I'm mostly a control-focsed player. I like strong decks. I have long thought that HS needed 40 health to slow the meta down and now it's finally here, but the problem is that in TCGs it's usually bad to have more cards than minimum, and you want your deck to be more focused.
Are there any good decks with him in mind? Has priest, warrior or paladin maybe made some good decks yet?
Try making something yourself, mister netdecker, don't wait for theory crafting streams or the VS report. Maybe you're the next Habu and come up with something great!
This culture of waiting and just netdecking is why they started throwing big changes every two weeks to keep stuff fresh. People WILL end up getting burnt out if they keep this up.
For the most players it is nearly impossible to create a deck which is somehow able to win.
For example: i got 2 friends who realy like playing Hearthstone but they know nothing about deckbuilding or how to create a deck. They dont even know how to netdeck. They always ask me to "put some decks in their account". And i'd say that is okay. Not everybody is willing to put much effort into building and testing a deck (me neither).
If your making decisions based on hard data, you’ll have to wait a few days for aggregate sites to compile stuff.
however, it appears that control decks are benefiting from Prince Renethal quite a bit. Adding more tech cards and draw is great. At first glance, curse warlock seems to really like this guy. I’m personally trying quest shaman, but having very little success.
Your first step would be to just Google decklists. Most of the stuff posted on sites like this, especially the day after release, ant be very good, but it’s a good place to start. Happy playing!
For the most players it is nearly impossible to create a deck which is somehow able to win.
For example: i got 2 friends who realy like playing Hearthstone but they know nothing about deckbuilding or how to create a deck. They dont even know how to netdeck. They always ask me to "put some decks in their account". And i'd say that is okay. Not everybody is willing to put much effort into building and testing a deck (me neither).
It's fine for new players, no problem, but he-s 'control-focused' and likes 'strong decks'. Plus he has starting blueprints to develop Renathal decks on, he's not doing it from scratch.
Renathal locks I've seen so far seem to have issues pushing their curse count fast enough because of the extra inconsistency in drawing. Decks with clear mid-game plans seem to struggle a bit with Renathal, like curse lock and big spell mage, seems like a trap in those. So far it seemed fine in druid and quest priest attempts in what i faced.
I think he's a trap. Warlock still sucks against real decks, Big Spell Mage doesn't really get better with him, Druid might be the only high tier deck that really benefits from it. It won't make bad deck a good one, that's for sure. What it might do is keep cancer decks, like Bomb Rogue in check if they become too popular.
I think he's a trap. Warlock still sucks against real decks, Big Spell Mage doesn't really get better with him, Druid might be the only high tier deck that really benefits from it. It won't make bad deck a good one, that's for sure. What it might do is keep cancer decks, like Bomb Rogue in check if they become too popular.
I disagree. A lot of decks that have been deemed as bad is because they take to long to get going. With 40 health that is no longer an issue though. I think we’ll see a lot more viable control decks now because they hve so much more time to stabilize
I’ve finally been able to work in Grand Mage Antonidas with success. Super excited to play him. Fire/Freeze hero power mage great early game, card draw and super strong late game. Best moment was getting immoliated with a full hand. Sir finlied it back in deck to counter only to have him immoliate next turn as well.
Quest priest does really well. I don't have a very large sample but so far it was enjoyable. I had several games where opponent pushed me below 10 hp (i.e. I'd be dead without Renathal) and I was able to stabilize after and snatch the win.
Quest priest does really well. I don't have a very large sample but so far it was enjoyable. I had several games where opponent pushed me below 10 hp (i.e. I'd be dead without Renathal) and I was able to stabilize after and snatch the win.
Big warrior, quest priest, so far for me have been very successful with Renathal, they definitely feel like improved versions, especially against aggro.
It's also very likely that all slow druid decks would benefit from Renathal as well, haven't tried yet.
