Saw a note that Stealer of Souls is being banned from wild. With the precedent set, would love to see Reno banned. Hate that card 10x more than Stealer of Souls. Anyone else?
Saw a note that Stealer of Souls is being banned from wild. With the precedent set, would love to see Reno banned. Hate that card 10x more than Stealer of Souls. Anyone else?
Yeah, why not? Let's ban every single card you hate! That makes a lot of sense! -.-
May not change your opinion, but the thought is not simply to ban cards I hate. In my opinion, Reno is by far the most broken card in the game. Fully resetting health erases everything that took place prior, and fundamentally changes the game in a negative manner. I didn't frankly see anywhere near the same level of problem with Stealer of Souls. Seems similar to many other combo OTK decks. At least it takes stringing together a combo, Reno is 1 card that wields similar power completely by itself.
May not change your opinion, but the thought is not simply to ban cards I hate. In my opinion, Reno is by far the most broken card in the game. Fully resetting health erases everything that took place prior, and fundamentally changes the game in a negative manner. I didn't frankly see anywhere near the same level of problem with Stealer of Souls. Seems similar to many other combo OTK decks. At least it takes stringing together a combo, Reno is 1 card that wields similar power completely by itself.
Not really renos an oh shit card that saves you from a failed kill and stall a bit..you can still very much for after playing Reno meanwhile stealer of souls is basically an old school OTK
May not change your opinion, but the thought is not simply to ban cards I hate. In my opinion, Reno is by far the most broken card in the game. Fully resetting health erases everything that took place prior, and fundamentally changes the game in a negative manner. I didn't frankly see anywhere near the same level of problem with Stealer of Souls. Seems similar to many other combo OTK decks. At least it takes stringing together a combo, Reno is 1 card that wields similar power completely by itself.
Not really renos an oh shit card that saves you from a failed kill and stall a bit..you can still very much for after playing Reno meanwhile stealer of souls is basically an old school OTK
Fair enough. Seems I'm on an island with my opinion. Darn. For whatever its worth, none of you convinced me why this card isn't completely broken. But whatever. I'll go back to my hole and continue autoconceding when the most broken card in the game comes down. Have a nice day
Saw a note that Stealer of Souls is being banned from wild. With the precedent set, would love to see Reno banned. Hate that card 10x more than Stealer of Souls. Anyone else?
Banning top-X most used cards in every format is really good idea, what do you think?
It worked that way in Urban Rivals (CCG too): the bans weren't automate, but there was a weekeend poll where you could vote "Yes" or "No" for each most-used "class" card. Poll was active for 2 days and new bans took place from Monday. Simply: if there were more "Yes" votes than "No" votes, card is banned for a week.
(I don't remember well how unbanned cards participate in next vote, as I remember, you should vote next week do you want to unban card or not)
Also: The more rank you have, the more votes you have. And the vote is open, you can see how much votes are now for each card.
Example how it could be done in HS:
Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Legend: have 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 and 20 votes in same order (for example again)
It can be adapted easily to hs with one exception, that core archetypes cards (if there are some) cannot be banned, if the whole deck is based on these pair of cards, like Shudderwock, Mecha'thun or Shadowreaper Anduin. But you can still ban most used control, cycle or neutral cards for these decks like Violet Illusionist if you would find them super powerful.
If Reno Jackson was actually anywhere close to as oppressive as stealer of souls was, they'd have nerfed it to 7 mana a long time ago. Most of the decks I see on the wild ladder are, in fact, not highlander decks.
In addition, why do you even think it should be outright banned and not simply nerfed?
No need to try and convince you. Because it's a completely stupid idea that is based in Salt. Salty aggro player. Btw, how do you ban a card from wild? Delete it? Dumb
Blizzard opened the flood gates of stupidity when they banned the first card in wild. Now for every strong card there will be someone wanting it banned while completely missing the point of banning. The only reason Stealer of Souls was banned instead of nerfed is so the card is preserved for Standard. And news flash: If Reno was anywhere close to needing a nerf...it would have been done a long time ago. Sorry that you cant win every game by going face brainlessly, but Reno isn't going anywhere.
Stealer of Souls, in conjunction with Plot Twist, will end the game almost every time. A 6-mana 2-card combo in a deck that already requires insane card draw for the combo to work, thus making it far more consistent than any other combo deck I've known of.
Reno, for the same mana, will heal you to full.
I'm not sure in what universe healing to full is more powerful than killing your opponent. So, the real question is, does the fact that stealer of souls requires other pieces to work correctly makes it worse than reno? Because of the sheer amount of card draw available to warlock, and ran in the list by necessity, I'm going to have to go with no. It seems that they can easily double the card draw of a regular singleton deck, and while I haven't done the math, I suspect that deck putting together Stealer+plot twist is more likely than a singleton deck drawing reno.
