It made sense back when the deck was good with deck of lunacy pre nerf but now the deck is not that great, basically like mid to low tier 3. Despite this though the deck makes up close to 40% of my matches. Is it like this for other people or is my ladder just weird? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bad deck this popular before. I wouldn’t mind it so much if the deck wasn’t so boring to play against. It’s almost as annoying as priest when they just sit there trying to RNG something out of this air. How is this deck more common for me than elemental shaman? I crap on both decks but I just find this confusing.
It’s just the most fun deck to play right now. Plain and simple. You have some highroll potential in Incanter’s, you have variance through discover, and it has a lot of draw so it sees most of its deck each game.
Face hunter: Good, but not exciting. Just drop stuff and damage every turn.
Deathrattle DH: Not exciting, just tempo out and win the same with you always do, with king rush.
Ele shaman: Just play an elemental or weapon each turn until they’re dead or you are.
It's fun, not everyone who plays this game is a try hard who churns out a max win rate for cars game cool points. Half of the decks I run have a 30-40% win rate.
I imagine it is a confusing concept if you're..... you know.....a try hard.
These types of threads are always.... Interesting. "I find it really easy to beat, I'm not a scrub you know, its super easy to beat, I have a high win rate, I'm not a scrub, I just find it boring.
What's cringe is your lack of contextual awareness. I'm put the last part in so this didn't get filed away as a salt thread. If I hadn't people would have spammed me with "lulz git gud nub"
People don't typically play "fun" decks on ladder. As a mage main I find the deck detestable and I hate that it has become the identity of the class. When you relegate a deck to RNG clown fiesta nonsense you relinquish some level of control as to the outcome of your game which is why I hate the deck but also why it confuses me that it's so popular. It only performs well against 1 class and there's better things to play that are both fun and more well rounded. The deck itself is one dimensional in that there's almost no difference from one spell mage deck to another outside of including deck of lunacy or not. Some people find the deck fun, I think it's boring, and giving up control of the outcome of the game to hearthstone RNG is just boring.
Ps: I’m not a try hard, I’m not even running a meta deck right now. I can’t imagine how someone could think they’re original or “playing for fun” by just playing the same deck everyone else is playing.
The answer is your MMR I think. You’re probably with a win rate similar to the one that deck has. And also it’s fun, even if it’s not fun for you… I believe the amount of players playing it talks by itself.
it disappeared for what a month? Now it’s every deck I face again. I’m here playing fun decks like deathrattle hunter to hero power mage and gotta play all these soulless all spell mages again after the worst launch in hs xpac history
I played it when it was bad I played it when it was good I played after nerf . The only other decks are freeze mage which is way worse and spell power mage. Which are about same tier or worse for mage.
it disappeared for what a month? Now it’s every deck I face again. I’m here playing fun decks like deathrattle hunter to hero power mage and gotta play all these soulless all spell mages again after the worst launch in hs xpac history
LOL, the worst launch in HS history. This has got to be the most hilarious statement I’ve read on here in awhile.
Were you even around during demon hunter launch? Go look at “pre nerfed” demon hunter cards, and tell me this was the worst launch. What a joke
The answer is your MMR I think. You’re probably with a win rate similar to the one that deck has. And also it’s fun, even if it’s not fun for you… I believe the amount of players playing it talks by itself.
Hearthstone players Largely flock to meta decks. Popularity has a much bigger correlation to strength than fun. This is ladder we’re talking about.
I played it when it was bad I played it when it was good I played after nerf . The only other decks are freeze mage which is way worse and spell power mage. Which are about same tier or worse for mage.
I tried to like it but the game play is so stale and it gets stale fast. People keep saying random is fun but considering how fed up everyone is with priest I’m gonna say random isn’t fun.
The answer is your MMR I think. You’re probably with a win rate similar to the one that deck has. And also it’s fun, even if it’s not fun for you… I believe the amount of players playing it talks by itself.
Hearthstone players Largely flock to meta decks. Popularity has a much bigger correlation to strength than fun. This is ladder we’re talking about.
I played it when it was bad I played it when it was good I played after nerf . The only other decks are freeze mage which is way worse and spell power mage. Which are about same tier or worse for mage.
I tried to like it but the game play is so stale and it gets stale fast. People keep saying random is fun but considering how fed up everyone is with priest I’m gonna say random isn’t fun.
In what rank are you buddy and what’s your average winrate? You completely forgot my first point I see.
And no, ladder is not always strictly “competitive”. If you’re at high legend or at a close point, I can understand it. Platinum or even diamond? Yeah I don’t think so…
Sometimes I like to play competitive. But sometimes I prefer to play different and less performing decks. And I’ll do it on ladder, since Casual is mostly new players or people who REALLY don’t know their decks.
Answer my first question, and remember: YOUR gaming experience isn’t EVERYONE gaming experience. You play how you like.
Apologies for these questions, but were you around for Karazhan's Midrange Shaman with Tunnel Trogg and Spirit Claws? What about Deathrattle Hunter with Undertaker? Or even Mean Streets of Gadgetzan with Pirate Warrior, Renolock and Jade Druid? Or the best one being release Shudderwock Shaman and the infinite turns and timeouts it brought?
