I have LoE and ONiK unlocked so I can purchase them with gold. Is buying the remaining 5 wings and dusting the cards that don't see play even in wild a better investment than playing arena in an attempt to build out my standard collection?
Greetings! This is an interesting question you have asked. I'll try breaking it down a bit.
The League of Explorers costs 2800 Gold and yields 2585 Dust. One Night in Karazhan costs 2800 Gold and yields 2475 Dust. The total cost is 5600 Gold with a reward of 5060 Dust.
That same cost being spent towards Arena would yield ~37 runs (not including extra from winning gold). The average rewards would yield ~5480 Dust. This is assuming that rewarded Gold is spent towards Packs. On average, spending the rewarded Gold on Arena nets a yield of ~5390 Dust. As you can see, it would be more slightly more efficient to buy packs, unless you are winning with 4+ wins per run. However, this could vary wildly depending on your results.
All options are very close. I would say that it would matter more if there are any specific cards in these expansions you may want. That alone may tip the scale in the expansions' favour. However, if you truly don't care about any of the cards, then Arena may be more efficient. And you are rewarded packs that can directly improve your standard collection. However, if you get less than 3 wins per run on average, you may be better off with the expansions now and save the Arena for later.
There's no strict right or wrong answer here. It more or less depends on exactly what cards you're looking for.
I hope this helps and answers most of your questions.
I think HS mathematics estimated that 1 pack has 100 dust on average so anything that gives you less than 1:1 gold : dust is bad. Explorers have some important wild cards but otherwise play arena if you tend to have a decent win rate (anything that's 3 or more)
I think right now you are in a good spot to start/resume your Standard collection because it's the last expansion this year. But it's a lenghty process. And I wouldn't expect much from future 3 months.
First of all I'd start hoarding gold and packs - Standard and class-specific. Guess "Year of the Phoenix" ones will give the same cards either this or next season so they can be opened safely.
Next I would definitely buy future mini-set - it's 4 legendaries after all.
Then I'd start farming Rewards Track like crazy, including achievements with experience rewards. And even if you are not planning to spend real money I would still consider purchasing a Tavern Pass, it has the best value for money.
I'd have spent all of this gold right at the start of next season (and year), opened seasonal packs first and Standard next to catch up a bit on previous seasons. And then repeat allf of this again.
My main concerns with Arena approach is that you don't really have time to play Standard after it if you can't afford playing HS all day long.
Arena is the best method for using gold if you can maintain at least a 4 win average but at the cost of having to play tons of Arena games. Ultimately it's only really worth it if you enjoy that mode. If you do absolutely go ahead and become an Arena player for a while.
Otherwise make sure you have 2000 gold ready for the mini-sets, unlock old Adventures if you can and open up to 10 packs in all the expansions you haven't yet done so in to trigger the initial Legendary pity timer. The rest of your gold spend on new expansion packs.
I don't always use my trackers to keep up with my arena records, but i would guess I average a little over 4 wins, higher with mage, warlock and rogue.
I currently have 2k gold which I was planning on saving for the mini-set, and did purchase the rewards track as my only real investment. It sounds like just playing arena for the most recent expansion packs is the best method for now, and post mini-set launch will save 3/4 of my gold for the next expansion and 1/4 on arena runs to continue building a card/dust reserve. While I don't love arena, I also don't have a large enough standard collection to play more than 3 or 4 classes so arena gives me a little more variability.
You're going to be hating life if you're grinding out arena. Mode is so boring. Unless you love battling for board control with a bunch of garbage minions vs a bunch of garbage minions. You're also going to be hating life if you're grinding out a bunch of old PVE content for dust. Just save your gold, buy the mini set when it comes, and otherwise get back into the swing of saving for each expansion.
This actually isn't the worst time to do it that way either. In a few months a bunch of cards are going to rotate. And I know it's trite to say, but the current meta is kind of "meh". Other than paladin (which has a ton of cards about to rotate), the best decks are cheap dust wise anyways if you can scrape it together. Just get the UiS mini set and go crush it with pirate warrior - you'll probably catch a full refund whenever they get around to nerfing Mr Smite. Or go Face Hunter, and just skip Rinling's Rifle that's about to rotate...it's a good card, but hardly critical to the Face Hunter game plan (Kodobane probably worth a craft tho). My third choice would be one of the cheap agro Shaman decks - don't bother with Instructor Fireheart though, it's rotating and not that great of a card - more of a hail Mary kind of a thing. All the other decks are way too expensive and not worth playing in this meta anyways.
I think arena has a pretty sweet meta atm actually so I enjoy taking a run every now and then. If you have the Bp you'll get extra gold for just playing whatever pvp content you enjoy so go for the fun and some cards will follow anyway :)
With that being said. I think I've at least earned 15 packs of value in arena with mostly DH, Shaman and rogue. Shaman is probably the best class in arena tight now, but the last set is packed with great neutral cards for arena so any experienced arena player should be able to farm and have fun now :)
I have LoE and ONiK unlocked so I can purchase them with gold. Is buying the remaining 5 wings and dusting the cards that don't see play even in wild a better investment than playing arena in an attempt to build out my standard collection?
