Dont missunderstand me i like the new class and that stuff, but i feel its too late.
They hold the game a little when they drop the battlegrounds siezing the hype of the autobattle games.
They try with mercenaries too.
But man i feel that they got this class created sience Frozen throne but they just keep holding It back waiting for a moment like this.
Im talking about Marvel SNAP, im not sayng that this game will replace HS, im not even sayng that SNAP will last a year.
Im jut thinking that HS cant hold the interest anymore, wich is completly fine, 8 years on the "top" of the card games, but with all the cosmetics, in bg, mercs, and the usual cheap made skins i just feel they just wanna squeez of what is left and move.
I just feel that HS is out of ideas now, un drop the lich because they need to retake the hype again, not because It was planned to drop after this expansion. Idk im still enjoyng HS but dot feel It the same way, neither the devs work or the gameplay experience thats all
Can only speak for myself but constructed Hearthstone has lost it's appeal - I just don't like how the games play out these days, the powercreep has gone too far, makes it feel like a single-player game too often. I only play Battelgrounds now. I'll give the new class a try at launch, who knows, it might inspire me to play constructed again.
Marvel Snap is alright, but long term I don't see me playing it, as I just don't have enough interest in Marvel characters, outside of Guardians and Spiderman. I couldn't take any of the Avengers films seriously, and I feel like the idea of pretending all these super-heroes exist in the same reality totally undermines them. Feel the same about DCU - like, Batman is cool..why undermine the character by pretending he exists in the same time and place as Superman and Wonderwoman...it's just kinda lame to me.
Thats my point, i dont feel they same way playng standard, and what i mean with SNAP is that they drop the deathkingt because o it, not about SNAP itself.
Can u please read my point please, i already said that i bet that HS will stand SNAP but i fell that HS will be going down, like all Blizzard competitive games
SNAP will NEVER replace HS but the fact that a casual game like that can naked HS drop the deathkingth and give the 150 packs for returning players is because they really need yo people come back
I think HS is in a very good shape. better than ever. I enjoy arena a few times a week. playing BG once in a while. New event system. new class. Patch note and new stuff lonbger than the bible.
Would love a new client, Ui overhaul, revamp arena, but they work on alot of stuff all the time and releasing new stuff many times a year.
TBH offpost im not really sure what you are complaning about.. you say you like the new stuff, and rant about it being too late. HS will still be around a running fine in 5 years, im almost 100% sure
I played Magic the Gathering 20 years ago. The game is still there and will always be (it's like Lego, chess or poker, etc.. an eternal game). I recognized from the start, 7 years ago that HS has the same characterists of longevity. Might be a strange idea to some "players", that a game could be eternal, but this game will always be.
I'm not a dellusional fan boy (nor a hard core gamer), but just realistic from my own experience :)
what u're seeing is buyer resistant retention falling
we are fortunate to have other devs and games like marvel snap eating into the CCG pie
it gives us a COMPARISON whether small or large and gives COMPETITION competition BREEDS better CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE and it overall positive for EVERYONE.
Companies don't care about ANYTHING don't care about colour blind deaf people having no access to the game no one cares. but they care about the bottom LINE if people vote with their wallets SURVEYS GO OUT they find ways to HEAVILY MONETISE PUSH more blood from a stone etc etc and try all other avenues they can even destroy their own game! but hopefully in some last ditch effort of being NOT INSANE they think about the customer and offer better deals and rewards and they will see the customer base slowly come back....
i'm a loyal customer but i vote with my wallet. i'm not a hypocrite that complains then whales out then excuses cuz i can claim on taxes. be apart of the solution not the problem and please brothers and sisters vote with your wallet with enough NUMBERS and affecting their bottom line with the microsoft merger i'm sure some one in that department will hopefully see sense and reason and offer what ALL OF US GAMERS WANT a GOOD FAIR SOLID DECENT EXPERIENCE. i never complain about the polish of the game the quality is there besides a few bugs etc etc but the heavy handed monetisation strategies are falling flat and they are doing constant surveys to LEARN how to EXTRACT more money. just vote with your wallet guys thanks for the read
Well actually u can play It on pc, but whatever, u are not getting my point, is not about SNAP replacing HS or somrething like that but again my thougths was that a "mobile Game" forced HS to drop DK and 150 packs to returning players
The fire to play constructive has gone out for a while for me already. I basically only play Battleground these days. Simply because I don't think the game in it's current state is worth the money.
