I've tried on occasion to complete the boar quest and get the big weapon, but I've never been very close. I've only seen it happen once against me (and I still won that game).
Funny because this is the expansion of easy quests with huge power payoffs, yet the boar quest is really to finish.
It doesn't that's why I pay money to get this privilege to experiment a little bit earlier than everyone else.
And no it really wouldn't help with the community feeling that build diversity and fun are at an all time low if F2P got to experiment a tiny bit more early with some epic card that may or may not be elwynn boar, I don't see the logic in that it's just random words put together to form a sentence.
Also, F2P is not denied all experimentation, just most epic and legendary cards. You should realistically have all the commons and rares on day one and multiple epics and at least 2 legendaries. And they made the reward track and they keep improving it specifically for those players to catch up, they sometimes even give free legos on top of all of that. But it is never enough for these people. So i'm sorry I just don't buy that "oh but it would help fix so many problems" BS, people wouldn't magically stop complaining about very deep core issues with the game because of some reward track update, you just want more free stuff more quickly and it's totally okay for you to want that but don't make it look like you wanna do good for the game. You could already be at level 75 on the reward track if you spent more time playing y'know. I'm close and I don't play a lot.
That is not for you to decide.
Of course not, it's for the meta to decide that was my point, it's the meta that influences what we play and what we enjoy at any given time, and in a meta where the boar is just another unfortunate meme card, you're not gonna have fun with it and you're not even gonna play it because your 15% win rate will drive you crazy in less than a day and you will switch to a more usable deck. I am statistically very likely to be correct, but good for you if you're the rare type that actually cares about having fun more than winning, even after a losing streak. You're a better human than most of us that unconsciously link winning and having fun.
My point is basically, for an especially evil company like Blizzard, I think they are doing a great job with F2P in Hearthstone alreay, and maybe you should start by being thankful for that before going on about your tiny boar issue. Of course, they could always do better, they could even give us every card for free if they wanted, they really could. But be realistic for a second, just look at the awful WoW business model for comparison. Probably the worst i have even seen in my entire life. You have to pay a monthly subscription + pay new expansions at full price + you still get pay-to-win style online shop. Or even vanilla Hearthstone in 2014, without duplicate protection or reward track or free stuff. Can you imagine how awful it was to open packs ? That orange glow, it should make you happy right ? Well no, it's just your fifth Gruul. You are very lucky to be F2P today, seriously.
You literally get so much free stuff nowadays as F2P, thanks to all the whales that finance this "free" game, but you still gotta ask for more. And they'll give you more, cause they don't want you to ruin their image for no reason, so, good for you I guess.
Now, I understand what you're asking is very minor, I hope you understand i'm not upset about the specifics of your issue, I just think F2P people are often way more negative than they should, your situation has upsides too you know. You still get to have fun with a ton of different cards and game modes and free rewards and it doesn't cost you 300 bucks a year like stupid me.
Holy jesus, you did not understand a single thing I said, even though we speak the same language (not my mother language but still). Perception can be so fascinating (i'm a psychologist so this intrigues me lol).
Im NOT asking for more free stuff, AT ALL. Just that the build-arounds become available on the track earlier, so people can experiment more during launch week.
"it's for the meta to decide that was my point, it's the meta that influences what we play and what we enjoy at any given time" - This statement tells me you dont care much about the deckbuilding aspect of the game, and thats fine. But a LOT of people do. The joy of every Johnny out there is to find a viable off-meta deck or an unique interaction that sometimes work and wins them the game. High winrates are NOT the main goal for these players. Hell, I look at VS reports/HS Replay to find out what i'm gonna face the most on ladder, not to copy anything!
This thread was interesting: everyone who enjoys deckbuilding agreed with me, while everyone who dont care about it and just want to win hated my suggestion. Johnnies and Spikes dont get along no matter what game it is huh.
Holy jesus, you did not understand a single thing I said, even though we speak the same language (not my mother language but still). Perception can be so fascinating (i'm a psychologist so this intrigues me lol).
Im NOT asking for more free stuff, AT ALL. Just that the build-arounds become available on the track earlier, so people can experiment more during launch week.
I did understand you wasted your time typing this, however you replied to barely 10% of my post and ignored the rest, I don't think it's a langage issue. And I said more free stuff more quickly, which IS what you'ree asking.