Thanks me later my friend, 100 % winrate from diamond 2 to Legend
### OTK Dragon Renathal Druid # Class: Druid # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (0) Aquatic Form # 2x (0) Innervate # 1x (1) Ivus, the Forest Lord # 2x (2) Doomsayer # 1x (2) Jerry Rig Carpenter # 2x (2) Living Seed (Rank 1) # 2x (2) Moonlit Guidance # 1x (3) Prince Renathal # 2x (3) Wild Growth # 1x (4) Kazakus, Golem Shaper # 2x (5) Boomkin # 1x (5) Faceless Manipulator # 2x (5) Nourish # 2x (5) Onyxian Warder # 1x (5) Wildheart Guff # 1x (6) Battleground Battlemaster # 2x (6) Best in Shell # 1x (7) Colaque # 2x (7) Druid of the Plains # 1x (7) Mr. Smite # 2x (7) Scale of Onyxia # 1x (8) Kazakusan # 1x (8) Ozumat # 1x (9) Alexstrasza the Life-Binder # 1x (9) Malygos the Spellweaver # 1x (9) Ysera the Dreamer # 1x (10) Neptulon the Tidehunter # 1x (10) Raid Boss Onyxia # AAECAZICEPzoA8f5A7CABL+ABLCKBLSKBLWKBImLBKygBPGkBKWtBISwBKCwBLzOBL/OBJfvBAy27AO+7AOk9gOvgASJnwSunwTanwS6rATJrATPrASuwASd1AQA #
Last 2 months (about 500 games), I stuck in Diamon 3 because Druid was a weakest class. But today I won 10 games in a row and BOOOM !!! (Can't create 40 cards deck in Hearthpwn right now so I post here to share with you all, HS is the best, thanks new game director Dyan)
For the most players it is nearly impossible to create a deck which is somehow able to win.
For example: i got 2 friends who realy like playing Hearthstone but they know nothing about deckbuilding or how to create a deck. They dont even know how to netdeck. They always ask me to "put some decks in their account". And i'd say that is okay. Not everybody is willing to put much effort into building and testing a deck (me neither).
This is something i've heard a lot but I don't quite get it.
Playing hearthstone games literally teaches you how to build hearthstone decks, what cards work well together, what packages, what is good against what... You claim you don't care about it, fine by me. You claim you don't know how to do it, while you're an active player ? I cannot believe you, it's impossible.
Also the beautiful thing about building hearthstone decks, is you kinda know how it will perform, you generally don't need to test it extensively, just 1 or 2 games and you should see what cards need to be replaced and what decks are good matchups.
So yeah, I believe you, people aren't willing to put effort into it even though it's by far the most enjoyable part of the game, but believe me, they know how to build decks, they just rather use you instead of their own time and brain resources.
I think Beast Hunter getting better with extra hp and cards (extra beasts)
Don't think there are any decent extra beasts right now. Maybe the neutral colossal might work with the extra starting life in the Vanndar build. That leaves 8-9 early game survivability cards which might bring down consistency for powerful turn 5-7 plays. The colossal also probably doesn't play well with Ickman if you're running it.
The faster non-Vanndar builds probably prefer lower beast pool for consistency, so 10 extra cards means it's harder to get the Saber going early enough.
Hunter probably doesn't want Prince without the new expansion cards. Who knows, maybe they will bring death rattle hunter back next, in a Renathal deck. Still got swarm, but no glaive to help with it.
QUEST PRIEST ALL DAY EVERYDAY....With guaranteed draw to find shard for the win from Card Name and Card Name, we will win alot more games becuz of that 1o extra health alone........i went 70% yesterday with a Quest Priest list I made.....played all day too.....I am so stoked right now for the game.....thank you dev;s for giving control and the game, such a great addition in 40/40!
For the most players it is nearly impossible to create a deck which is somehow able to win.
For example: i got 2 friends who realy like playing Hearthstone but they know nothing about deckbuilding or how to create a deck. They dont even know how to netdeck. They always ask me to "put some decks in their account". And i'd say that is okay. Not everybody is willing to put much effort into building and testing a deck (me neither).
This is something i've heard a lot but I don't quite get it.
