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How on earth can greetings at the start of a game not be polite!? It is the only time it is possible for it to be polite, for decency's sake.

It's easy to forget that while they might be playing one of a limited number of heroes, they are still another human being and deserves respect.
When you sit down across a game board with someone for the first time, even if it's a digital one, you greet each other or you are dicks. It's basic ¤%&/%" politeness.

I do not mean this personally, but think about what you actually said. You straight out say that you make no distinction between the player and his deck, that all players of a specific deck is in a specific way and that you will actively block any attempt from them to show you you are wrong in your assumptions. You are effectively treating them as if they are not worth respect, that you are better than them, not as a player but as a human. I have difficulty grasping how you can motivate that without first assuming they are not people...

honestly why, why do warriors have soooo many damn removals

So, I've had to stop playing Priest (I know, you are welcome xD). It was just brutal. I didn't know how brutal it was until I started tracking my games. I've tried to play from the computer and not too much from my tablet. And I have been able to. It sucks, because Priest is my favorite class, probably because I hate ZooLock with a passion...

However when I looked at the stats, it was very revealing to see why players that normally rank higher track their games.

With Priest I am 25-41, that's an abysmal winning percentage of 37.9%. Or if you want to be positive, that's a losing percentage of 62.1%

However, the rest of the decks did mostly better but I was able to see the play by play as well. And it just baffles me how much luck is involved in winning and losing games. Very few games were decided on misplays from my or the opponent. And it was basically decided on the card draw.

My game sample is 232 games, for those that like to criticize small samples.

Having said that, those that like to vent too much need to realize that some people are luckier than others. And you are in the last group, just like I am.

So do yourself a favor and don't rage that much, accept that this is a flip of the coin and just get on with it... Life is too short to get so angry. Instead, try to look for things where you can improve the game and suggest those changes.

Good Luck XD 

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can someone tell how the fuck is it possible to play c thun warrior (first time control deck) and face 30 midrange 1 aggro and then play midrange hunter 10 aggro in a row

 Because matchmaking and or outcomes of games is rigged, period. Blizzard knows how to make money. Not everyone seem to be affected but there is an algorithm for sure and it's designed to maximize profits.

People who spend money are probably most affected because doing poorly in game will incentivize spending more money. Meanwhile f2p-players  are not affected or maybe given favorable streaks in between losses which carries them, because Blizzard don't lose money on someone who will never open their wallet anyway but they can use these people for advertising -  to give the illusion that everyone can be successful. Kind of like how Facebook use people for marketing. Fucking disgusting but nonetheless brilliant. Who knows how exactly it works, but no one can convince me that the game is not rigged.

 You got tinfoil gloves to go with your hat there, buddy?

 Got any salt to go with your offtopic smugness, little troll?  

Just a reminder that whatever rank you achieve playing Shaman in this meta is irrelevant because bots get legend with their unbalanced cards. Playing Shaman just means you suck but need to win to believe you don't.

Also Yog is ridiculous. Such random bullshitfuckery. 

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can someone tell how the fuck is it possible to play c thun warrior (first time control deck) and face 30 midrange 1 aggro and then play midrange hunter 10 aggro in a row

 Because matchmaking and or outcomes of games is rigged, period. Blizzard knows how to make money. Not everyone seem to be affected but there is an algorithm for sure and it's designed to maximize profits.

People who spend money are probably most affected because doing poorly in game will incentivize spending more money. Meanwhile f2p-players  are not affected or maybe given favorable streaks in between losses which carries them, because Blizzard don't lose money on someone who will never open their wallet anyway but they can use these people for advertising -  to give the illusion that everyone can be successful. Kind of like how Facebook use people for marketing. Fucking disgusting but nonetheless brilliant. Who knows how exactly it works, but no one can convince me that the game is not rigged.

 You got tinfoil gloves to go with your hat there, buddy?

 Got any salt to go with your offtopic smugness, little troll?  

 The matchmaking is definitely rigged based on my testing. Ben Brode appears to simply be lying when he says match ups are determined solely on rank and not on deck content.