You compare 2 different card games. And the animations in HS are still better then in Marvel SNAP.
Lich King should have been released on the start of the new standard season, but better late then never.
HS is not going anywhere.
Animations are far better in Marvel Snap. HS can only dream these animations. Check the animation of Galactus for example, how cool is it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy-VjFbF-x4
If you also know the Marvel's world, the relationship between animation/superpowers/effects of the cards is truly impressive.
Marvel Snap has also 4 animations:
When you move the card from your hand to the battlefield
When the card enters the battlefield
When the card is in the battlefield
When the card is killed
HS has only one animation (when the card enters the battlefield) for very few cards.
8 years is nothing, WoW says hello. Blizzard knows how to hook in their player base just fine, regardless if you like them or not. SNAP is not a competitor for Hearthstone, they're just hoping to tap into the Marvel market and make a few bucks along the way.
8 years is nothing, WoW says hello. Blizzard knows how to hook in their player base just fine, regardless if you like them or not. SNAP is not a competitor for Hearthstone, they're just hoping to tap into the Marvel market and make a few bucks along the way.
Marvel Snap is the closest card game that can be considered a threat for HS, that game is really fun bro
I think a good way to dampen the hatred for how they've been making the cards is a hard split. Renathal and whatever comes next in matchmaking pool, pure aggro turn 7 or lose on another. It's literally the only way to keep casuals playing and easily discarded or matched for tournaments. I like the game, like playing aggro and control but as cards keep evolving it's to much in one unclean pool. (curse warlock = worst idea ever.)
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Dont missunderstand me i like the new class and that stuff, but i feel its too late.
They hold the game a little when they drop the battlegrounds siezing the hype of the autobattle games.
They try with mercenaries too.
But man i feel that they got this class created sience Frozen throne but they just keep holding It back waiting for a moment like this.
Im talking about Marvel SNAP, im not sayng that this game will replace HS, im not even sayng that SNAP will last a year.
Im jut thinking that HS cant hold the interest anymore, wich is completly fine, 8 years on the "top" of the card games, but with all the cosmetics, in bg, mercs, and the usual cheap made skins i just feel they just wanna squeez of what is left and move.
Thougths?
You compare 2 different card games. And the animations in HS are still better then in Marvel SNAP.
Lich King should have been released on the start of the new standard season, but better late then never.
HS is not going anywhere.
Remember when all the other games were going to take away interest in Hearthstone? Where are they now? And where is Hearthstone?
I'm not saying Hearthstone is in a good place. I'm just saying maybe wait until something comes along that is actually able to compete meaningfully.
I just feel that HS is out of ideas now, un drop the lich because they need to retake the hype again, not because It was planned to drop after this expansion. Idk im still enjoyng HS but dot feel It the same way, neither the devs work or the gameplay experience thats all
Can only speak for myself but constructed Hearthstone has lost it's appeal - I just don't like how the games play out these days, the powercreep has gone too far, makes it feel like a single-player game too often. I only play Battelgrounds now. I'll give the new class a try at launch, who knows, it might inspire me to play constructed again.
Marvel Snap is alright, but long term I don't see me playing it, as I just don't have enough interest in Marvel characters, outside of Guardians and Spiderman. I couldn't take any of the Avengers films seriously, and I feel like the idea of pretending all these super-heroes exist in the same reality totally undermines them. Feel the same about DCU - like, Batman is cool..why undermine the character by pretending he exists in the same time and place as Superman and Wonderwoman...it's just kinda lame to me.
Im not sayng that SNAP will replace HS actually o bet for HS to still standing im just upset about the way the devs are carryng the game
I remember when Artefact (lol 3 screens cards game, genius), and how it put HS out of business... Oh wait. Artefact died long ago.