Playing hearthstone games literally teaches you how to build hearthstone decks, what cards work well together, what packages, what is good against what... You claim you don't care about it, fine by me. You claim you don't know how to do it, while you're an active player ? I cannot believe you, it's impossible.
Also the beautiful thing about building hearthstone decks, is you kinda know how it will perform, you generally don't need to test it extensively, just 1 or 2 games and you should see what cards need to be replaced and what decks are good matchups.
So yeah, I believe you, people aren't willing to put effort into it even though it's by far the most enjoyable part of the game, but believe me, they know how to build decks, they just rather use you instead of their own time and brain resources.
I think you over estimate the avg players ability to make a deck that synergizes and works....yes, anyone can put 30 cards together, but to have an idea, build it correctly, and implement it in action is a real skill and not as simple or easy as it sounds....I agree that people are lazy....some people dont enjoy deck building, however, I feel the same as you, that deck building is one of the best aspects of the game!!
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I'm mostly a control-focsed player. I like strong decks. I have long thought that HS needed 40 health to slow the meta down and now it's finally here, but the problem is that in TCGs it's usually bad to have more cards than minimum, and you want your deck to be more focused.
Are there any good decks with him in mind? Has priest, warrior or paladin maybe made some good decks yet?
Try making something yourself, mister netdecker, don't wait for theory crafting streams or the VS report. Maybe you're the next Habu and come up with something great!
This culture of waiting and just netdecking is why they started throwing big changes every two weeks to keep stuff fresh. People WILL end up getting burnt out if they keep this up.
Said someone who never posted any deck created by himself
Neither did I ask for a deck to play myself. Cheers.
For the most players it is nearly impossible to create a deck which is somehow able to win.
For example: i got 2 friends who realy like playing Hearthstone but they know nothing about deckbuilding or how to create a deck. They dont even know how to netdeck. They always ask me to "put some decks in their account". And i'd say that is okay. Not everybody is willing to put much effort into building and testing a deck (me neither).
If your making decisions based on hard data, you’ll have to wait a few days for aggregate sites to compile stuff.
however, it appears that control decks are benefiting from Prince Renethal quite a bit. Adding more tech cards and draw is great. At first glance, curse warlock seems to really like this guy. I’m personally trying quest shaman, but having very little success.
Your first step would be to just Google decklists. Most of the stuff posted on sites like this, especially the day after release, ant be very good, but it’s a good place to start. Happy playing!
Celestial Alignment druid, for instance with Kazakusan, seems quite strong, with a lot of tutoring, card draw and sustain, and a strong win con.
It's fine for new players, no problem, but he-s 'control-focused' and likes 'strong decks'. Plus he has starting blueprints to develop Renathal decks on, he's not doing it from scratch.
Renathal locks I've seen so far seem to have issues pushing their curse count fast enough because of the extra inconsistency in drawing. Decks with clear mid-game plans seem to struggle a bit with Renathal, like curse lock and big spell mage, seems like a trap in those. So far it seemed fine in druid and quest priest attempts in what i faced.
I think he's a trap. Warlock still sucks against real decks, Big Spell Mage doesn't really get better with him, Druid might be the only high tier deck that really benefits from it. It won't make bad deck a good one, that's for sure. What it might do is keep cancer decks, like Bomb Rogue in check if they become too popular.
I disagree. A lot of decks that have been deemed as bad is because they take to long to get going. With 40 health that is no longer an issue though. I think we’ll see a lot more viable control decks now because they hve so much more time to stabilize
I’ve finally been able to work in Grand Mage Antonidas with success. Super excited to play him. Fire/Freeze hero power mage great early game, card draw and super strong late game. Best moment was getting immoliated with a full hand. Sir finlied it back in deck to counter only to have him immoliate next turn as well.
I think Beast Hunter getting better with extra hp and cards (extra beasts)
Quest priest does really well. I don't have a very large sample but so far it was enjoyable. I had several games where opponent pushed me below 10 hp (i.e. I'd be dead without Renathal) and I was able to stabilize after and snatch the win.
