So i see a lot of hate over the Tavern Pass. But what i don't understand is that people just go with their gut feeling or repeat what others say without even using their own brain (which according to a lot of comments on this site not that many people have).
So instead of just saying "OMG Blizz betrayed us" let numbers talk.
So I just hit level 100 on the reward track. That's 228,700 EXP gained since the reward track was introduced in the end of Novemver '20 almost 2 months ago. The Tavern Pass gives me +20% EXP boost so roughly 45,000 EXP. Without that EXP I would be level 69 now (nice btw). The 31 extra levels granted me 1550 Gold, so let's say 15 packs. 15 packs cost 20€ in EU. You know what also costs 20€? That's right, the Tavern Pass So I payed the same amount as 15 packs would cost me plus i got the cosmetic stuff. So if we say i play approximately the same until April when the Pass most likely expires all in all I'll get around 25 packs for the cost of 15 plus cosmetics.
So what does all that mean?
Well if you're hardcore F2P I guess nothing. But if you are the kind of guy, that every now and then spends some money on the game, the Tavern Pass really could be worth it depending on how much you play.
And what I really don't understand is that a lot of streamers that spend hundreds of moneys on the game say "don't buy the Pass it's a waste of money" when they already could've made double the value in packs if they bought the Pass.
Well, whoever is saying that the tavern pass is a waste of money is incorrect - there is plenty of value in it. After they changed it from the original release, I don't really see a lot of people complaining about it anymore...
I bought the pass this expansion and I don't regret it at all. With all the skins and extra gold you get out of it, I'd say it's the best value bundle. Not like the ones they drop into the shop at like $25 for one skin and maybe a card back.
I am... level 178 today with the pass, and that's not what I would consider really hardcore time invested. Like, an hour on my lunch break at work, throw in some time in evenings before bed, and others here and there.
The only people it doesn't benefit are the super casual players who really don't play a lot.
I think it also depends on intentions - I've bought it once (and probably will in the future - I find the value is decent if I don't want to "buy" an expansion) but I've reached lv 100 easily each go round without the pass and with that in mind my mafs says you need to roughly reach lv 200 with the pass to "breakeven" on the gold. Ignoring when you actually get the boosts, you can roughly say a 20% boost means 200 with the pass is 160 without so those extra 40 levels are 2000 gold... again, that's not perfect, but lv 200 is roughly the target if you can hit 100 without the pass.
Some f2p people are so adamant about not spending money, they'd rather devote 8+ hours a day in order to get to lvl 400 than spend a dime on what takes most of their time. Some of them even went on this page to write that the tavern pass "just gives you the rewards faster" assuming that anybody would waste their life on a computer game. I agree that the tavern pass is the perfect purchase for the light spender. I enjoy levelling up so the tavern pass makes me enjoy the game more. It's nice to win stuff for free, but there are some people who take it too far. It seems that those are the people who hate on the pass too.
OK, so I don't know where all those numbers came from. If my math is correct (and assuming tavern pass=20€=15 packs=1500 gold) you will break even at level 180 with pass (~272 000 exp, divided by 1.2 (pass bonus) it would be ~226 000 which gives us 46 000 difference, which equals 30 levels [1500 exp per level above 130] and that's 1500 gold).
To sum up, if without pass you reach at least lvl 150 and less than 370 it's worth more to buy the pass than packs. Otherwise forget it (unless of course you really want the skins).
Edit: Orange label should read Gold You Would Have Lost
The math is a bit trickier than ya'll are doing, since up until a certain point you only get a 10 or 15% XP boost. So the easiest way (imo) to calculate this is to just use excel.
We can say if you were level 50 without the pass then you have 156,525 XP, but if you had the tavern pass you would have had 183,283 XP. Then we see that much XP is level 69, where you would have been rewarded 950 gold more.
Or, if you were level 50 with the pass, then you still have 156,525 XP, but if you did not have the pass you would have 133,752 XP, which correlates to level 45 and 1500 less gold.
Then you can put it all in a graph for us visual thinkers. You'll see that at level 350 the net gain if you had the pass (but currently don't) is 0, because you don't earn gold beyond that level.
Conversely, if you have the pass and are at level 350 then you have gained the most gold you can from the pass (3250). But as you start gaining more XP with the pass you get nothing, but without the pass would start closing that gap.
tl;dr: If you don't have the pass and reach level 113 by the end, you should have bought the pass (1500 gold is net even, plus some other goodies). If you do have the pass and reached level 135, then the pass was definitely worth it.
