Ive been losing interest for months now… I had said in this forum several times that the game is going downhill, some times due to frustration after losing a game, sometimes because I found the meta boring. But I kept on playing… less so every day but I did.
However in the last 6 months or so I have genuinely lost interest and I play significantly less. Every meta is a bit more tedious than the previous one, rng is well controlled centrally, activision charge so much for something that will become obsolete so soon…
is it worth it? Probably not for me. Will I keep playing? again probably a few games a day but not in the long term
It’s going downhill kind of just like the company is. It’s basically going through the world of Warcraft effect. Years go by, the game gets worse, players voice why it gets worse and what changes they’d like, and that gets ignored.
We don’t have announcements anymore. Just announcements of announcements.
It’s actually slightly maliciously satisfying for me watching some of their games crash, because people are FINALLY starting to vote with their wallets. Why would the company change anything about their game if everyone just keeps playing anyways?
There should be a third option to vote here that's in the middle.
I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. It's different. The game keeps changing. I'm trying to just adapt to what it is and make the best of it.
I do prefer control decks, to be fair. And they can still make a comeback. Just rotate the quests out and put Reno (and some others) back into the core set. Boom, control decks viable again. At least in standard.
But they won't do that. Devs like 5 minute games. :\
I can't even recognize this shit from when I started playing six years ago. The questlines have sent this thing right to the shitter. Blizzard as a company is also terrible.
Problem is major. Problem is people who likes playing face hunter. I mean its impossible to understand these people. You are playing a STRATEGY game and you just copy the brain dead deck from somewhere , then try to win game within 4-5 rounds.
And when those kind of players increase company is going to serve them.
You can not complain the game and play agro decks. The cards cost more than 7 is garbage right now.
Questlines supposed to be harder to complete from old quests. But they are not. On turn 6-7 people playing the rewards and within 2 round game is done.
Trash meta. Playing since grand tournament. Im absolutely sure this is the worse meta.
the problem is that quests as you said are too easy to complete, push numbers by 1 OR make the reward cost 7-8 (its a strong 7/7) and the game will slow down by 3 turns at least.
Mercenaries, duels, tavern brawl, arena are also very dead. No one plays them.
I dont know why ppl always keep saying this. Do you have any numbers? I play duels every day, its the content that keeps in HS for the moment. When i queue for a match, it always instantly find an opponent. That means, there are people around playing that mode. The only time i have to wait maybe 20-30 sec is when im at 10 to 12 wins.
I think its cool that the game offers possibilities for everyone, since constiructed forever will one day run out of steam. And honestly with the latetst addition of quests, they didnt make it more exciting lol. The quests are a cool concept to add some nes flavour to the game. Unfortunatley some are broken beyond belief and they dont adress it.
Playing less and less… standard isn’t anything other than aggro face attacks, ridiculous card draw combos and summoning combo random bullshit (I’ve been in the fortunate and unfortunate side of this). Just look at the success of Mage or Quest DH or Pirate Warriors.
Luck and randomness will kill and demoralize a well thought strategy. It’s not a strategy game, in general, anymore and it’s not geared towards intellectuals like it used to be. I honestly hate to say that because of the elitist connotation. How many fucking skins can they try to sell all at once?!?
This isn’t to say that one can’t have fun with an off-meta deck that requires more than a few brain cells… but you will be relegated to casual and, unfortunately, the net deckers are there too, just maybe slightly less than standard. I don’t know if they’re scared to take that BS to the ladder or what??
The “death to control” strategy is simply making it a “sit on the shitter” game. Reaching D5-Legend is rando luck with sprinkling of good planning. I play in this space every month and I honestly can’t say that I’m proud or better than anyone else playing these no-brained net decks. Let’s be honest, successful ladder climbing is easy compared to early years.
My lands… it feels good to get that off my chest.
I do get some enjoyment out of Battlegrounds and Duels. But they’re just not as fun as head-to-head play for me personally.
They did a good job with the previous meta years: Kraken, Mammoth, Raven, Dragon, and Phoenix..
This year of the Gryphon is shaping to be the worst one out of all these years in terms of overall impression, class archetypes, and meta performance interests. The upcoming expansion meta will make the judgment call.