Same here.
Big warrior, quest priest, so far for me have been very successful with Renathal, they definitely feel like improved versions, especially against aggro.
It's also very likely that all slow druid decks would benefit from Renathal as well, haven't tried yet.
Thanks me later my friend, 100 % winrate from diamond 2 to Legend
### OTK Dragon Renathal Druid
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Hydra
#
# 2x (0) Aquatic Form
# 2x (0) Innervate
# 1x (1) Ivus, the Forest Lord
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Jerry Rig Carpenter
# 2x (2) Living Seed (Rank 1)
# 2x (2) Moonlit Guidance
# 1x (3) Prince Renathal
# 2x (3) Wild Growth
# 1x (4) Kazakus, Golem Shaper
# 2x (5) Boomkin
# 1x (5) Faceless Manipulator
# 2x (5) Nourish
# 2x (5) Onyxian Warder
# 1x (5) Wildheart Guff
# 1x (6) Battleground Battlemaster
# 2x (6) Best in Shell
# 1x (7) Colaque
# 2x (7) Druid of the Plains
# 1x (7) Mr. Smite
# 2x (7) Scale of Onyxia
# 1x (8) Kazakusan
# 1x (8) Ozumat
# 1x (9) Alexstrasza the Life-Binder
# 1x (9) Malygos the Spellweaver
# 1x (9) Ysera the Dreamer
# 1x (10) Neptulon the Tidehunter
# 1x (10) Raid Boss Onyxia
#
AAECAZICEPzoA8f5A7CABL+ABLCKBLSKBLWKBImLBKygBPGkBKWtBISwBKCwBLzOBL/OBJfvBAy27AO+7AOk9gOvgASJnwSunwTanwS6rATJrATPrASuwASd1AQA
#
Last 2 months (about 500 games), I stuck in Diamon 3 because Druid was a weakest class. But today I won 10 games in a row and BOOOM !!! (Can't create 40 cards deck in Hearthpwn right now so I post here to share with you all, HS is the best, thanks new game director Dyan)
This is something i've heard a lot but I don't quite get it.
Playing hearthstone games literally teaches you how to build hearthstone decks, what cards work well together, what packages, what is good against what... You claim you don't care about it, fine by me. You claim you don't know how to do it, while you're an active player ? I cannot believe you, it's impossible.
Also the beautiful thing about building hearthstone decks, is you kinda know how it will perform, you generally don't need to test it extensively, just 1 or 2 games and you should see what cards need to be replaced and what decks are good matchups.
So yeah, I believe you, people aren't willing to put effort into it even though it's by far the most enjoyable part of the game, but believe me, they know how to build decks, they just rather use you instead of their own time and brain resources.
Don't think there are any decent extra beasts right now. Maybe the neutral colossal might work with the extra starting life in the Vanndar build. That leaves 8-9 early game survivability cards which might bring down consistency for powerful turn 5-7 plays. The colossal also probably doesn't play well with Ickman if you're running it.
The faster non-Vanndar builds probably prefer lower beast pool for consistency, so 10 extra cards means it's harder to get the Saber going early enough.
Hunter probably doesn't want Prince without the new expansion cards. Who knows, maybe they will bring death rattle hunter back next, in a Renathal deck. Still got swarm, but no glaive to help with it.
QUEST PRIEST ALL DAY EVERYDAY....With guaranteed draw to find shard for the win from Card Name and Card Name, we will win alot more games becuz of that 1o extra health alone........i went 70% yesterday with a Quest Priest list I made.....played all day too.....I am so stoked right now for the game.....thank you dev;s for giving control and the game, such a great addition in 40/40!
I think you over estimate the avg players ability to make a deck that synergizes and works....yes, anyone can put 30 cards together, but to have an idea, build it correctly, and implement it in action is a real skill and not as simple or easy as it sounds....I agree that people are lazy....some people dont enjoy deck building, however, I feel the same as you, that deck building is one of the best aspects of the game!!