This statement tells me you dont care much about the deckbuilding aspect of the game, and thats fine.
It's so funny that you're a psychologist and needed to tell me that with pride, because you couldn't be more wrong about this analysis, I'm a hardcore deck builder I spend more time in the builder than in the actual game. That's literally the one reason why I pre order expansions. And I can tell you I enjoy my homebrew decks much more in metas where they can thrive, and I hate playing them in metas where they get crushed. That's called being human and it is baffling that a psychologist tries so hard to deny this simple fact just to make a point about his stupid boar. High winrate doesn't have to be a goal to be something that you unconsciously seek and enjoy. I think this discussion is pointless and thanks a lot for reinforcing what I already thought about psychologists. I'm a truck farmer by the way, since that matters, and english isn't my main langage either.
everyone who enjoys deckbuilding agreed with me
Nope, only the entitled F2P ones. "everyone who thinks like me agreed with me" fascinating.
I did understand you wasted your time typing this, however you replied to barely 10% of my post and ignored the rest, I don't think it's a langage issue. And I said more free stuff more quickly, which IS what you'ree asking.
This statement tells me you dont care much about the deckbuilding aspect of the game, and thats fine.
It's so funny that you're a psychologist and needed to tell me that with pride, because you couldn't be more wrong about this analysis, I'm a hardcore deck builder I spend more time in the builder than in the actual game. That's literally the one reason why I pre order expansions. And I can tell you I enjoy my homebrew decks much more in metas where they can thrive, and I hate playing them in metas where they get crushed. That's called being human and it is baffling that a psychologist tries so hard to deny this simple fact just to make a point about his stupid boar. High winrate doesn't have to be a goal to be something that you unconsciously seek and enjoy. I think this discussion is pointless and thanks a lot for reinforcing what I already thought about psychologists. I'm a truck farmer by the way, since that matters, and english isn't my main langage either.
everyone who enjoys deckbuilding agreed with me
Nope, only the entitled F2P ones. "everyone who thinks like me agreed with me" fascinating.
"That's literally the one reason why I pre order expansions." - you're pretty much the living example of what I said earlier then, that rn experimentation is a whale's privilege. The point of my suggestion is exactly to make that less of a problem for f2p, not fix it entirely (since its impossible).
Again, no.. I dont want more free stuff more quickly, you sound like I want all freebies to be unlockable in the first week, thats not it. Not gonna bother explaining a third time, cuz as you said, this is becoming pointless. Finally something we can agree I guess.
Too bad you dont like psychologists, theres a lot you could get from therapy.
I opened two of them on day 1. You aren't missing anything.
Also opened 2 on day one. Built an Elwynn Hunter deck, went 0-10, managed to equip the Sword of Thousand Truths once in these 10 games (was still dead on board though), gave up on the achievement and moved on...
The point of my suggestion is exactly to make that less of a problem for f2p, not fix it entirely (since its impossible).
There is absolutely no reason for Blizzard to make this game more pleasant for f2p in any way. The free-to-play lure got you to try the game, and that is all they wanted. If you don't like it enough to pay, they are perfectly happy to make your time in the game as difficult as possible until you decide to either pay or leave.
In other words, it's not a problem at all. If it makes free players feel envious of paying players, it's working exactly as intended.
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I opened a single Boar. It was the first deck I played of the expac. I killed the opponent with the sword in the very first game. Second and third game I got the sword equipped but lost.
The only time I've seen the super sword was on day 1 of the expansion too. I think it got harder to achieve once the meta settled. Most decks finish the game before turn 10. This boar quest just takes longer than that. Maybe if I get lucky and queue into someone trying out quest priest or something. Otherwise, it's too slow at D5 where I'm playing.
That's fair. Even with all the card draw that Demon Hunter has, it takes at least 9 to 11 turns to draw through your deck and get the Boars out. I stopped playing it once I started running into spell mages.
The point of my suggestion is exactly to make that less of a problem for f2p, not fix it entirely (since its impossible).
There is absolutely no reason for Blizzard to make this game more pleasant for f2p in any way. The free-to-play lure got you to try the game, and that is all they wanted. If you don't like it enough to pay, they are perfectly happy to make your time in the game as difficult as possible until you decide to either pay or leave.