The game is all about big swings, even aggro. Aggro Druid? Develop a quick board and overwhelm. Quest Mage? Finish quest and kill from 30 to 0 in one turn. Handlock Warlock? Drop Flesh Giants, Barrens Scavengers etc. in one round. Carrot Rogue? Collect your pieces and kill from hand. Quest DH? Collect your pieces and kill from hand. And so on.
This style of play invalidates the other persons actions that take place prior, makes them meaningless and that is not a good feeling. There is one game you play until the big swing and after the swing you are playing a different game. This creates frustration and bad feelings because well-executed strategy should have a pay-off at the end. Instead, you race to meet your own objective while ignoring as much as possible what your opponent is doing, only doing the minimum to survive until you get your big swing first.
I am finding some enjoyment with my off-meta decks and it's not that I am opposed to playing an optimised deck, I am not, it's just that the optimised decks are not fun because they represent that style of play. Quest Warrior might be the one example of incremental play, with some potential for a biggish swing past Juggernaut drop, if you are lucky, but never resulting in a 30 to 0 burst like others. It's funny that Mr. Smite, which is a blast from the past, fits best in this older-style deck.
Barrens meta was really good, and coming off of that has made Stormwind look all the worse in contrast. It's hard to believe these sets were created and approved by the same team. Whoever greenlighted Questlines needs to be quietly shuffled into a customer service position.
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"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Hey there!
ive been playing Heartstone since release, and i can say im afraid of what Heartstone will be in the next Expansions.
Cards are cool, nice combos and so on but everything is decided around turn 5 or 6.
In my opinion we really need more Control decks, and less otk / full face decks.
I think we have way too many clears in this game.
There will always be some decks which are above average but now you have to decide:
You can forgive, but never forget.
Ive been losing interest for months now… I had said in this forum several times that the game is going downhill, some times due to frustration after losing a game, sometimes because I found the meta boring. But I kept on playing… less so every day but I did.
However in the last 6 months or so I have genuinely lost interest and I play significantly less. Every meta is a bit more tedious than the previous one, rng is well controlled centrally, activision charge so much for something that will become obsolete so soon…
is it worth it? Probably not for me. Will I keep playing? again probably a few games a day but not in the long term
Constructed is becoming a dead format. Dont know why people torment themselves with it. Its also disgustingly rigged.
BG, while also rigged, is a more fun experience. I play BG exclusively. Most people play BG.
Mercenaries, duels, tavern brawl, arena are also very dead. No one plays them.
It’s going downhill kind of just like the company is. It’s basically going through the world of Warcraft effect. Years go by, the game gets worse, players voice why it gets worse and what changes they’d like, and that gets ignored.
We don’t have announcements anymore. Just announcements of announcements.
It’s actually slightly maliciously satisfying for me watching some of their games crash, because people are FINALLY starting to vote with their wallets. Why would the company change anything about their game if everyone just keeps playing anyways?
There should be a third option to vote here that's in the middle.
I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. It's different. The game keeps changing. I'm trying to just adapt to what it is and make the best of it.
I do prefer control decks, to be fair. And they can still make a comeback. Just rotate the quests out and put Reno (and some others) back into the core set. Boom, control decks viable again. At least in standard.
But they won't do that. Devs like 5 minute games. :\
I've been playing mostly arena for so long that I can't remember last time I built my own deck for constructed.
As has been said already, this game and Blizzard are going downhill. Sad but true. :(
It will be a great day when this game draws it's final breath.
Unfortunately, it seems that the scam marketing strategy is working.
https://gamerant.com/activision-blizzard-microtransaction-earnings-1-billion/
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211102006277/en/Activision-Blizzard-Announces-Third-Quarter-2021-Financial-Results
WTF? That was totally unexpected, I'm speechless...
Honestly, I don't want this game to die, so well, that's better than nothing. :P
I can't even recognize this shit from when I started playing six years ago. The questlines have sent this thing right to the shitter. Blizzard as a company is also terrible.
I'm eating my own words right now! :P
Problem is major. Problem is people who likes playing face hunter. I mean its impossible to understand these people. You are playing a STRATEGY game and you just copy the brain dead deck from somewhere , then try to win game within 4-5 rounds.
