So i was thinking the other day about future expansions. It seems like Blizzard is taking things from all the other card games and building on the better parts of them. The major thing is the set releases and this got me thinking and wondering if any one has considered this or what they would do.
So MTG releases a yearly core set with previously released cards and some good new ones that are powerful some times. Some of the reprinted cards have new art some dont. They are not massively purchased sets because of this though. So i was wondering if Blizzard did this and released a set of cards with reprints with new art on some of the cards, would you purchase the packs?
The cards could be from any set/adventure that has already been printed, and would include new cards as well to clarify.
Personally i think a new art for something like Deathwing would be cool, or even something like voidwalker with better art would be neat to have to play with rather than the same ones we have had for going on a year now.
The ideas been around for a long time now. Blizzard would have some challenges to face when trying to implement something like this.
Golden art would be needed for each Release method would need to be thought out to avoid the crying. Time (apparently scarce already) would need to be allocated to this once per year, or all year round to get it done.
Im sure there are more obstacles and i would love to see this, including more hero portraits. I would pay money for this kind of thing as a micro transaction to help fuel the manpower needed for this.
I dont play MTG any more, so them ending it is news to me.
I do not think they need to release something like that now, maybe in a few years or so when we get a ton of new cards out. If they didnt do a "core set" i could see them doing single micro transactions like you mentioned about hero portraits. Something like you need to own the original art for first to buy the new one, then you can select which one you want to use when selecting the card. This would keep people from having to buy cards they already own that they do not want to have the chance at getting the new ones.
I think it will be interesting how/if blizzard will ever tackle something like this. With the way the game is set up (online only) it makes it even more complex to do correctly.
I kind of hope they don't reissue old cards with new art. Seems like it would just make it more tedious to flip through the card album to put decks together. Veterans would be more likely to play the old art anyway, thus showing their veteran status.
I don't know what the solution is as far as new players getting into the game, finding themselves hundreds of cards out of the loop.
Maybe increase the pool of basic initial issue cards as a fractional value of the overall card pool? That way veteran players won't feel "ripped-off", but new players won't be starting from so far behind.
I kind of hope they don't reissue old cards with new art.
Me too. While I'm playing, I like to be able to immediately recognise cards based on their art.
I've been suggesting for months that alternate art cards could be cool ranked rewards if they don't want to hand out more packs/dust. That would be a really slow influx of new art to memorize anyway.
I kind of hope they don't reissue old cards with new art.
Me too. While I'm playing, I like to be able to immediately recognise cards based on their art.
I've been suggesting for months that alternate art cards could be cool ranked rewards if they don't want to hand out more packs/dust. That would be a really slow influx of new art to memorize anyway.
I like that idea a huge amount. Right now im playing maybe 2-3 hours a week total and really dont care about ranking up. I want to push for legend but if i fall short it sucks and you get nothing for it. I got to rank 5 and had a few days left and might of made it if i was lucky, but at the same time investing that much time to not get there sucks. IF i could of gotten something as a hey, good job then maybe i would of invested, rather i stopped playing.
At some point there will have to either be limited formats or else "reprint" sets with key cards or else new players will never be able to enter the game. The one thing HS has going for it is the dust/crafting aspect. An argument can be made that they don't need to ever reprint anything as long as the cards are craftable. I'd even say a system where they allow adventure cards to be crafted once they are more than 2 adventures old for their respective rarities dust cost is the best option. That way people don't have to buy 3-4 adventures and play through them all just to get up to speed, but they still have to spend gold/money to get enough dust to make the key cards.
The "core set" equivalent is semi-baked in already. "Basic" cards, which everyone unlocks for free playing to level 10. Those will always be equally accessible for all time no matter what new sets come, and a number of them are fairly powerful. Would be moreso if certain staples were in basic rather than classic though. (Lightning storm for shaman, blade flurry for rogue, etc.)
The dust/infinite "printing" of packs does mean that no reprints are needed now. However if we ever move to a rotating format, reprints are the conceptually simplest (and most "physical") way to periodically move cards in and out of use, so I think they will still happen in that case.
I kind of hope they don't reissue old cards with new art.
Me too. While I'm playing, I like to be able to immediately recognise cards based on their art.
Honestly, I'd rather they use new art as a reason to add in new cards. One card game I played you'd have the same character in a new situation which represented a new card.
So, for example, you could have Crown Prince Arthas and Lich King Arthas. Both would be different cards with different effects and have different art for them.
Then those would simply be different cards, star wars tcg had pretty much the same thing. MTG does as well with the planeswalkers, they combated it by making it so you couldnt have multiples of to powerful cards on the board at one time by placing a name on it such as Jace, then you could have a Jace The Mindsculpter and a Jace Beleron (sp) on the table at the same time because the character cant exist twice in one reality.
personally i wouldnt like seeing multiples of the same character on the board by the same player at one time.