In other words, it's not a problem at all. If it makes free players feel envious of paying players, it's working exactly as intended.
Lol, everything you said is 100% accurate. I find it amazing, the sense of entitlement SOME of the F2P base feels.
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I've tried on occasion to complete the boar quest and get the big weapon, but I've never been very close. I've only seen it happen once against me (and I still won that game).
Funny because this is the expansion of easy quests with huge power payoffs, yet the boar quest is really to finish.
Holy jesus, you did not understand a single thing I said, even though we speak the same language (not my mother language but still). Perception can be so fascinating (i'm a psychologist so this intrigues me lol).
Im NOT asking for more free stuff, AT ALL. Just that the build-arounds become available on the track earlier, so people can experiment more during launch week.
"it's for the meta to decide that was my point, it's the meta that influences what we play and what we enjoy at any given time" - This statement tells me you dont care much about the deckbuilding aspect of the game, and thats fine. But a LOT of people do. The joy of every Johnny out there is to find a viable off-meta deck or an unique interaction that sometimes work and wins them the game. High winrates are NOT the main goal for these players. Hell, I look at VS reports/HS Replay to find out what i'm gonna face the most on ladder, not to copy anything!
This thread was interesting: everyone who enjoys deckbuilding agreed with me, while everyone who dont care about it and just want to win hated my suggestion. Johnnies and Spikes dont get along no matter what game it is huh.
I just want to survive to turn 7-8 so I can have a chance to equip the sword
I did understand you wasted your time typing this, however you replied to barely 10% of my post and ignored the rest, I don't think it's a langage issue. And I said more free stuff more quickly, which IS what you'ree asking.
It's so funny that you're a psychologist and needed to tell me that with pride, because you couldn't be more wrong about this analysis, I'm a hardcore deck builder I spend more time in the builder than in the actual game. That's literally the one reason why I pre order expansions. And I can tell you I enjoy my homebrew decks much more in metas where they can thrive, and I hate playing them in metas where they get crushed. That's called being human and it is baffling that a psychologist tries so hard to deny this simple fact just to make a point about his stupid boar. High winrate doesn't have to be a goal to be something that you unconsciously seek and enjoy. I think this discussion is pointless and thanks a lot for reinforcing what I already thought about psychologists. I'm a truck farmer by the way, since that matters, and english isn't my main langage either.
Nope, only the entitled F2P ones. "everyone who thinks like me agreed with me" fascinating.
"That's literally the one reason why I pre order expansions." - you're pretty much the living example of what I said earlier then, that rn experimentation is a whale's privilege. The point of my suggestion is exactly to make that less of a problem for f2p, not fix it entirely (since its impossible).
Again, no.. I dont want more free stuff more quickly, you sound like I want all freebies to be unlockable in the first week, thats not it. Not gonna bother explaining a third time, cuz as you said, this is becoming pointless. Finally something we can agree I guess.
Too bad you dont like psychologists, theres a lot you could get from therapy.
Idk i play about 2-3 hours per day and have 67 lvl. Not so long w8
60-70 isn't so hard to reach, to be fair. I'm already nearing 120.
What a story!
There is absolutely no reason for Blizzard to make this game more pleasant for f2p in any way. The free-to-play lure got you to try the game, and that is all they wanted. If you don't like it enough to pay, they are perfectly happy to make your time in the game as difficult as possible until you decide to either pay or leave.
In other words, it's not a problem at all. If it makes free players feel envious of paying players, it's working exactly as intended.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
I opened a single Boar. It was the first deck I played of the expac. I killed the opponent with the sword in the very first game. Second and third game I got the sword equipped but lost.
I'm not usually that guy but... Git Gud?
The only time I've seen the super sword was on day 1 of the expansion too. I think it got harder to achieve once the meta settled. Most decks finish the game before turn 10. This boar quest just takes longer than that. Maybe if I get lucky and queue into someone trying out quest priest or something. Otherwise, it's too slow at D5 where I'm playing.
That's fair. Even with all the card draw that Demon Hunter has, it takes at least 9 to 11 turns to draw through your deck and get the Boars out. I stopped playing it once I started running into spell mages.
It's a meme card, but i am having a lot of fun with it.
Lol, everything you said is 100% accurate. I find it amazing, the sense of entitlement SOME of the F2P base feels.
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