I played 42 consecutive games with an off-meta control priest not using current expansion cards (designed to wreck Shaman)  and faced a high proportion of control decks warrior, Druid, priest etc often running C'thun (ranks 18-16). I then switched to a midrange Shaman, played 42 more in the same rank range, and the proportion of C'thun and control decks dropped and the proportion of midrange decks suddenly jumped dramatically.

Using confidence intervals for proportions I can state that the difference in proportions faced by the two deck types was statistically significant with 95% confidence. In other words there is less than a 5% chance (1 in 20) that simple 'bad luck' explains the change. Now, this is not a bulletproof test, but I do have a postgraduate degre in Statistics and this does seem to suggest match ups are rigged based on your deck type.

My theory is the matchmaking is designed to create match ups that convince people to play the current expansion cards that blizzard wants to sell. 

No tinfoil hat required - just some data and a little math.

 

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can someone tell how the fuck is it possible to play c thun warrior (first time control deck) and face 30 midrange 1 aggro and then play midrange hunter 10 aggro in a row

 Because matchmaking and or outcomes of games is rigged, period. Blizzard knows how to make money. Not everyone seem to be affected but there is an algorithm for sure and it's designed to maximize profits.

People who spend money are probably most affected because doing poorly in game will incentivize spending more money. Meanwhile f2p-players  are not affected or maybe given favorable streaks in between losses which carries them, because Blizzard don't lose money on someone who will never open their wallet anyway but they can use these people for advertising -  to give the illusion that everyone can be successful. Kind of like how Facebook use people for marketing. Fucking disgusting but nonetheless brilliant. Who knows how exactly it works, but no one can convince me that the game is not rigged.

 You got tinfoil gloves to go with your hat there, buddy?

 Got any salt to go with your offtopic smugness, little troll?  

 The matchmaking is definitely rigged based on my testing. Ben Brode appears to simply be lying when he says match ups are determined solely on rank and not on deck content.

I played 42 consecutive games with an off-meta control priest not using current expansion cards (designed to wreck Shaman)  and faced a high proportion of control decks warrior, Druid, priest etc often running C'thun (ranks 18-16). I then switched to a midrange Shaman, played 42 more in the same rank range, and the proportion of C'thun and control decks dropped and the proportion of midrange decks suddenly jumped dramatically.

Using confidence intervals for proportions I can state that the difference in proportions faced by the two deck types was statistically significant with 95% confidence. In other words there is less than a 5% chance (1 in 20) that simple 'bad luck' explains the change. Now, this is not a bulletproof test, but I do have a postgraduate degre in Statistics and this does seem to suggest match ups are rigged based on your deck type.

My theory is the matchmaking is designed to create match ups that convince people to play the current expansion cards that blizzard wants to sell. 

No tinfoil hat required - just some data and a little math.

 

This game is such Fucking trash.  Especially if you are playing on a f2p account. So Fucking sick of this bullshit game.  

F2p: you have to dust most cards in your collection to make a deck that don't suck ass

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Gods, I need to rage at the moment, after another set of games with an 80% loss rate...

I hate everyone and everything connected to this misanthropic, evil parody of a past-time.
I hate all players who lacks the common decency to at least reply to a greeting from an opponent. You are playing against another human, you spoiled brats, treat them as such at least a bit.
I hate all the smug Catamites who's first emote is to say "well played" after curb-stomping you beyond belief.
I hate the barely simian morons who emote a threat when you have already lost and just said "well played".
I hate that some players seem to have decks specifically tailored against me, because I do not know enough to tailor my tactics against them.
I hate, despise and loathe any and all who even accepts the idea of bots being ok. It's only ok if you think other players are worth zero respect, you self-centred, thoughtless, sociopathic lazy ingrates.
I hate the childish complaints about unbalanced decks or overpowered meta, and I hate the unbalanced decks and the overpowered meta.
I hate the entirety of the Internet which spawned this morass of polypathological, non-cohesive mishmashes of contra-intuitive fallacies.

And I hate myself, when I find myself saying "fuck off!" at a screen, but directed at a person who did nothing worse than beat me in a game, fair and square. There is no excuse for that, even if they can't hear me.