Greetings! This is an interesting question you have asked. I'll try breaking it down a bit.
The League of Explorers costs 2800 Gold and yields 2585 Dust. One Night in Karazhan costs 2800 Gold and yields 2475 Dust. The total cost is 5600 Gold with a reward of 5060 Dust.
That same cost being spent towards Arena would yield ~37 runs (not including extra from winning gold). The average rewards would yield ~5480 Dust. This is assuming that rewarded Gold is spent towards Packs. On average, spending the rewarded Gold on Arena nets a yield of ~5390 Dust. As you can see, it would be more slightly more efficient to buy packs, unless you are winning with 4+ wins per run. However, this could vary wildly depending on your results.
All options are very close. I would say that it would matter more if there are any specific cards in these expansions you may want. That alone may tip the scale in the expansions' favour. However, if you truly don't care about any of the cards, then Arena may be more efficient. And you are rewarded packs that can directly improve your standard collection. However, if you get less than 3 wins per run on average, you may be better off with the expansions now and save the Arena for later.
There's no strict right or wrong answer here. It more or less depends on exactly what cards you're looking for.
I hope this helps and answers most of your questions.
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I think HS mathematics estimated that 1 pack has 100 dust on average so anything that gives you less than 1:1 gold : dust is bad. Explorers have some important wild cards but otherwise play arena if you tend to have a decent win rate (anything that's 3 or more)
I think right now you are in a good spot to start/resume your Standard collection because it's the last expansion this year. But it's a lenghty process. And I wouldn't expect much from future 3 months.
First of all I'd start hoarding gold and packs - Standard and class-specific. Guess "Year of the Phoenix" ones will give the same cards either this or next season so they can be opened safely.
Next I would definitely buy future mini-set - it's 4 legendaries after all.
Then I'd start farming Rewards Track like crazy, including achievements with experience rewards. And even if you are not planning to spend real money I would still consider purchasing a Tavern Pass, it has the best value for money.
I'd have spent all of this gold right at the start of next season (and year), opened seasonal packs first and Standard next to catch up a bit on previous seasons. And then repeat allf of this again.
My main concerns with Arena approach is that you don't really have time to play Standard after it if you can't afford playing HS all day long.
Arena is the best method for using gold if you can maintain at least a 4 win average but at the cost of having to play tons of Arena games. Ultimately it's only really worth it if you enjoy that mode. If you do absolutely go ahead and become an Arena player for a while.
Otherwise make sure you have 2000 gold ready for the mini-sets, unlock old Adventures if you can and open up to 10 packs in all the expansions you haven't yet done so in to trigger the initial Legendary pity timer. The rest of your gold spend on new expansion packs.
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I don't always use my trackers to keep up with my arena records, but i would guess I average a little over 4 wins, higher with mage, warlock and rogue.
I currently have 2k gold which I was planning on saving for the mini-set, and did purchase the rewards track as my only real investment. It sounds like just playing arena for the most recent expansion packs is the best method for now, and post mini-set launch will save 3/4 of my gold for the next expansion and 1/4 on arena runs to continue building a card/dust reserve. While I don't love arena, I also don't have a large enough standard collection to play more than 3 or 4 classes so arena gives me a little more variability.
You're going to be hating life if you're grinding out arena. Mode is so boring. Unless you love battling for board control with a bunch of garbage minions vs a bunch of garbage minions. You're also going to be hating life if you're grinding out a bunch of old PVE content for dust. Just save your gold, buy the mini set when it comes, and otherwise get back into the swing of saving for each expansion.
This actually isn't the worst time to do it that way either. In a few months a bunch of cards are going to rotate. And I know it's trite to say, but the current meta is kind of "meh". Other than paladin (which has a ton of cards about to rotate), the best decks are cheap dust wise anyways if you can scrape it together. Just get the UiS mini set and go crush it with pirate warrior - you'll probably catch a full refund whenever they get around to nerfing Mr Smite. Or go Face Hunter, and just skip Rinling's Rifle that's about to rotate...it's a good card, but hardly critical to the Face Hunter game plan (Kodobane probably worth a craft tho). My third choice would be one of the cheap agro Shaman decks - don't bother with Instructor Fireheart though, it's rotating and not that great of a card - more of a hail Mary kind of a thing. All the other decks are way too expensive and not worth playing in this meta anyways.
I think arena has a pretty sweet meta atm actually so I enjoy taking a run every now and then. If you have the Bp you'll get extra gold for just playing whatever pvp content you enjoy so go for the fun and some cards will follow anyway :)
With that being said. I think I've at least earned 15 packs of value in arena with mostly DH, Shaman and rogue. Shaman is probably the best class in arena tight now, but the last set is packed with great neutral cards for arena so any experienced arena player should be able to farm and have fun now :)
Heroic Duels is another way to go, depending on your preference and ability to consistently achieve >=3 wins.
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