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I agree that most (but not all) of these cards seem bad in the current meta. That said, neither you nor I know what the next meta will look like, so it's not possible to say whether these cards will see play or not.
The Jailer could be shit, or it could end up busted. Maybe there's a crazy quest warlock build just waiting to be found which uses this as a finisher (or even a Cariel build to lower fatigue?). He's likely to be good against Druid/Paladin (I can't think of any good removal that they have which will work - Maybe Deathwing?), so this card might end up pushing druid out the meta to some extent.
I would strongly diasgree with your assessment of Order in the Court. I think this might make Paladin decks viable (which in itself could really shake up the meta). I can see a Dude-Denathrius paladin being close to viable....maybe....
p.s. only talking about standard here.
You could stop reading at giving order of the court 1 star, OP has no clue about the game based on that alone ;)
No that's just your uninformed/trolling opinion of my opinion. 22 out of 35 cards are in my post, the others are worth playing in my informed opinion. The only thing you see in my post is negativity because it is literally the point of this thread lol, read the title.
Every 4 month I read arrogant replies like this on some of my reviews, more often than not I was right and the arrogant man went missing ;)
Come fight me whenever you want, best of 5, any constructed format, see who has no clue. You won't, obviously, arrogance and bravery are mutually exclusive.
Also giving weapons expert 1 star :D What are you, rank bronze 10?
I'm not even going to bother explaining, just watch today's review from feno, thijs and hunterace on why you're dead wrong on both weapon expert and order of the court, and dead wrong on sylvanas.
To the people who claim order of the court is good with Denathrius, that's gonna require a pretty intensly low curve deck to work. Because yeah, you'll draw Denat instantly, cool story. Then you'll draw your second highest cost card. Probably don't wanna do that until quite late in the game unless your second highest cost card is 3 mana or something.
In reality it's not gonna work as a consistent deck, either order of the court will be a dead draw or you play order of the court and draw dead draws for multiple turns in a row, or your curve is so fucked up to make this work that the deck is nowhere near balanced against other real decks.
There's a reason Denathrius decks in wild don't give a shit about Polkelt, there's a reason Polkelt was unnerfed.
Some posters are mean to me but at least they are brave enough to try and counter my arguments, you won't even bother, cause you know you can't. I think you are the single least informed player about game mechanics in this thread by far.
There's litereally no review in your post history, only one of the worst druid deck monstrosities i have ever seen in this https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/253781-druid-is-so-op-that-you-can-actually-play-big
I don't need to play games to point out that you're spouting a load of uninformed nonsense about these cards. But ofcourse the whole rest of the thread is wrong and you are right, what was that about arrogance again?
Again, watch the combined feno/hunterace/thijs review from today, they're way better than me at completely butchering your review with theirs ;)
They can watch my review on why they are dead wrong as well, you don't need to worship them because they make videos, that's embarassing.
Why did you edit your insult from rank bronze 25 to 10 ? It's less funny this way, edit it back.
'Because they make videos'
Yeah, so 3 players who have been among the best of the best for years. All 3 of them who have been GM's, 2 of them who won one or multiple World championships, are just known for making videos....
And somehow, a random dude on the forum who gives 1 star to what will likely turn out to be the most broken paladin card in years, has a more valid opinion on these cards...
Ok dude, i'm done here.
Wrong, you just don't want to embarass yourself when faced with the opportunity to prove your claim.
But you can't explain how, you need to rely on other people's reviews ROFL.
I defend my opinions especially against braindead youtube worshippers like you, nobody is right or wrong until the set is released and experimented with for at least a month.
Again, they can watch mine, I'm way better than you at butchering their review, so what. One thing that we have in common, is that we're all way better than you.
Also they make money from Blizzard products and obviously overrate every single card. Even then I'm pretty sure we agree on some of them. If you're telling me they think Tight-Lipped Witness is a good card, I will cringe so hard I might actually watch their review and have a good laugh about it.
Yes, you are done with your authoritative arguments here, come back with opinions of your own, good bye lord worshipper.
