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that is not true lol.
If i play a solid, viable control list ( priest or warrior or anything else that has control options) that can even be considered t2 , and i dont stand a chance and die by turn 5 or 6 (in multiple games even with good draws), then theres definetely a problem with the current state of aggro OP-ness.
I'd rather face 100 face hunters back to back than one priest.
I made 2000 legend easily with a basic control warrior with ooze and no rattlegore, if you play the greedy control warrior taken off youtubers with Mutanus ofc you loose
It is almost impossible to lose a game vs hunter when you have stuff like minefield, rancor, bulwark, kresh and lot of card draw
if you wanna list PM me,
Gotta be honest, no offense but that sounds like you're bad then. If they have 11 board clears, then they've already wasted a third of their deck on removal, and if you're losing to it then you're overextending.
If they're dealing 30+ damage directly to your face, then you aren't playing aggressive enough to force them to use their damage cards on your board instead.
And those definitely don't happen in the same deck, so clearly you aren't facing the same archetype over and over.
You need to learn to play around the opponent you're currently facing. If your deck is good you should be winning against any opponent, even if they counter you, 35-40% of the time minimum.
you guys obviously have no idea what you're talking about. OR, maybe you're Americans.
And if i'm so bad, how did i reach legend then?
Play around your opponent - what an advice ! Tell me how to play around someone who vomits every card in my face with insane amounts of direct dmg that i can't outheal or outvalue if its just turn 5 and i used everything i drew for optimum heal/sustain/ etc?
And of course i do win games vs those matchups.
Not facing the same archetypes you say? yesterday for example i played vs 3 shamans straight ( the popular meta elemental version), with 2 face hunters afterwards and a 4th shaman after those hunters. So yea, you sure know whats going on buddy..
Yes I face those archetypes too as a priest. Against hunter it is aan easy win, against shaman it is about 50-50. Lot of them complaining about all the healing of priest though...
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-198/
Hunter
That older, paladin, meta was much, much better.
Priest still without a tier 1 deck... not even 2
Lol, the meta is just as bad as i has been for severeal years. Aggro is the only viable option. This game is dead. Will never be good again.
VS report is not far different from what I said. Hunter punishes all those inefficient decks --> temporarily tier1...people move away from said decks, hunter goes back to being just a good deck with its strengths and weaknesses
another fkn idiotic match that i have to tell you about:
i played my ctrl warrior again vs a shaman. he was down to 1 card in his hand, 0 minions on board and i was at 15hp.
Last card was of course instructor fireheart. and he gets all the 1 mana 3 dmg stuff lilke lightning bolt and some rockbiter weapon, getting me killed.
srsly what is this game ?! this is a pure fvcking joke
If by almost impossible you mean a 55/45 split then yeah, it's almost impossible. Without even considering that control warrior is a tier 4 deck, so it's more of a testament to your luck that you reached legend with it than anything else, if we're being frank here.
Man, I hate the current meta. Everything I'd really like to play (Dude Pally, Weapon Rogue, Frenzy Warrior, Zoolock) is more or less unplayable and the only other sort of interesting deck (Rush Warrior) is so damn expensive to craft. So, left with another two months of Token Druid. /*Yawn*/
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
Yeah, it's amazing what they can do when they get the 3 most important things in the game!
Weapon rogue is 53% winrate and zoolock is 56% right now.
Dude Pally isn't in Standard right now so I'm not sure what you mean by that. There's maybe 7 cards for it in Standard total.
Frenzy War is pretty bad in this meta so that one I'll give you.
You either only quote the best performing decks with a low sample size or low rank statistics. If you take the average over all decks from Diamond to Legend since the mini set, then Weapon Rogue is at 47.85% and Zoolock at 44.04%. Both losing decks.
Well, Dude Pally clearly exists. There are Lothraxion the Redeemed, Carnival Barker, Balloon Merchant, Day at the Faire, Stand Against Darkness, Soldier's Caravan and Pursuit of Justice, all clearly tied to this archetype. It just hasn't a top tier meta deck at the moment, and that is precisely my point.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
From my perspective it's probably the worst meta ever, since there's only one viable control deck (Priest) and it's not even that good. But I think this is exactly what Blizzard always wanted - a fast paced (casual) mobile game where you just hit face ASAP and move on. I'm not saying it's bad, because most people seem to like it, but it's definitely not for me.
The only thing I don't get is why Team 5 keep designing expensive cards when there's no room (deck) to play them. It doesn't make any sense to me.
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-198/
Not quoting low sample size or low rank buddy. Weapon Rogue isn't amazing in Legend but it's still Tier 3, aka playable. Zoo doesn't really get played at legend but is still positive at Gold+.
And no, we aren't using "the average across all decks" because that's moronic, why would I include bad builds? We're talking about if you build the deck properly, not rando scrubs running budget builds.
And wow, you linked the 7 cards that I had already mentioned. Amazing. Protip, decks have 30 cards in them. Not 13. Those are just cards left over from when Dude Pally was an archetype last year, and the rest of the archetype rotated out. And they don't have enough coverage; old Dude Pally had Adapt, it had free Lions, it had Tarim, and was mainly an aggro deck. The current version has lost the aggro component so it's not a full deck anymore. A few summon cards and some +Atk doesnt make a full archetype. There's no draw, no value, etc. Hell, Balloon Merchant is literally a 4 mana +1 attack if you already played Lothraxion. Most of what was played in the old Dude pally got cycled out with core set, and there aren't enough synergies to play the deck right now. It's like riding a bike with one wheel.
People still believe Control Warrior is tier 4? Dude, that VS Report features a deck running C'Thun, ANY deck running it is a tier 4 deck LMFAO.
CW is easy tier 2, farms Face Hunter and Elemental Shaman better than anyone. Magic things happen when you take C'thun out of any list..