But most of all, in a simmering, low-key way, I hate those smug people who claim it's just a matter of training to get better.
It is not. Nor is it a matter of luck, or even just of natural talent.

The one thing almost no one of these self-righteous collections of unclean phospholipid-sacks full of contaminated water seem to understand is that all skilled learning have one critical component that this game lacks the capacity for- feedback.

Learning from your mistakes require that someone is willing to tell you what they were and why, and you cannot get that from a screen telling you "you lost". And you cannot get it from watching others play. It require interaction with people, not just opponents.

If you do not know what is wrong with a particular move, you will not know WHEN it is wrong. Especially when the skill element often is such a subtle part of the whole and only comes into play when the RNG happens to make for balanced plays, roughly equal draws and such. 

Well learning is by doing. You get better at this game by knowing the cards, having a solid deck, watching pro streamers and then trying yourself.

 That's it! Your on my little list... (For the uncultured, cross reference Gilbert and Sullivan)

Seriously though, I know what you and the other "smug people" ( as I called the group) are referring to and in some ways you are, of course, correct. But take it from someone who has some experience (about 20 years, all told) with teaching, learning, thinking and the related psychology; you are also very wrong.

That advice is simply not correct, and outright dangerous, until you have reached a certain point in your understanding. Before that it is just as likely to destroy you as help you learn. The reason is that without a correct foundation of understanding you do not know what you are supposed to watch for, what you need to know about the cards or what is a solid deck. But you will still make connections, without any guarantee they are relevant or correct.
Due to this fact, you are actually more likely* to entrench faulty understanding and become a worse player over time if there is no one to actively correct your faulty thinking. All self-learning is by association and pattern study, but our brains cannot recognize it's own faulty thinking. (*Since there are more way to be wrong than to be right)

So, I decided to play some standard, went from 20 to 14. I wanna say that this meta is bullshit, I was facing only cancer shamans, warlocks, and unfair warriors. After that I decided to play wild mode, and IT IS BETTER! I actually met some people that were playing their own made interesting and original decks. Of course I met some cancer decks like secret paladins, but not that many. Gonna play wild for a while

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How on earth can greetings at the start of a game not be polite!? It is the only time it is possible for it to be polite, for decency's sake.

It's easy to forget that while they might be playing one of a limited number of heroes, they are still another human being and deserves respect.
When you sit down across a game board with someone for the first time, even if it's a digital one, you greet each other or you are dicks. It's basic ¤%&/%" politeness.

I do not mean this personally, but think about what you actually said. You straight out say that you make no distinction between the player and his deck, that all players of a specific deck is in a specific way and that you will actively block any attempt from them to show you you are wrong in your assumptions. You are effectively treating them as if they are not worth respect, that you are better than them, not as a player but as a human. I have difficulty grasping how you can motivate that without first assuming they are not people...

 I will have to challenge that with some anecdotal evidence. 

Typical game against aggro. I said greetings in the beginning, he replies with threaten. OK then.

Fast forward to the end where he concedes after I dropped Reno on 2 HP. He friends me for saying  that Im a ****** for BMing with emotes and I should learn what emotes are for. Funny thing was the only emote I used was the greetings at the beginning.

 Are you serious!?

Using a single case of another idiot (they are not uncommon, no argument about that) you defend the idea that it's ok to ignore and/or disparage everyone with a superficial similarity? Here are a few more of the same arguments for you to play with if you like...

A black man once threatened someone, so all blacks are violent?  Some people claiming to be Muslim blew themselves up, so all Muslims are fanatics? A Christian once proved he knows nothing about biology, so all Christians are fundamentalist creationists? A number of Americans have said dumb things on TV, so all Americans are morons?  The Nazis were German, so all Germans are evil? Scientists have been wrong in the past, so all science is suspect and can be ignored?

Think about what you actually said and ask if it was really a challenge to my statement, or if it actually proved it's relevance...