Everyone makes mistakes when reviewing new cards. Including the best players in the world. There's no telling now who between them and me will turn out to be wrong. Nobody gives a crap who you worship, I care about your opinions on cards, not theirs, or else I'd watch their review not make my own.
This dude "PetiteMouche" never has any clue what he is talking about when it comes to Hearthstone. 🙄
Like half of these cards you mention are incredibly efficient in a "competent" player's hands.
Sure, you think The Jailer suxx ? I'll farm you with my Questlock Day 1, son. 😄
Other weird ratings of yours include..
Motion Denied - easy 5 Stars in Face Huntard, not sure how someone can't see that
Contract Conjurer - play 2 Secrets in a turn this costs 0 Mana - broken. 4 Mana 7-7 with Overload was a Meme that was linked to something broken, this one is much better, this is almost always at least 3 Mana 6-6 (without downside) And fyi Kabal Crystal Runner was also a really strong card (still is in Wild)
Prosecutor Mel'tranix - Heavily underrated apparently, this is even more efficient than Loatheb most of the times, but it requires the right deck, and DR probably isn't the right class for this to be S Tier. Still on it's own, once you establish a threatening board this is a insane tempo finisher card, especially against Midrange & Control.
OP is clearing trolling. Already reported all they do is ignore posted facts and incite and belittle anyone who's not with them.
I agree with you Bro. Senseless thread though.
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As a Wild legend player, when only considering the pure Meta, OP is pretty much spot on with his analysis although I admit the phrasing is sometimes harsh. Sure, you can play these cards and sure, you can win games with these cards but they will not touch the wild meta. Keep in mind, we have things like Even Shaman winning on turn 3-4, Pirate Rogue/Warriors winning on 4-5, Res Priests and combo or control decks where each and EVERY one runs the Brann Bronzebeard+Zola the Gorgon+Theotar, the Mad Duke+Blademaster Okani+Loatheb+Mutanus the Devourer+Sire Denathrius package. Against these decks you absolutely do not want to expose to your opponent that you have Sire Denathrius in hand, as otherwise they can ignore board for a turn and Theotar, the Mad Duke or Mutanus the Devourer you 3-4 times per turn until they get him. And for most control decks, Sire Denathrius is the biggest win con, if not the only real one. Having it stolen is pretty much an auto-loss. Also you cannot have slow plays vs. them as OP pointed out correctly.
As for Life Sentence, well it is just a worse Polymorph. Yes, its worse. Almost strictly. Polymorph does the better job against Res Priest which is the only deck you would want a card like this anyway. And Polymorph also taints the res pool which ruins potential future plays. So yeah I'm with OP on pretty much all cards evaluations as long as you strictly respect the wild Meta, they will have no more than fun play roles (as shown by creators like Roffle already with Holy Wrath Paladin). Keep in mind: Fun is good enough to even win games in legend but if you play 500 games you will not have too positive of a score. Thats the important message.
Shudder don't need Siamat or Torghast Custodian to be good you can just kill your opponent by just playing Denathrius
Well this aged poorly. I've been killing it with Jailer in Warlock. Mass removal does nothing when you just fill the board with Imps next turn from Neeru again (and that's not even touching on questlock that can kill you with fatigue all the faster now)
Only thing that really can hurt it is mass polymorph, and still the sheep will eventually kill them.
PS: I take it you've not seen the numerous jailer paladin decks that are absolutely crushing it?
Based on what Ive seen Order in the Court is the only viable card so far, and simply that's due to getting cariel on curve can stabilize or back break anything that's not a complete blowout.
Shade Hound is great. I think this is the best card in the set (subjectively. It's one of my favourites at least) But then you could say it's being carried by Hunter being generally powerful at the moment.
From my own testing though, and what I've heard from other people, the card is good.
Personally I actually like the Afterlife attendant as well. I've managed to get decent value from it whenever I've played it in the new Infuse Hunter deck.
I understand these are my personal choices though. What I think is the best card is mostly subjective.
Also that Paladin card is very nice as well. I guess we're going to be seeing that Snake with weapon removal a lot more now, LoL.