I'm sorry but this is probably one Hearthstone's better overall expansions and expansion meta-games if it's only getting really stale after the next expansion has been announced. It's taken months instead of weeks for the expansion to stale for some players in comparison to something like Rastakhan's Rumble.
1. It's good against Priest. 2. Random is still very fun for a lot of people.
This exactly. Beating Priest is a reason enough because playing against them is the most unfun experience in whole of HS right now. I don't play this deck (except the fire spells quest recently) but always liked the archetype and played it in the past when it was even less competitive. Problem is, this is the only way to play something vaguely fun with Mage as otherwise there is nothing better to do within the class so if you like Mage you are kinda stuck.
My biggest gripe is that whilst the archetype itself is fun, there are only two approaches and deck lists, really (with 1 card difference between them: Deck of Lunacy) and that makes it extremely boring for me.
Free players who jumped on board before the nerf may not have much choice but to continue playing a deck they went all in to craft. But as others have said, "beats Priest" is also a compelling reason, as is "beats Control Warlock," which is still surprisingly popular.
Don't worry. The new Questline Mage we're about to see will probably leave this list in the dust in terms of popularity, if not win rate.
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I agree, I am facing this deck a lot. I don't mind playing against it, it seems pretty fair, just very random. It draws really fast and has limited resources. I often beat them through fatigue.
What is strange to me is that if people are playing it for fun, as a tier 3 deck you can easily home brew something as good if you just get some practice on how to play it it, and do as well, while having more fun because you are using a deck you actually made yourself. It's the tier 1 and 2 meta decks homebrews really fall off against in my expereince, so any time a tier 3 deck is popular like this is a good time to experiment.
Spell mage is fun for those who don't know how to be creative with deck-building ... so the idea they have is that maximum randomness creates most fun ... okay.
I prefer to focus my randomness to things like my homebrew Secret Hunter, Secret Rogue, Zoolock and Murloc Paladin decks. I also play a Deck of Chaos Warlock deck that always catches opponents off guard. There is some randomness in each deck (e.g. weapon gives a Murloc, or generating some primes, discovering hunter stuff (weapon, beast, secret)) to make each game a little different. However, all are limited, so good opponents can figure it out and play around my cards.
Furthermore, typically you won't see these decks on the ladder so I also think it should be fun for the opponent to experience something new. Sure, they'll see a Hunter opponent and probably groan "uh, another Face Hunter" but within two turns they'll realise that the assumption was off, by a lot.
My mantra is ... when I'm just trying to have fun on ladder I also want my opponent to have fun, so I try to come up with decks that they don't normally see and have about a 50/50 winrate ... I've managed to climb to Gold this month jsut through playing the decks above and only gaining 1 star per win, so I must have a better than 50/50 win rate.
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It made sense back when the deck was good with deck of lunacy pre nerf but now the deck is not that great, basically like mid to low tier 3. Despite this though the deck makes up close to 40% of my matches. Is it like this for other people or is my ladder just weird? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bad deck this popular before. I wouldn’t mind it so much if the deck wasn’t so boring to play against. It’s almost as annoying as priest when they just sit there trying to RNG something out of this air. How is this deck more common for me than elemental shaman? I crap on both decks but I just find this confusing.
1. It's good against Priest.
2. Random is still very fun for a lot of people.
It’s just the most fun deck to play right now. Plain and simple. You have some highroll potential in Incanter’s, you have variance through discover, and it has a lot of draw so it sees most of its deck each game.
Face hunter: Good, but not exciting. Just drop stuff and damage every turn.
Deathrattle DH: Not exciting, just tempo out and win the same with you always do, with king rush.
Ele shaman: Just play an elemental or weapon each turn until they’re dead or you are.
It's fun, not everyone who plays this game is a try hard who churns out a max win rate for cars game cool points. Half of the decks I run have a 30-40% win rate.
I imagine it is a confusing concept if you're..... you know.....a try hard.
These types of threads are always.... Interesting. "I find it really easy to beat, I'm not a scrub you know, its super easy to beat, I have a high win rate, I'm not a scrub, I just find it boring.
Criiiiiinge
What's cringe is your lack of contextual awareness. I'm put the last part in so this didn't get filed away as a salt thread. If I hadn't people would have spammed me with "lulz git gud nub"
People don't typically play "fun" decks on ladder. As a mage main I find the deck detestable and I hate that it has become the identity of the class. When you relegate a deck to RNG clown fiesta nonsense you relinquish some level of control as to the outcome of your game which is why I hate the deck but also why it confuses me that it's so popular. It only performs well against 1 class and there's better things to play that are both fun and more well rounded. The deck itself is one dimensional in that there's almost no difference from one spell mage deck to another outside of including deck of lunacy or not. Some people find the deck fun, I think it's boring, and giving up control of the outcome of the game to hearthstone RNG is just boring.