Thats my point, i dont feel they same way playng standard, and what i mean with SNAP is that they drop the deathkingt because o it, not about SNAP itself.
Can u please read my point please, i already said that i bet that HS will stand SNAP but i fell that HS will be going down, like all Blizzard competitive games
SNAP will NEVER replace HS but the fact that a casual game like that can naked HS drop the deathkingth and give the 150 packs for returning players is because they really need yo people come back
I think HS is in a very good shape. better than ever. I enjoy arena a few times a week. playing BG once in a while. New event system. new class. Patch note and new stuff lonbger than the bible.
Would love a new client, Ui overhaul, revamp arena, but they work on alot of stuff all the time and releasing new stuff many times a year.
TBH offpost im not really sure what you are complaning about.. you say you like the new stuff, and rant about it being too late. HS will still be around a running fine in 5 years, im almost 100% sure
I played Magic the Gathering 20 years ago. The game is still there and will always be (it's like Lego, chess or poker, etc.. an eternal game).
I recognized from the start, 7 years ago that HS has the same characterists of longevity.
Might be a strange idea to some "players", that a game could be eternal, but this game will always be.
I'm not a dellusional fan boy (nor a hard core gamer), but just realistic from my own experience :)
personally this is my take
what u're seeing is buyer resistant retention falling
we are fortunate to have other devs and games like marvel snap eating into the CCG pie
it gives us a COMPARISON whether small or large and gives COMPETITION competition BREEDS better CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE and it overall positive for EVERYONE.
Companies don't care about ANYTHING don't care about colour blind deaf people having no access to the game no one cares. but they care about the bottom LINE if people vote with their wallets SURVEYS GO OUT they find ways to HEAVILY MONETISE PUSH more blood from a stone etc etc and try all other avenues they can even destroy their own game! but hopefully in some last ditch effort of being NOT INSANE they think about the customer and offer better deals and rewards and they will see the customer base slowly come back....
i'm a loyal customer but i vote with my wallet. i'm not a hypocrite that complains then whales out then excuses cuz i can claim on taxes. be apart of the solution not the problem and please brothers and sisters vote with your wallet with enough NUMBERS and affecting their bottom line with the microsoft merger i'm sure some one in that department will hopefully see sense and reason and offer what ALL OF US GAMERS WANT a GOOD FAIR SOLID DECENT EXPERIENCE. i never complain about the polish of the game the quality is there besides a few bugs etc etc but the heavy handed monetisation strategies are falling flat and they are doing constant surveys to LEARN how to EXTRACT more money. just vote with your wallet guys thanks for the read
Nobody even knows what snap is, and its mobile only. Tried it for 10mins and deleted.
Well actually u can play It on pc, but whatever, u are not getting my point, is not about SNAP replacing HS or somrething like that but again my thougths was that a "mobile Game" forced HS to drop DK and 150 packs to returning players
The fire to play constructive has gone out for a while for me already. I basically only play Battleground these days.
Simply because I don't think the game in it's current state is worth the money.
Animations are far better in Marvel Snap. HS can only dream these animations. Check the animation of Galactus for example, how cool is it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy-VjFbF-x4
If you also know the Marvel's world, the relationship between animation/superpowers/effects of the cards is truly impressive.
Marvel Snap has also 4 animations:
HS has only one animation (when the card enters the battlefield) for very few cards.
Thoughts ? Join my HS Group Deinstallation Ceremonial Thread coming in under 4 weeks.
8 years is nothing, WoW says hello. Blizzard knows how to hook in their player base just fine, regardless if you like them or not. SNAP is not a competitor for Hearthstone, they're just hoping to tap into the Marvel market and make a few bucks along the way.
Marvel Snap is the closest card game that can be considered a threat for HS, that game is really fun bro
I think a good way to dampen the hatred for how they've been making the cards is a hard split. Renathal and whatever comes next in matchmaking pool, pure aggro turn 7 or lose on another. It's literally the only way to keep casuals playing and easily discarded or matched for tournaments. I like the game, like playing aggro and control but as cards keep evolving it's to much in one unclean pool. (curse warlock = worst idea ever.)