The fact that the majority of my matches over the last week have been against a "Control Armor Deathrattle Taunt Mill" Druid is absolutely bullshit.
Blizzard just lets Druid do whatever the fuck it wants and what it wants is everything. If we had one expansion where druid (and hunter) were just garbage tier, I'd be so happy.
The only way it looks like that'll happen is if Druid just straight rotated out of standard. 11 classes in standard is a dumb number anyways.
"This should be in the salt thread" - this comment section (2022)
Druid was garbage tier for most of the first couple of expansions of HS. Hunter wasn't that high up either tbh.
In fact, until the origin Spell Hunter and Odd Hunter decks came along, Hunter was mostly a one-trick pony of a class that was extremely easy to play around.
Putting aside whatever you think they are like now (personally, I believe there are much worse decks to play against right now: Implock, Miracle Pally, pretty much any Mage deck - secrets or frost, etc), they aren't dominant by any means and have definitely seen metas where they were left on the heap.
Druid was garbage tier for most of the first couple of expansions of HS. Hunter wasn't that high up either tbh.
In fact, until the origin Spell Hunter and Odd Hunter decks came along, Hunter was mostly a one-trick pony of a class that was extremely easy to play around.
Putting aside whatever you think they are like now (personally, I believe there are much worse decks to play against right now: Implock, Miracle Pally, pretty much any Mage deck - secrets or frost, etc), they aren't dominant by any means and have definitely seen metas where they were left on the heap.
event with the edit: Druid and Hunter were the strongest classes for a long time, the devs nerf target a lot of the cards that make Druid and Hunter strong until they become bad for a short time, them they go back to the top. Aggro Hunter was not a tier 1 top dog all th expansions ? Sure, it was always the faster deck for ladder and one of the most efficients. I remember one of my best climbs in the game just before league of explorers was Tempo Hunter in a really cheap shell. Easy Climb.
Ramp Druid when Fandral was release in the DK era? Probably my favorite control oriente druid deck forever. Crazy come back potential, snowball effect. literally the top dog with most complains in th game at that time thanks to certain card that was literally Cruel Ultimatun from MTG with a mini tribute in the name too. I get bored of both classes pretty fast because they just keep becoming more easy to play and still too over the top.
Druid may have been the "strongest" class in the history of the game, depending on how you define a class's strength. Rogue is still the class to be top tier for most expansions thou. Since druid isn't meant to excel in countering the opponents plays, but rather outrun every class in raw power, it's easy to hate the class and feel like giving up, when it seems like no other class can beat the mid/late-game of a ramp druid.
However, we are supposed to kill them with aggro, but what card flinging mastermind doesn't play some ultra brainy homemade control deck here, am I right? ;)
Druid was garbage tier for most of the first couple of expansions of HS. Hunter wasn't that high up either tbh.
This guy clearly knows his sh*t.
Thank you. I do, yes. Not sure why you cherry-picked a couple of one-off exceptions to the rule as if they were some sort of "gotcha", but you do you. :-)
Druid was garbage tier for most of the first couple of expansions of HS. Hunter wasn't that high up either tbh.
This guy clearly knows his sh*t.
Thank you. I do, yes. Not sure why you cherry-picked a couple of one-off exceptions to the rule as if they were some sort of "gotcha", but you do you. :-)
Token druid has been meta in a lot of formats. Ramp Druid too. Before both archtypes, Combo druid with force of nature was one of the strongest and most nerfed decks.
Token Druid wasn't really that viable an option in early Hearthstone. It was around, sure, but nowhere near the oppressiveness of its current version.
In any case, the point is not whether there was a good deck available for a class or not, it was the state of the class overall when looking at all viable deck options and formats compared to the others. Face Hunter might have been an A-Tier deck, but it was pretty much the only option for Hunter. So the lack of deck diversity meant the class overall was pretty bad in terms of choice, with a single viable option that was good.
The fact that the majority of my matches over the last week have been against a "Control Armor Deathrattle Taunt Mill" Druid is absolutely bullshit.
Blizzard just lets Druid do whatever the fuck it wants and what it wants is everything.
If we had one expansion where druid (and hunter) were just garbage tier, I'd be so happy.
The only way it looks like that'll happen is if Druid just straight rotated out of standard.
11 classes in standard is a dumb number anyways.
"This should be in the salt thread" - this comment section (2022)
We just need less mana cheating
DJ
Would love a 'steal all armor' or 'convert enemy armor into health' minion/spell.
Thanks for making me type less.
If you want to have your own thread, make it a discussion, suggest solutions. Rotating a whole class because you lost some games is neither.
Guff’s time is drawing close. Without guff, that’s a whole different game.
Druid was garbage tier for most of the first couple of expansions of HS.
Hunter wasn't that high up either tbh.
In fact, until the origin Spell Hunter and Odd Hunter decks came along, Hunter was mostly a one-trick pony of a class that was extremely easy to play around.
Putting aside whatever you think they are like now (personally, I believe there are much worse decks to play against right now: Implock, Miracle Pally, pretty much any Mage deck - secrets or frost, etc), they aren't dominant by any means and have definitely seen metas where they were left on the heap.
This guy clearly knows his sh*t.
event with the edit: Druid and Hunter were the strongest classes for a long time, the devs nerf target a lot of the cards that make Druid and Hunter strong until they become bad for a short time, them they go back to the top. Aggro Hunter was not a tier 1 top dog all th expansions ? Sure, it was always the faster deck for ladder and one of the most efficients. I remember one of my best climbs in the game just before league of explorers was Tempo Hunter in a really cheap shell. Easy Climb.
Ramp Druid when Fandral was release in the DK era? Probably my favorite control oriente druid deck forever. Crazy come back potential, snowball effect. literally the top dog with most complains in th game at that time thanks to certain card that was literally Cruel Ultimatun from MTG with a mini tribute in the name too. I get bored of both classes pretty fast because they just keep becoming more easy to play and still too over the top.
Druid may have been the "strongest" class in the history of the game, depending on how you define a class's strength. Rogue is still the class to be top tier for most expansions thou. Since druid isn't meant to excel in countering the opponents plays, but rather outrun every class in raw power, it's easy to hate the class and feel like giving up, when it seems like no other class can beat the mid/late-game of a ramp druid.
However, we are supposed to kill them with aggro, but what card flinging mastermind doesn't play some ultra brainy homemade control deck here, am I right? ;)
Thank you. I do, yes.
Not sure why you cherry-picked a couple of one-off exceptions to the rule as if they were some sort of "gotcha", but you do you. :-)
Token druid has been meta in a lot of formats. Ramp Druid too. Before both archtypes, Combo druid with force of nature was one of the strongest and most nerfed decks.
Token Druid wasn't really that viable an option in early Hearthstone. It was around, sure, but nowhere near the oppressiveness of its current version.
In any case, the point is not whether there was a good deck available for a class or not, it was the state of the class overall when looking at all viable deck options and formats compared to the others.
Face Hunter might have been an A-Tier deck, but it was pretty much the only option for Hunter. So the lack of deck diversity meant the class overall was pretty bad in terms of choice, with a single viable option that was good.