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What the hell, you guys are completely blowing this out of propotion.

I ALWAYS say "Well Played" to my opponent when I win (when I lose too, obviously), and I've never ever imagined it could be perceived as an insult. I think it's simply the "GG" of Hearthstone and it's good sportmanship to say Well Played at the end of the game whether you win or not.

Stacraft players do this, MOBA players do this, and in pretty much every 1v1 sports people do this. When people say that there are no general rules of thumb, that's obviously true for Hearthstone, but if we look at other sports/games then it just seems natural to me to say Well Played. Take tennis, for example: even if someone crush their opponent they will always, always say "well played" or something along this line at the end of the match. It would be extremely rude not to. I live in France by the way, but I guess good sportmanship rules are pretty much the same everywhere.

I'll keep saying GG - or rather Well Played - after each game because I think it's a mark of respect / good sportmanship, and well, too bad for you if you perceive it as anything else than this.

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What the hell, you guys are completely blowing this out of propotion.

I ALWAYS say "Well Played" to my opponent when I win (when I lose too, obviously), and I've never ever imagined it could be perceived as an insult. I think it's simply the "GG" of Hearthstone and it's good sportmanship to say Well Played at the end of the game whether you win or not.

Stacraft players do this, MOBA players do this, and in pretty much every 1v1 sports people do this. When people say that there are no general rules of thumb, that's obviously true for Hearthstone, but if we look at other sports/games then it just seems natural to me to say Well Played. Take tennis, for example: even if someone crush their opponent they will always, always say "well played" or something along this line at the end of the match. It would be extremely rude not to. I live in France by the way, but I guess good sportmanship rules are pretty much the same everywhere.

I'll keep saying GG - or rather Well Played - after each game because I think it's a mark of respect / good sportmanship, and well, too bad for you if you perceive it as anything else than this.

alot of people take it as gloating when you say "Well Played"

if you say "well played" when beating me up by turn 5 I won't take it as polite. I'll take it as an insult, even knowing that you might just do it every other game.

To me, "well played", is "well played". If I played horribly due to bad draw, bad deck, or simply because I suck, i didn't play well..

And I behave that way, if i beat you by turn 5, or i beat you 28+ to 0, then i'll say "Sorry" instead, because there's a big chance i just beat someone new to the game, someone who had bad luck with his draws or something like it.

Also, if i don't think you actually played well, even if I beat you with 1 hp left, i won't say "well played either", I'll just keep silent.

I like use the "threaten" emote but I wish there were a "taunt" emote.  that would clear up some of the confusion that "well played" is being used as a taunt.  But generally, saying well played is the same as saying GG in my book.  

Can I say well played when I know I have lethal and I'm going to kill them ? 

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if you say "well played" when beating me up by turn 5 I won't take it as polite. I'll take it as an insult, even knowing that you might just do it every other game.

To me, "well played", is "well played". If I played horribly due to bad draw, bad deck, or simply because I suck, i didn't play well..

And I behave that way, if i beat you by turn 5, or i beat you 28+ to 0, then i'll say "Sorry" instead, because there's a big chance i just beat someone new to the game, someone who had bad luck with his draws or something like it.

Also, if i don't think you actually played well, even if I beat you with 1 hp left, i won't say "well played either", I'll just keep silent.

"Sorry" always comes across as gloating to me, unless someone makes an obvious mistake or something.

I don't want an apology from the person that beat me, I don't need their pity. Just say well played and move on.

Saying well played is the equivalent of shaking hands at the end of the game, I was brought up playing multiple sports so always shake hands at the end of a game.

Saying well played mid game, when you are on turn 4 and the other person is struggling is totally different to saying it at the end of the game.

Ahhh, Text book case on how communication is dependent on both parties doing it properly. When communication is so limited as it is in Hearthstone, the number of interpretations to the messages is incredibly high.

We are a perfect example, we interpret "Sorry" and "Well Played" completely different, and neither of us is "right" because there's simply no "right".

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Well, sorry to make you mad, but to say "Well played" is something I always will do.

I come from the Starcraft scene where you are expected to type out GG (Good Game) before you give up. The opponent is then supposed to answer with GG himself. This is a common act of respect, the loser congrats the winner, and the winner thanks the loser for a good match, NO MATTER how one sided it may have been.

However, what you DO NOT do is to type out a "offensive GG", before the loser has taken the decision to give up. That is considered bad manner. It's the same in Hearthstone: DO NOT say well played before you actually has won the match, wait until your opponent says "Well Played" or concedes. Also, refrain from saying "Thanks", you don't thank them for conceding, that's just being a asshat.

I guess many people have different opinions about this, but this is at least my take on the matter.

This is exactly how I see it.  So, after every match I say well played no matter how one sided it was.

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Can I say well played when I know I have lethal and I'm going to kill them ? 

That would seem rude to me. You're declaring victory before actually playing it out. Imagine if you had almost finished your opponent off in Starcraft and said GG when you knew you would win. That would make you look like a jerk. Let the loser say GG ("Well Played") first.

I think the same goes for playing out your entire hand when you have lethal on the board. There are times that I accidentally play an extra card because I didn't calculate lethal properly, but I try not to drag out the last turn as that is rude. When I have 2 hp and a hunter unloads a huge combo, I usually concede before they finish because they're just unnecessarily being a jerk and wasting time.

As for those using sports analogies, they don't quite work. In sports you shake after the clock runs out. If you went over to the losing team and shook their hand before the clock ran out, and maybe before you scored the winning goal, you'd be a total jerk. Same goes for Hearthstone.