Ps: I’m not a try hard, I’m not even running a meta deck right now. I can’t imagine how someone could think they’re original or “playing for fun” by just playing the same deck everyone else is playing.
If the face plays taunt me still spell face
The answer is your MMR I think. You’re probably with a win rate similar to the one that deck has. And also it’s fun, even if it’s not fun for you… I believe the amount of players playing it talks by itself.
Amazing..
it disappeared for what a month? Now it’s every deck I face again. I’m here playing fun decks like deathrattle hunter to hero power mage and gotta play all these soulless all spell mages again after the worst launch in hs xpac history
I played it when it was bad I played it when it was good I played after nerf . The only other decks are freeze mage which is way worse and spell power mage. Which are about same tier or worse for mage.
LOL, the worst launch in HS history. This has got to be the most hilarious statement I’ve read on here in awhile.
Were you even around during demon hunter launch? Go look at “pre nerfed” demon hunter cards, and tell me this was the worst launch. What a joke
Hearthstone players Largely flock to meta decks. Popularity has a much bigger correlation to strength than fun. This is ladder we’re talking about.
I tried to like it but the game play is so stale and it gets stale fast. People keep saying random is fun but considering how fed up everyone is with priest I’m gonna say random isn’t fun.
In what rank are you buddy and what’s your average winrate? You completely forgot my first point I see.
And no, ladder is not always strictly “competitive”. If you’re at high legend or at a close point, I can understand it. Platinum or even diamond? Yeah I don’t think so…
Sometimes I like to play competitive. But sometimes I prefer to play different and less performing decks. And I’ll do it on ladder, since Casual is mostly new players or people who REALLY don’t know their decks.
Answer my first question, and remember: YOUR gaming experience isn’t EVERYONE gaming experience. You play how you like.
Apologies for these questions, but were you around for Karazhan's Midrange Shaman with Tunnel Trogg and Spirit Claws? What about Deathrattle Hunter with Undertaker? Or even Mean Streets of Gadgetzan with Pirate Warrior, Renolock and Jade Druid? Or the best one being release Shudderwock Shaman and the infinite turns and timeouts it brought?
I'm sorry but this is probably one Hearthstone's better overall expansions and expansion meta-games if it's only getting really stale after the next expansion has been announced. It's taken months instead of weeks for the expansion to stale for some players in comparison to something like Rastakhan's Rumble.
I'm playing it, because it's the fastest way to complete the Fire spells quest.
This exactly. Beating Priest is a reason enough because playing against them is the most unfun experience in whole of HS right now. I don't play this deck (except the fire spells quest recently) but always liked the archetype and played it in the past when it was even less competitive. Problem is, this is the only way to play something vaguely fun with Mage as otherwise there is nothing better to do within the class so if you like Mage you are kinda stuck.
My biggest gripe is that whilst the archetype itself is fun, there are only two approaches and deck lists, really (with 1 card difference between them: Deck of Lunacy) and that makes it extremely boring for me.
This. The true reason why people are playing the deck again.
Free players who jumped on board before the nerf may not have much choice but to continue playing a deck they went all in to craft. But as others have said, "beats Priest" is also a compelling reason, as is "beats Control Warlock," which is still surprisingly popular.
Don't worry. The new Questline Mage we're about to see will probably leave this list in the dust in terms of popularity, if not win rate.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
I agree, I am facing this deck a lot. I don't mind playing against it, it seems pretty fair, just very random. It draws really fast and has limited resources. I often beat them through fatigue.
What is strange to me is that if people are playing it for fun, as a tier 3 deck you can easily home brew something as good if you just get some practice on how to play it it, and do as well, while having more fun because you are using a deck you actually made yourself. It's the tier 1 and 2 meta decks homebrews really fall off against in my expereince, so any time a tier 3 deck is popular like this is a good time to experiment.
Easiest farm deck, well maybe a Tie between them and Elemental Shamans - always happy to see them.
The only deck that seriously needs Balancing is DR Demonhunter, specifically this abomination
This WILL run Havoc for the remainder of any Meta if not addressed.
Spell mage is fun for those who don't know how to be creative with deck-building ... so the idea they have is that maximum randomness creates most fun ... okay.
I prefer to focus my randomness to things like my homebrew Secret Hunter, Secret Rogue, Zoolock and Murloc Paladin decks. I also play a Deck of Chaos Warlock deck that always catches opponents off guard. There is some randomness in each deck (e.g. weapon gives a Murloc, or generating some primes, discovering hunter stuff (weapon, beast, secret)) to make each game a little different. However, all are limited, so good opponents can figure it out and play around my cards.
Furthermore, typically you won't see these decks on the ladder so I also think it should be fun for the opponent to experience something new. Sure, they'll see a Hunter opponent and probably groan "uh, another Face Hunter" but within two turns they'll realise that the assumption was off, by a lot.
My mantra is ... when I'm just trying to have fun on ladder I also want my opponent to have fun, so I try to come up with decks that they don't normally see and have about a 50/50 winrate ... I've managed to climb to Gold this month jsut through playing the decks above and only gaining 1 star per win, so I must have a better than 50/50 win rate.