And when those kind of players increase company is going to serve them.
You can not complain the game and play agro decks. The cards cost more than 7 is garbage right now.
Questlines supposed to be harder to complete from old quests. But they are not. On turn 6-7 people playing the rewards and within 2 round game is done.
Trash meta. Playing since grand tournament. Im absolutely sure this is the worse meta.
the problem is that quests as you said are too easy to complete, push numbers by 1 OR make the reward cost 7-8 (its a strong 7/7) and the game will slow down by 3 turns at least.
I dont know why ppl always keep saying this. Do you have any numbers? I play duels every day, its the content that keeps in HS for the moment. When i queue for a match, it always instantly find an opponent. That means, there are people around playing that mode. The only time i have to wait maybe 20-30 sec is when im at 10 to 12 wins.
I think its cool that the game offers possibilities for everyone, since constiructed forever will one day run out of steam. And honestly with the latetst addition of quests, they didnt make it more exciting lol. The quests are a cool concept to add some nes flavour to the game. Unfortunatley some are broken beyond belief and they dont adress it.
Playing less and less… standard isn’t anything other than aggro face attacks, ridiculous card draw combos and summoning combo random bullshit (I’ve been in the fortunate and unfortunate side of this). Just look at the success of Mage or Quest DH or Pirate Warriors.
Luck and randomness will kill and demoralize a well thought strategy.
It’s not a strategy game, in general, anymore and it’s not geared towards intellectuals like it used to be. I honestly hate to say that because of the elitist connotation. How many fucking skins can they try to sell all at once?!?
This isn’t to say that one can’t have fun with an off-meta deck that requires more than a few brain cells… but you will be relegated to casual and, unfortunately, the net deckers are there too, just maybe slightly less than standard. I don’t know if they’re scared to take that BS to the ladder or what??
The “death to control” strategy is simply making it a “sit on the shitter” game. Reaching D5-Legend is rando luck with sprinkling of good planning. I play in this space every month and I honestly can’t say that I’m proud or better than anyone else playing these no-brained net decks. Let’s be honest, successful ladder climbing is easy compared to early years.
My lands… it feels good to get that off my chest.
I do get some enjoyment out of Battlegrounds and Duels. But they’re just not as fun as head-to-head play for me personally.
They did a good job with the previous meta years: Kraken, Mammoth, Raven, Dragon, and Phoenix..
This year of the Gryphon is shaping to be the worst one out of all these years in terms of overall impression, class archetypes, and meta performance interests. The upcoming expansion meta will make the judgment call.
The game is all about big swings, even aggro. Aggro Druid? Develop a quick board and overwhelm. Quest Mage? Finish quest and kill from 30 to 0 in one turn. Handlock Warlock? Drop Flesh Giants, Barrens Scavengers etc. in one round. Carrot Rogue? Collect your pieces and kill from hand. Quest DH? Collect your pieces and kill from hand. And so on.
This style of play invalidates the other persons actions that take place prior, makes them meaningless and that is not a good feeling. There is one game you play until the big swing and after the swing you are playing a different game. This creates frustration and bad feelings because well-executed strategy should have a pay-off at the end. Instead, you race to meet your own objective while ignoring as much as possible what your opponent is doing, only doing the minimum to survive until you get your big swing first.
I am finding some enjoyment with my off-meta decks and it's not that I am opposed to playing an optimised deck, I am not, it's just that the optimised decks are not fun because they represent that style of play. Quest Warrior might be the one example of incremental play, with some potential for a biggish swing past Juggernaut drop, if you are lucky, but never resulting in a 30 to 0 burst like others. It's funny that Mr. Smite, which is a blast from the past, fits best in this older-style deck.
Barrens meta was really good, and coming off of that has made Stormwind look all the worse in contrast. It's hard to believe these sets were created and approved by the same team. Whoever greenlighted Questlines needs to be quietly shuffled into a customer service position.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
This game has turned into a Cube Crawl. (Yes looking at you BLIZZ).
It’s definitely not the same. For many people who have invested hours and money I can understand why so many people feel cheated.
Team 5 needs a spanking and a time out.
Is it weird that the number of yes votes (so far) matches the percentage of how often I face warrior?