May not change your opinion, but the thought is not simply to ban cards I hate. In my opinion, Reno is by far the most broken card in the game. Fully resetting health erases everything that took place prior, and fundamentally changes the game in a negative manner. I didn't frankly see anywhere near the same level of problem with Stealer of Souls. Seems similar to many other combo OTK decks. At least it takes stringing together a combo, Reno is 1 card that wields similar power completely by itself.
if you think that a full heal is the worst thing in this game you have a lot to learn.
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Saw a note that Stealer of Souls is being banned from wild. With the precedent set, would love to see Reno banned. Hate that card 10x more than Stealer of Souls. Anyone else?
Yeah, why not? Let's ban every single card you hate! That makes a lot of sense! -.-
C'mon, dude...
This card is not even top5 problem of the wild.
Forgive me, don't wanna sound like an asshole, seriously, but what is the logical reason for such a request?
May not change your opinion, but the thought is not simply to ban cards I hate. In my opinion, Reno is by far the most broken card in the game. Fully resetting health erases everything that took place prior, and fundamentally changes the game in a negative manner. I didn't frankly see anywhere near the same level of problem with Stealer of Souls. Seems similar to many other combo OTK decks. At least it takes stringing together a combo, Reno is 1 card that wields similar power completely by itself.
Reno is best card, literally in my every deck since I only play highlander :D standard is so stupid without this card
May I ask those top 5?
Not really renos an oh shit card that saves you from a failed kill and stall a bit..you can still very much for after playing Reno meanwhile stealer of souls is basically an old school OTK
That is exactly my point. It is way to good for one card
No, it doesn't. Reno doesn't deal with the board the turn it is played.
Fair enough. Seems I'm on an island with my opinion. Darn. For whatever its worth, none of you convinced me why this card isn't completely broken. But whatever. I'll go back to my hole and continue autoconceding when the most broken card in the game comes down. Have a nice day
Nope, just you and your aggro decks.
Aggro/burn deck player spotted lol
Banning top-X most used cards in every format is really good idea, what do you think?
It worked that way in Urban Rivals (CCG too): the bans weren't automate, but there was a weekeend poll where you could vote "Yes" or "No" for each most-used "class" card. Poll was active for 2 days and new bans took place from Monday. Simply: if there were more "Yes" votes than "No" votes, card is banned for a week.
(I don't remember well how unbanned cards participate in next vote, as I remember, you should vote next week do you want to unban card or not)
Also: The more rank you have, the more votes you have. And the vote is open, you can see how much votes are now for each card.
Example how it could be done in HS:
Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Legend: have 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 and 20 votes in same order (for example again)
Exemplary poll (for wild):
========================
Y = yes, N = no
Armor Vendor [28% Y] [62 N]
Reno Jackson [46% Y] [54% N)
Loatheb [35% Y] [65% N]
Violet Illusionist [60% Y] [40% N]
Zephrys the Great [22% Y] [78% N]
============================
It can be adapted easily to hs with one exception, that core archetypes cards (if there are some) cannot be banned, if the whole deck is based on these pair of cards, like Shudderwock, Mecha'thun or Shadowreaper Anduin. But you can still ban most used control, cycle or neutral cards for these decks like Violet Illusionist if you would find them super powerful.
Hilarious. No. You're just mad because you lost to it. The salt thread is over here:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/212005-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty
If Reno Jackson was actually anywhere close to as oppressive as stealer of souls was, they'd have nerfed it to 7 mana a long time ago. Most of the decks I see on the wild ladder are, in fact, not highlander decks.
In addition, why do you even think it should be outright banned and not simply nerfed?
No need to try and convince you. Because it's a completely stupid idea that is based in Salt. Salty aggro player. Btw, how do you ban a card from wild? Delete it? Dumb
Blizzard opened the flood gates of stupidity when they banned the first card in wild. Now for every strong card there will be someone wanting it banned while completely missing the point of banning. The only reason Stealer of Souls was banned instead of nerfed is so the card is preserved for Standard. And news flash: If Reno was anywhere close to needing a nerf...it would have been done a long time ago. Sorry that you cant win every game by going face brainlessly, but Reno isn't going anywhere.
Let's see...
Stealer of Souls, in conjunction with Plot Twist, will end the game almost every time. A 6-mana 2-card combo in a deck that already requires insane card draw for the combo to work, thus making it far more consistent than any other combo deck I've known of.
Reno, for the same mana, will heal you to full.
I'm not sure in what universe healing to full is more powerful than killing your opponent. So, the real question is, does the fact that stealer of souls requires other pieces to work correctly makes it worse than reno? Because of the sheer amount of card draw available to warlock, and ran in the list by necessity, I'm going to have to go with no. It seems that they can easily double the card draw of a regular singleton deck, and while I haven't done the math, I suspect that deck putting together Stealer+plot twist is more likely than a singleton deck drawing reno.
if you think that a full heal is the worst thing in this game you have a lot to learn.