Here's a simple set of "rules" people can follow to both win and lose with respect (or honor, humility, etc.):

1. When you lose, say WP no matter how one-sided the loss was. And don't play your full hand out before conceding (unless you're drawing cards for a solution). 
2. When you win, wait for the loser to say WP. If you absolutely can't do this, at the very least wait until after you've dealt lethal damage and the game is truly ended. If you have lethal on the board, don't play your hand before killing your opponent. And if you have to play cards for lethal, try to not be flashy, just play what you need to win.

Wish they had a "Learn to Play" emote
as well as a "That was easy"

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Wish they had a "Learn to Play" emote
as well as a "That was easy"

I'd like a "Lucky!" one for when a Mad Bomber kills the opposing Scarlet Crusader for example...

It's just a function of paralanguage. While I, too, personally find it distasteful when people throw up a "Well played" (or gg) before I have offered one first, I'm not going to get bent out of shape about it, either. I personally don't say "Well played" unless it was well-played, and I was outplayed (actually, I mostly agree with Winslow in entirety, a page back). But that's irrelevant.

What I think ~is~ worth mentioning is I think those people who fall onto the defense of "It's just standard behavioral etiquette to say gg as a show of sportsmanship" are ones who might stand to take a second look at why they do this.

This is where I fundamentally disagree. Sportsmanship-- like any interaction with another person-- should be conscious and cognizant. Slamming the 'g' button twice and hitting enter doesn't make for sportsmanship; it makes for pointless routine devoid of actual meaning. When hitting "Well played" becomes as routine and automatic as hitting "find opponent", it stops being sportsmanship. Instead it turns into laziness at best, and perceived arrogance, at worst. 

There's some truth to the timing and tact involved in saying certain phrases during a certain point. Mid-match, if someone says "Well played" after a strong move, ~that~ is a show of sportsmanship. Just like dropping a legendary that crushes the board, and saying "Well played" can be construed as ill-mannered.

People who pick up on and respect these nuances aren't common. Because it's being considerate. 

Read that again; ~trying to understand how your actions may be interpreted is a sign of consideration~; which is what sportsmanship is. Just like not wasting someone else's time when you've won (or lost). Just win. Or just concede. You don't need to play out your hand in order to make yourself feel better, win or lose. Just save everyone the time.

Just the opinion of an old-skooler. Maybe I'm bringing too much psychology and arcade-etiquette to the table.

The whole "well played" thing is the one reason and the only reason that I would like an option to auto-squelch all players. Okay, you won, don't need you to rub it in. That second or two it takes them to click the emote is a second or two sooner they could be getting in the kill and letting me move on to the next game.

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Maybe it is where I am from (UK) but after a game of anything - pool, cards, football, hearthstone, whatever - there will always be a 'well played', 'thanks for the game', a shake of hands etc. It is just polite and is meant in a friendly manner. I certainly do it after every match and like to see it from other people. I wouldn't just walk away from any face to face game without saying anything.

While I don't doubt some people will use it sarcastically, I would suggest the vast majority of people are just being friendly - anyone thinking differently might have some paranoia issues that could do with some attention...

Agreed. I say well played when the game is over regardless of outcome, and expect the same from other people as well.

I'm also tired of the type of people who say "sorry about that" when they make a good play, or "that was a mistake" when I make a misplay. You're just being smug by saying things like that, and I take "Well Played" as something similiar to that.

I really want emotes like GG ("that was a good fight..."), Yes ("that turned out just as I hoped..."), No ("Noooo.... how could you DO that?!"), Sure ("You sure you wanna do that?" - cool for when the enemy wants to race you on health), or simply more variety for the basic emotes (and less sarcasm than the current ones?)

Well played, GG, etc. stopped having meaning a long time ago.  Their closest meaning now is "I win".  I'd say the guy I'm playing says well played when he's about to win probably 80% of the time.  However, when you put the shoe on the other foot and I'm about to win I can remember twice ever when the guy I'm playing said well played.  If you're one of the idiots that says well played after every win you better be saying it after every loss too or you're just a tool.  This trend isn't unique to hearthstone, it's in all games nowadays.

It is made a little bit harder by the fact that there's only a small window in which you can emote anything after lethal. What I'd really like to do is send both "Well Played" and "Thank You" after the game is over.

In-game chat that can be disabled is so desperately needed in this game.

It allows friendly banter and proper conveyance of most of your thoughts during a game, and to be frank, if my opponent is just trolling/flaming, I can block them, disable chat, report them, or whatever. I'd likely just leave it up and let them continue to be crass. I'd take it as them not being confident enough to win and lashing out b/c of it, or them tilting, and I'd just keep playing. Words are words. People need thicker e-skin.

Am I the only one who uses "Well Played" for plays that I'm impressed with or when my opponent shifts tempo back to him?

Oh, and preemptive "Well Played" is due to not having time after then win to respond to him if he says it.

I use emotes as I feel; if half of the people posting here played against me you would probably end up breaking your computer with the rage you guys post over emotes. If a player makes a mistake, I'll say sorry or thanks - letting them know they made a mistake that way they can maybe improve in the future. I "Well played" regardless of whether I win or lose more often the not, and I don't bother waiting for them to say it first even if I was crushing them the entire game. I say "sorry" if I top deck a good play, or just in general when someone really thinks out a turn and I completely counter it the following turn. It's a game, and it's meant to be played as a game - if you get raged over emotes in a casual game like HS you should really reflect on yourself as a person. Also, if you know your'e going to lose and waste my time on your turn before passing turn to me I'll play every card I can, spam emotes, and wait the full 90 second duration. If I know I'm going to lose, or find it very improbable I'll make a comeback I'll always concede immediately. If you only have 3 cards in your hand and take the full duration of the turn to make a decision I will spam "Greetings", and then waste as much of your time as I possibly can. Moral of the story is, this is a video game, there is a squelch button - quit crying like teenage girls and sack up. If you can't manage to play without letting the game ruin your day maybe you should uninstall it and find another hobby,