So i see a lot of hate over the Tavern Pass. But what i don't understand is that people just go with their gut feeling or repeat what others say without even using their own brain (which according to a lot of comments on this site not that many people have).
So instead of just saying "OMG Blizz betrayed us" let numbers talk.
So I just hit level 100 on the reward track. That's 228,700 EXP gained since the reward track was introduced in the end of Novemver '20 almost 2 months ago. The Tavern Pass gives me +20% EXP boost so roughly 45,000 EXP. Without that EXP I would be level 69 now (nice btw). The 31 extra levels granted me 1550 Gold, so let's say 15 packs. 15 packs cost 20€ in EU. You know what also costs 20€? That's right, the Tavern Pass
So I payed the same amount as 15 packs would cost me plus i got the cosmetic stuff. So if we say i play approximately the same until April when the Pass most likely expires all in all I'll get around 25 packs for the cost of 15 plus cosmetics.
So what does all that mean?
Well if you're hardcore F2P I guess nothing.
But if you are the kind of guy, that every now and then spends some money on the game, the Tavern Pass really could be worth it depending on how much you play.
And what I really don't understand is that a lot of streamers that spend hundreds of moneys on the game say "don't buy the Pass it's a waste of money" when they already could've made double the value in packs if they bought the Pass.
Well, whoever is saying that the tavern pass is a waste of money is incorrect - there is plenty of value in it. After they changed it from the original release, I don't really see a lot of people complaining about it anymore...
I bought the pass this expansion and I don't regret it at all. With all the skins and extra gold you get out of it, I'd say it's the best value bundle. Not like the ones they drop into the shop at like $25 for one skin and maybe a card back.
I am... level 178 today with the pass, and that's not what I would consider really hardcore time invested. Like, an hour on my lunch break at work, throw in some time in evenings before bed, and others here and there.
The only people it doesn't benefit are the super casual players who really don't play a lot.
I think it also depends on intentions - I've bought it once (and probably will in the future - I find the value is decent if I don't want to "buy" an expansion) but I've reached lv 100 easily each go round without the pass and with that in mind my mafs says you need to roughly reach lv 200 with the pass to "breakeven" on the gold. Ignoring when you actually get the boosts, you can roughly say a 20% boost means 200 with the pass is 160 without so those extra 40 levels are 2000 gold... again, that's not perfect, but lv 200 is roughly the target if you can hit 100 without the pass.
Some f2p people are so adamant about not spending money, they'd rather devote 8+ hours a day in order to get to lvl 400 than spend a dime on what takes most of their time. Some of them even went on this page to write that the tavern pass "just gives you the rewards faster" assuming that anybody would waste their life on a computer game. I agree that the tavern pass is the perfect purchase for the light spender. I enjoy levelling up so the tavern pass makes me enjoy the game more. It's nice to win stuff for free, but there are some people who take it too far. It seems that those are the people who hate on the pass too.
OK, so I don't know where all those numbers came from. If my math is correct (and assuming tavern pass=20€=15 packs=1500 gold) you will break even at level 180 with pass (~272 000 exp, divided by 1.2 (pass bonus) it would be ~226 000 which gives us 46 000 difference, which equals 30 levels [1500 exp per level above 130] and that's 1500 gold).
To sum up, if without pass you reach at least lvl 150 and less than 370 it's worth more to buy the pass than packs. Otherwise forget it (unless of course you really want the skins).
You also get one extra legendary from it, which is by itself equals at least 10 packs - assuming it is useful.
Edit: Orange label should read Gold You Would Have Lost
The math is a bit trickier than ya'll are doing, since up until a certain point you only get a 10 or 15% XP boost. So the easiest way (imo) to calculate this is to just use excel.
We can say if you were level 50 without the pass then you have 156,525 XP, but if you had the tavern pass you would have had 183,283 XP. Then we see that much XP is level 69, where you would have been rewarded 950 gold more.
Or, if you were level 50 with the pass, then you still have 156,525 XP, but if you did not have the pass you would have 133,752 XP, which correlates to level 45 and 1500 less gold.
Then you can put it all in a graph for us visual thinkers. You'll see that at level 350 the net gain if you had the pass (but currently don't) is 0, because you don't earn gold beyond that level.
Conversely, if you have the pass and are at level 350 then you have gained the most gold you can from the pass (3250). But as you start gaining more XP with the pass you get nothing, but without the pass would start closing that gap.
tl;dr: If you don't have the pass and reach level 113 by the end, you should have bought the pass (1500 gold is net even, plus some other goodies). If you do have the pass and reached level 135, then the pass was definitely worth it.