I think that maybe I missed the part where I directed an insult of any kind toward any specific person or even group of people?
So by saying that aggro players have zero thought you not intend to insult that group of people? Ok, fine, whatever.
No, I can see where the misunderstanding is. if you go back and read what I wrote, I said that for me, my “nightmare meta” was (among other things) “anything like that that requires zero thought to play”. As you can see, I directed thoughts about a deck. An object. A stack of cards. And not a person or people. I certainly didnt claim that people who played those decks were incapable of thought. I have played some of those decks myself, so I would include myself in those players. And I still know they require little effort to pilot.
If, as you say, your English is not very good, then I understand this may have been misinterpreted. Its fine, No harm done, and we can move on,
Perfect meta: Floods of Aggro decks and games that end before turn 6. Alternatively, full control meta where every game is at least 15 turns, unless opponent concedes, because they're too weak to watch having their board wiped every turn, and while having to face endless Taunts and healing (works best with cards that shuffle cards into decks, so dying from fatigue takes long)
Nightmare Meta: Control decks that require strategy and thought to win, but end games within 15 turns. OTK decks (unless without options to disable / counter them) Finally, aggro if it doesn't have free draw, and can only keep less than 6 damage to face per turn on average
Edit: Made some changes
My personal preferences really must have bothered you, hey? lol Not sure why, though.
Perfect meta: Floods of Aggro decks and games that end before turn 6. Alternatively, full control meta where every game is at least 15 turns, unless opponent concedes, because they're too weak to watch having their board wiped every turn, and while having to face endless Taunts and healing (works best with cards that shuffle cards into decks, so dying from fatigue takes long)
Nightmare Meta: Control decks that require strategy and thought to win, but end games within 15 turns. OTK decks (unless without options to disable / counter them) Finally, aggro if it doesn't have free draw, and can only keep less than 6 damage to face per turn on average
Edit: Made some changes
My personal preferences really must have bothered you, hey? lol Not sure why, though.
Nah, I just try to be funny too much
Oh I hear that. I often try to be funny too. On a rare occasion I may even succeed. 😂
Ideal meta would be where at Control and Tempo are both viable. Midrange is dead (outside Classic) and Aggro will almost always find a way to be viable, ergo the exclusion. Past that, a fair amount of class representation to keep things from getting too stale.
Nightmare Meta would be where a Tempo List on steroids needs a complete bullshit overperforming card like Objection! to stay relevant (in Wild).
Nightmare meta is basically the one we have right now, where most games are decided by which class you get drawn against and/or by turn 6. Control is dead (due to OTK), damage from hand is high (with never ending resources) and high-roll potential is off the charts.
Doesn't really matter to me what the high meta is like, i.e. what relation tier 1 and 2 decks are in to each other. Some players seem to think there's no objective power level, that if everything is broken then nothing is, but I think the opposite is case. There very much is an objective base level for the power levels of cards and decks which is the vanilla stats. The optimal meta is one where the power level is as low as possible, so that forgotten archetypes and janky meme decks have maximum possible playability.
No, I can see where the misunderstanding is. if you go back and read what I wrote, I said that for me, my “nightmare meta” was (among other things) “anything like that that requires zero thought to play”.
As you can see, I directed thoughts about a deck. An object. A stack of cards. And not a person or people. I certainly didnt claim that people who played those decks were incapable of thought. I have played some of those decks myself, so I would include myself in those players. And I still know they require little effort to pilot.
If, as you say, your English is not very good, then I understand this may have been misinterpreted. Its fine, No harm done, and we can move on,
Nah, I just try to be funny too much
Oh I hear that. I often try to be funny too. On a rare occasion I may even succeed. 😂
Ideal meta is where no braindead control decks exist who just click removal on the minions
Nightmare is when they bring dr boom hero card and elysiana back to standard and we have again turn 50 ties
combo decks that cant otk you on turn 4 would be a start
An actual card game; not a card draw competition.
Ideal meta would be where at Control and Tempo are both viable. Midrange is dead (outside Classic) and Aggro will almost always find a way to be viable, ergo the exclusion. Past that, a fair amount of class representation to keep things from getting too stale.
Nightmare Meta would be where a Tempo List on steroids needs a complete bullshit overperforming card like Objection! to stay relevant (in Wild).
Nightmare meta is basically the one we have right now, where most games are decided by which class you get drawn against and/or by turn 6. Control is dead (due to OTK), damage from hand is high (with never ending resources) and high-roll potential is off the charts.
Doesn't really matter to me what the high meta is like, i.e. what relation tier 1 and 2 decks are in to each other. Some players seem to think there's no objective power level, that if everything is broken then nothing is, but I think the opposite is case. There very much is an objective base level for the power levels of cards and decks which is the vanilla stats. The optimal meta is one where the power level is as low as possible, so that forgotten archetypes and janky meme decks have maximum possible playability.
"What's your ideal perfect meta, and whats your nightmare meta?"
My personal, subjective "perfect meta": As much board based aggro and midrange decks as possible.
My personal, subjective "nightmare meta": As much spell based control and combo decks as possible.