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Hahahahahaahha.

Aaaaahh.

Ok, I needed the morning laugh.

There's not a lot to say to be honest as you are, by your own admission, woefully ignorant and with clear deficiencies/biases that stop you from understanding how statistics work or what they even are. I'll try to elucidate you on why that's the case.

The VS report is based on 195.000 games, almost 6% of which (at all ranks) were control warrior games. Now, that's not even that many overall as according to hsreplay almost 12 million games have been played in the past week alone but, as a starting point, it's a good enough number to extrapolate from. What isn't statistically a good enough number, under any circumstance, is a pathetic 26 games played between diamond and dumpster legend. In fact, 26 games wouldn't be relevant to anything even if you'd gone from legend 15 to legend 1 with a 26-0 run (in fact, it'd be less relevant than your dumpster legend journey, funnily enough). That isn't to say that you possibly found the miraculous metabreaker, the one build of control warrior that magically elevates from tier 4 (tier 4 at all ranks, might I add) to tier 2. It is possible. Laughably unlikely, but still possible.

What actually isn't possible is that the vs report is, as you put it, wrong, when it comes to the statistics it presents. To paraphrase an overly used statement from the past months, "stats don't care about your feelings". It's possible, albeit unlikely, that the vs report next week will say "hey we were wrong, based on the new data we obtained, control warrior is actually tier 2" but at the present moment, control warrior is a dumpster archetype, marginally better than control warlock (or marginally worse, depending on your rank and meta pocket), with its best matchup against what is possibly the worst deck of the entire expansion, the almighty celestial druid that boasts a very healthy 35% wr overall. 

Those are the facts, dear lad. Your meaningless 26 games don't change anything about that because 26 games are entirely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. And to be brutally honest, one might think that there are players out there who are more knowledgeable about the game and about control warrior as an archetype than you, you'd imagine that at least one of them would have come up with some good control warrior list by this point, don't you think? 

The fact of the matter is, with enough luck (or, who knows, skill) you can reach legend with any deck. That's been true since the system changed and singular lucky streaks aren't unheard of (a 62% wr is pretty pedestrian, if we're being realistic here). But if you want anything you say to have statistical weight, go play a few thousand games with your control warrior deck. If at that point you'll still have a 62% wr then I'll be listening to your vs is wrong!1!!1!!ELEVEN tirade but until then...you are wrong and vs isn't. Cheers.

 And here is why you are probably wrong:

- control warrior is a generic name for a deck which doesn't account for different versions of it (like the one OP presented)

- not everyone is able to pilot control decks properly

- not everyone is able to pilot warrior correctly

- likely a lot of people are trying to counter aggro (since this shit game is so full of it every time) that they may have turned to one of the classes that historically is good at control, the warrior

- there is positive correlation between my last point and the previous two

So, dear lad, the statistics you are so fond of and depend on, are nothing but a global view on things, that doesn't consider every variable that actually matters in such a computation. The easiest missing fact is the play times - the later it is in the day for people, the more mistakes they do with any deck. And so on...

Hope I was clear enough on why those stats are not meta defining nor unbeatable, but rather give a very general idea on you might be facing on the ladder. There is so much "human nature" involved in any game that you'd have dozens of excel sheets for different computations based on all of these variables (and averaging the resulting win rates would obviously be wrong).

it is possible for VS to be wrong, 'lad,'.  your smarmy and cocksure attitude make your entire post unpalatable and completely undermines whatever good points you may have had in there.

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it is possible for VS to be wrong, 'lad,'.  your smarmy and cocksure attitude make your entire post unpalatable and completely undermines whatever good points you may have had in there.

 So you agree with me but dont like me? Sure buddy, I can live with that.

Just wanted to updated this thread a bit, I tested and found an even BETTER list than the one I got legend with:

Stats are attached. This list fixes the Doom Shaman and DR DH matchups (N'zoth wins those games on the spot, too much armor gain) while still being able to beat Priest, so its a direct upgrade to my last one.

The point of this thread is to show that CW has tons of untapped potential, the archetype wasnt even CLOSE to being refined when the VS Report came out, dismissing it as "failed experiment" was way too irresponsible. Hopefully more people will try CW out and change the crappy reputation this last VS Report gave it.

I mean you're rank 3,000 and it's early June. Not like you're exactly high legend, which is where balance really matters, and where CW sucks.

Nice deck! Around 2k legend I also use CW as one of my stronger decks. However I find Minefield way Stronger then Slam. Against Face Hunter or Deathrattle Demonhunter it is very likely that it clears 2/3 minions.

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Deathrattle DemonHunter deals with this easily!

 This also eats Face Hunter and Elemental Shaman for breakfast. So your point is, it has an unfavorable matchup therefore its bad? Those two decks must be bad too then LOL.

 get out of internet dude, look at ur nick, how can someone take you seriously? And about success congratulations but just cause u tryharded a lot with a class that u like a lot (irc ctrl warrior =x)  doesn't mean anything.

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I mean you're rank 3,000 and it's early June. Not like you're exactly high legend, which is where balance really matters, and where CW sucks.

 was about to say this xD. Has OP fixed his leg rank number yet?

Quote from RolandofGilead >>

I mean you're rank 3,000 and it's early June. Not like you're exactly high legend, which is where balance really matters, and where CW sucks.

 You put C'thun in any deck and it becomes tier 4 dude, the list on that report was made by people who didnt bother to try and refine CW. It only took me a couple days to make a list that beats ALL the current popular decks (Shaman, DH, Hunter and Priest, all perfectly beatable).

Thousands of stats dont mean anything if people keep netdecking bad lists, the point here is that CW has a lot of room for improvement, dont need to grind until high legend to make this clear.

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Nice deck! Around 2k legend I also use CW as one of my stronger decks. However I find Minefield way Stronger then Slam. Against Face Hunter or Deathrattle Demonhunter it is very likely that it clears 2/3 minions.

 I tried Minefield, didnt feel necessary to me, was already very favorable against all aggressive decks. Slam is good in all matchups, you need to draw a lot to make Silas OTK consistent. Which wincons are you using? Feel free to share your list here!