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So i was thinking the other day about future expansions. It seems like Blizzard is taking things from all the other card games and building on the better parts of them. The major thing is the set releases and this got me thinking and wondering if any one has considered this or what they would do.
So MTG releases a yearly core set with previously released cards and some good new ones that are powerful some times. Some of the reprinted cards have new art some dont. They are not massively purchased sets because of this though. So i was wondering if Blizzard did this and released a set of cards with reprints with new art on some of the cards, would you purchase the packs?
The cards could be from any set/adventure that has already been printed, and would include new cards as well to clarify.
Personally i think a new art for something like Deathwing would be cool, or even something like voidwalker with better art would be neat to have to play with rather than the same ones we have had for going on a year now.
So what do you all think of this idea?
The ideas been around for a long time now. Blizzard would have some challenges to face when trying to implement something like this.
Golden art would be needed for each
Release method would need to be thought out to avoid the crying.
Time (apparently scarce already) would need to be allocated to this once per year, or all year round to get it done.
Im sure there are more obstacles and i would love to see this, including more hero portraits. I would pay money for this kind of thing as a micro transaction to help fuel the manpower needed for this.
Not anymore. MtG's current core set will be its last.
I dont play MTG any more, so them ending it is news to me.
I do not think they need to release something like that now, maybe in a few years or so when we get a ton of new cards out. If they didnt do a "core set" i could see them doing single micro transactions like you mentioned about hero portraits. Something like you need to own the original art for first to buy the new one, then you can select which one you want to use when selecting the card. This would keep people from having to buy cards they already own that they do not want to have the chance at getting the new ones.
I think it will be interesting how/if blizzard will ever tackle something like this. With the way the game is set up (online only) it makes it even more complex to do correctly.
I kind of hope they don't reissue old cards with new art. Seems like it would just make it more tedious to flip through the card album to put decks together. Veterans would be more likely to play the old art anyway, thus showing their veteran status.
I don't know what the solution is as far as new players getting into the game, finding themselves hundreds of cards out of the loop.
Maybe increase the pool of basic initial issue cards as a fractional value of the overall card pool? That way veteran players won't feel "ripped-off", but new players won't be starting from so far behind.
Me too. While I'm playing, I like to be able to immediately recognise cards based on their art.
I've been suggesting for months that alternate art cards could be cool ranked rewards if they don't want to hand out more packs/dust.
That would be a really slow influx of new art to memorize anyway.
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I like that idea a huge amount. Right now im playing maybe 2-3 hours a week total and really dont care about ranking up. I want to push for legend but if i fall short it sucks and you get nothing for it. I got to rank 5 and had a few days left and might of made it if i was lucky, but at the same time investing that much time to not get there sucks. IF i could of gotten something as a hey, good job then maybe i would of invested, rather i stopped playing.
alternative arts for ranks seems cool
At some point there will have to either be limited formats or else "reprint" sets with key cards or else new players will never be able to enter the game. The one thing HS has going for it is the dust/crafting aspect. An argument can be made that they don't need to ever reprint anything as long as the cards are craftable. I'd even say a system where they allow adventure cards to be crafted once they are more than 2 adventures old for their respective rarities dust cost is the best option. That way people don't have to buy 3-4 adventures and play through them all just to get up to speed, but they still have to spend gold/money to get enough dust to make the key cards.
The "core set" equivalent is semi-baked in already. "Basic" cards, which everyone unlocks for free playing to level 10. Those will always be equally accessible for all time no matter what new sets come, and a number of them are fairly powerful. Would be moreso if certain staples were in basic rather than classic though. (Lightning storm for shaman, blade flurry for rogue, etc.)
The dust/infinite "printing" of packs does mean that no reprints are needed now. However if we ever move to a rotating format, reprints are the conceptually simplest (and most "physical") way to periodically move cards in and out of use, so I think they will still happen in that case.
Honestly, I'd rather they use new art as a reason to add in new cards. One card game I played you'd have the same character in a new situation which represented a new card.
So, for example, you could have Crown Prince Arthas and Lich King Arthas. Both would be different cards with different effects and have different art for them.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
Then those would simply be different cards, star wars tcg had pretty much the same thing. MTG does as well with the planeswalkers, they combated it by making it so you couldnt have multiples of to powerful cards on the board at one time by placing a name on it such as Jace, then you could have a Jace The Mindsculpter and a Jace Beleron (sp) on the table at the same time because the character cant exist twice in one reality.
personally i wouldnt like seeing multiples of the same character on the board by the same player at one time.