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The first error you are making is assuming you're the only one doing this sort of thing for a living ;)
From your previous reply about this sort of thing (a simple deck hash comparison) needing 'massive computer power', i can already tell you that you either do not or are not very good at it though.
The hs deck tracker battlegrounds simulation actually does a LOT more than a simple boardstate check for calculating it's outcome positions, it actually simulates every possible outcome, and averages those out to give you a result.
Nuff said
When you're talking about computing power - which variant of rigging are we talking here? A lot of the high computer power claims are related to in-game rigging, which is why Zeph comes up despite his logic being utterly abysmal.
Secondly, what bonus does matchmaking based on decks (sometimes - sometimes it matchmakes easier decks or harder decks for you depending on <factor that claimant feels like>, but presumably not always) do that simple tweaks to MMR - stuff like increase your k- value when on a streak, or even just decaying MMR over time - doesn't produce with significantly less effort and less bad PR if it comes out? And at what point does this even count as rigging rather than a robust matchmaking system?
Bro, I didn't make the original post you replied to. Check yourself on that.
Second of all you sound like a high school student, not an actual engineer doing real world work. If you did, then you would understand why your simple solution doesn't work in anything but a vacuum where things cannot deviate.
I never said anything about the complexity of the Battlegrounds simulator. Simply that it requires a lot less because there are less variables involved. You are just being a jerk and trying to twist what I said.
Here's an easy way to resolve this though. Put your money where your mouth is. Write the code. I'm waiting.
Yep, so thread Summary?
Hearthstone is indeed rigged AF. Primarily for profit and pack sales, to a lesser degree to maintain their coveted 50% win rate BS...which is just as retarded.
Leave players win rates alone you asshats.
Zero evidence Hearthstone rigged. No motive or reason to rig it. Matchmaking based on neutral MMR more than sufficient to achieve 50% win rate overall. Stated 50% win rate goal has to do with class and card balance, not matchmaking.
There, fixed it for you.
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=9789406.PN.&OS=PN/9789406&RS=PN/9789406
But if you didn't have the research skills to find it yourself I laugh heartily at the idea of you comprehending it. (The US Patent number was clear in the image in the Kotaku article linked to earlier.)
Never mind....
Preeeetty sure he was trying to be funny, since the patent has been linked about three or four times already in this thread alone, and approximately 6.28 billion times else where on this site.
No, I'm the first to link the actual patent document. The others were linking to "journalism" covering the patent.
Matchmaking is rigged.
Well, that settles it. You're totally turning me around on this one. I mean, who needs logic, reason, rationale or coherent thought? All you need is mindless assertions.
Since the start of the expansion I played nothing but Questline Paladin. 5-10 games per day. I saw nothing but Questline Hunter with some other classes sprinkled in.
I switch to another Paladin deck that is control based. I play the same amount of games for a week straight and not one Questline Hunter shows up. Not a single one. Instead, I now see a steady stream of this big Warlock deck.
This has been the case for years. (The most common one is see nothing but Secret Mage, tech in some Eater of Secrets and never see Secret Mage again) It's nothing new. There are many users here who will tell you the same thing. If you don't think the matchmaking is rigged, you're just naive and lack any critical thinking.
Are you running a deck tracker? If so, care to post match-up stats?
How about I've been playing Hearthstone consistently since LoE? This is isn't hard. Anyone with half a brain can see exactly what I'm talking about.
Sure, those with half a brain will nod in agreement while those without half their brain missing will know about biases.
I mean you are quoting anecdotal occurrences when playing a niche deck and facing nothing but another niche deck "with some other classes sprinkled in" and then not caring to provide proof but a 'no true Scotsman'. Guess what all the other people that claim it's rigged, are also not providing? It's only ever some talk about the patent, speculation about profit motivations and anecdotal evidence.
When queuing into mostly Quest Hunter is your suspicion of rigging, why not just run a deck tracker in the background and post a weeks worth of data? That should be easy and would be irrefutable proof for your claim.
Also how about I got my beta invite 8 years ago today and I've been playing consistently since then without ever seeing proof of it being rigged? But I guess "just naive and lack any critical thinking", right?
How about saying that the matchups and gameplay are highly highly highly controlled to ensure some semblance of 50/50 WR? I see it as Blizz’s way of controlling the game/WR… others see it as “rigged” or “RNG”. I can understand both sentiments.
Regardless, “controlling” aspects of the game are two fold… keeping new players from getting destroyed and quitting and the other is to make money, money, money. These aren’t mutually exclusive.
This is a company that tries to strike a balance between keeping players happy and keeping the shareholder happy. With preference typically leaning towards the latter.
It's rigging if the opponent is supposed to be completely random yes. I have yet to see a sport or game where there wasn't at least some kind of regulation on who vs who. Weather it's age, sex, experience, game rating etc. the fun and fairness of any game needs regulation on its match-ups. I'm not quiet sure if YOU think that MM is really rigging and in that case if it's even a bad thing.
To all of those that think mmr is an offense to the integrity of the game I have some crazy news about the NBA. THEY ARE ALL PICKED FOR THE TEAM!!!!! None of them are randomly chosen guys and they'll be matched against another team based on their previous performance... LUCKILY!
Trying to achieve a 50% win rate is the goal of MMR. You perform better, you are matched with better players and vice versa. It naturally gravitates there and if there are grievous outliers, Blizz will swing the nerf hammer and reign those decks back in line.
It's a self selecting mechanism that ensures somewhat equal games.
Naturally does Blizzard want to make money, but matchmaking doesn't really lend itself as a way to encourage spending. Blizzard isn't changing cards left and right for a different meta every other week, requiring new cards and forcing you to buy packs.
Jesus Christ...
Match up against the same deck over and over again using your same deck over and over again.
Change your deck.
You then no longer match up against that same deck over and over again.
It's been like this for a long time. I don't care if people want to dismiss it as anecdotal evidence. But then they do that and say in the same breath say that MMR is set up to achieve a 50% win rate. That in itself is manipulation AKA rigging.
Why is it whenever this is brought up a bunch of wall defenders feel the need to tell you how wrong you are? I'm not going to waste my time with deck trackers. I have this thing called a memory. How about YOU use a deck tracker. Go ahead, play the same deck say 50 times. Tell me what what happens. Then switch your deck. Play another 50. Tell me what happens. And I won't ask for proof because I would believe you.
If your memory is so good, what is so scary about having a deck tracker in the background? You can disable the overlay for good sportsmanship. I'm personally pretty surprised by how average my matchups are. If 15% are mages on HS replay I meet like 12-18% mages in 50 games witch isn't a very big sample btw. Meta changes with time. Did you face a lot of quest hunters after the last nerf and then they were gone? Well that's also what the statistics said. Try rolling a die 50 times. I'd be surprised if you got a near evenly distributed number of each roll within that sample size.
-btw When somebody makes an inaccurate statement about statistics and starts ridiculing others for saying "calm down, we don't know if it's true", I like to point out the nature of numbers and probability. If i said that the earth is flat because I haven't walked around it and you are a capitalist fanboy for not joining my rant, you'd have a few comments too.