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can someone tell how the fuck is it possible to play c thun warrior (first time control deck) and face 30 midrange 1 aggro and then play midrange hunter 10 aggro in a row

 Because matchmaking and or outcomes of games is rigged, period. Blizzard knows how to make money. Not everyone seem to be affected but there is an algorithm for sure and it's designed to maximize profits.

People who spend money are probably most affected because doing poorly in game will incentivize spending more money. Meanwhile f2p-players  are not affected or maybe given favorable streaks in between losses which carries them, because Blizzard don't lose money on someone who will never open their wallet anyway but they can use these people for advertising -  to give the illusion that everyone can be successful. Kind of like how Facebook use people for marketing. Fucking disgusting but nonetheless brilliant. Who knows how exactly it works, but no one can convince me that the game is not rigged.

 You got tinfoil gloves to go with your hat there, buddy?

 Got any salt to go with your offtopic smugness, little troll?  

 The matchmaking is definitely rigged based on my testing. Ben Brode appears to simply be lying when he says match ups are determined solely on rank and not on deck content.

I played 42 consecutive games with an off-meta control priest not using current expansion cards (designed to wreck Shaman)  and faced a high proportion of control decks warrior, Druid, priest etc often running C'thun (ranks 18-16). I then switched to a midrange Shaman, played 42 more in the same rank range, and the proportion of C'thun and control decks dropped and the proportion of midrange decks suddenly jumped dramatically.

Using confidence intervals for proportions I can state that the difference in proportions faced by the two deck types was statistically significant with 95% confidence. In other words there is less than a 5% chance (1 in 20) that simple 'bad luck' explains the change. Now, this is not a bulletproof test, but I do have a postgraduate degre in Statistics and this does seem to suggest match ups are rigged based on your deck type.

My theory is the matchmaking is designed to create match ups that convince people to play the current expansion cards that blizzard wants to sell. 

No tinfoil hat required - just some data and a little math.

 

You understand that 5% isn't that small? You have a sample size of 1 player, and there are 40 million accounts. Now go check how much 0.95^40 000 000 is.

This Brawl is the dumbest bullshit I've ever seen. After 6 games still no Chance to win. My board gets cleared, my 8 health taunt minions get sapped or removed and my face gets pyroblasted. I'm so tired of Blizzard's bullshit.

Next game: T1 Hunter Plays injured Kvaldir . Gets healed to full HP + taunt. Yep thats my RNG...

The whole fucking retarded team that made trogg, tottemic, ff, bnoom, mc and mad scientist  deserve to get assfucked by a random object every time one of those cards s played.

I tried playing some tempo mage today and I won only once. Between zoo, face warrior, and shaman trash I got so fed up, so angry, I felt my sanity slipping. This is Rank 17 here, not hard, but I couldn't catch a break and my opponent can kill me with nothing on board from 22.

Then I played a single game of Hunter, which I won by going face face face while the C'Thun druid tried to face-race, but he simply couldn't keep up. I'm done for today, for the next couple of days. This game is getting worse and not only are the devs taking their sweet time with a solution, I'm starting to doubt they'll even try.

I want to play interesting matches, give and take, puzzling out a path to victory. But those decks lose to the vomit decks, and it's making me want to vomit too.

Seriously, since last patch, I can't connect to this game once every 3 matches. While the res tof the internet goes wonderfully. What is this?

Soooo many wankers playing Shaman. They should all form a gigantic circle 600 miles in diameter,  then they could each hold the cock of the guy on their left and go for the Guinness world record of circle jerks! 

Please rope all Shaman players from turn one. It's community service.

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Soooo many wankers playing Shaman. They should all form a gigantic circle 600 miles in diameter,  then they could each hold the cock of the guy on their left and go for the Guinness world record of circle jerks! 

Please rope all Shaman players from turn one. It's community service.

 Hey, I've just noticed a pattern is all. When people greet, turns out they have a very good opening hand, I'd say 90% of the time. And to be frank, I hold a very low opinion of the very character of people who will bring FACE SHAMAN into casual mode, where I spend most of my time. Because guess what happens, on average, when I beat one of these players: after getting roped a few turns, "your opponent left."