (1-6 mana) charge minions, they make it so you can make every class a aggro face one, and in combination with weapons (warrior/paladin/rogue) almost unstoppable.

Try to stop them with taunts then wait to get blacknighted or silenced...

The problem is rushing is too effective period.  The game is just so out of balance!

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Haha wow, so the only way he can prove you wrong that the game is not p2w is if he becomes the number 1 Hearthstone player. xD

pretty much. 

if the optimal deck is a non-legendary one then the game isn't pay2win. this is not the case, reynad's warrior deck is in fact improved with legendaries.

the definition of pay2win. pay to get an edge.

 Damn straight.  I am tired of people misconstruing the definition of p2w.

As a player who is at Rank 2 and who competes in tournaments of the such, no one uses these rush decks because they suck. No, not because we have legendary's that counter them, because it is very simple to out play them. If they were very overpowered, then they would be seen in the tournament deck lists. The amount of complaining people do whenever a certain deck or deck strategy comes up is hilarious. It is not that you don't pay for it, it is because you simply lack the skill. I don't want to put it bluntly but it isn't going through your heads. Enter tournaments and see what decks give you trouble, even try using one of these rush decks if you want. 

I guess it's only play to win if the only way to getting a card is paying. You can always craft it, of course it takes time, but...

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As a player who is at Rank 2 and who competes in tournaments of the such, no one uses these rush decks because they suck. No, not because we have legendary's that counter them, because it is very simple to out play them. If they were very overpowered, then they would be seen in the tournament deck lists. The amount of complaining people do whenever a certain deck or deck strategy comes up is hilarious. It is not that you don't pay for it, it is because you simply lack the skill. I don't want to put it bluntly but it isn't going through your heads. Enter tournaments and see what decks give you trouble, even try using one of these rush decks if you want. 

In other words, you have a p2w legendary deck, but can't even make it to legendary.  Yet, you want to talk about being outplayed?  ROFL!  Ohh the irony.  Thanks for the laugh.

The only legendary in my deck that I use is Cairne Bloodhoof. No I do not consider myself one of the best Hearthstone players, but I'm also not complaining about being beaten by "p2w decks". If I lose yes sometimes it is due to luck, but it is mainly due to skill. If I get beat by a deck that has a lot of legendary's I could care less. I don't see irony in me being at Rank 2 with one legendary in my deck. Also, I have never payed a cent. 

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As a player who is at Rank 2 and who competes in tournaments of the such, no one uses these rush decks because they suck. No, not because we have legendary's that counter them, because it is very simple to out play them. If they were very overpowered, then they would be seen in the tournament deck lists. The amount of complaining people do whenever a certain deck or deck strategy comes up is hilarious. It is not that you don't pay for it, it is because you simply lack the skill. I don't want to put it bluntly but it isn't going through your heads. Enter tournaments and see what decks give you trouble, even try using one of these rush decks if you want. 

Now I know you're a joke. Not only is rush (both Warrior and Hunter are still popular, even at legend rank) both alive and well in constructed but who are you kidding with 'outplaying' them?

Dude, you have fucking 3-4 cards on hand and you only have a few crystals to work with. "GEE MAYBE I SHOULDN'T KEEP RAGNAROS AND YSERA ON HAND", it's not exactly brain surgery to figure out what to remove and what to keep. Then the opponent plays his cards and you remove them with the appropriate removal (HMMM, do I remove his frothing berserker with a Swipe or deal 3 damage to him with Wrath and almost kill it?) and play down whatever creatures you can. 

"Outplay" ... ROFL

I am speaking from my experience. If you are at Rank 5 or higher and you see a lot of these rush decks then that is your experience. Also if you consider this game extremely simple to play (what I got from your second paragraph) then that is a hilarious opinions xD.

Dude, the only skill in this game is creating the deck, which most people bypass by copying popular decks on the net.  Seriously, there are only a few possible attack combinations, and cards that can be played any one turn.  A little experience is all that is required to know the best move. 

Out of curiosity, what rank are you?