This is not confirmed, but it's obvious that Imprisoned Felmaw's RNG isn't purely random. Its RNG is 50% face, 50% board. This means that adding more minions (than 1) on the board won't help you avoid an attack to the face.
Is Archdruid Naralex the same? Because I swear I get Nightmare like 50% of the time.
That's not how you calculate probability, the more minions in play the less chances Felmaw hits face. And no, Naralex is not rigged, from 5 dreams available, you get 2 and they can repeat, that's all.
That's not how you calculate probability, the more minions in play the less chances Felmaw hits face. And no, Naralex is not rigged, from 5 dreams available, you get 2 and they can repeat, that's all.
Do you really understand how probability works?
You CAN rig probability.
Let's say there are 3 types of items, A, B, and C. If there is only one of each type, the chances of getting an A is only 1/3.
However, you CAN reduce the chances by adding more B or C items. For example, there is only 1 A, but there are 3 Bs and 3 Cs. The chances of getting A is now only 1/7.
These two RNGs are the same. You CAN rig them in the code. It's actually pretty easy.
In fact, Hearthstone has actually confirmed that they rigged some of the Discover card's RNG, so that they can't Discover itself.
While you can rig probability in the code, I'm just kind of unsure as to why you believe its a set 50/50 for Fel'maw... Did you average the place it hits after hundreds of games, or just taking that statistic from the famous "Dude, trust me" source?
That's not how you calculate probability, the more minions in play the less chances Felmaw hits face. And no, Naralex is not rigged, from 5 dreams available, you get 2 and they can repeat, that's all.
Do you really understand how probability works?
You CAN rig probability.
Let's say there are 3 types of items, A, B, and C. If there is only one of each type, the chances of getting an A is only 1/3.
However, you CAN reduce the chances by adding more B or C items. For example, there is only 1 A, but there are 3 Bs and 3 Cs. The chances of getting A is now only 1/7.
These two RNGs are the same. You CAN rig them in the code. It's actually pretty easy.
In fact, Hearthstone has actually confirmed that they rigged some of the Discover card's RNG, so that they can't Discover itself.
You're not "rigging" the probability. Probability is just the mathematical chance of a resulting outcome based on the possible choices and desired outcome. Rigging implies it's being faked to appear real while it isn't. Changing the probability based on the number of possibilities is still a probability. What you're referring to is changing the individual outcome of each individual card's fixed probability by changing the seed.
Think of it like lottery scratch off tickets. They know exactly how much money the entire batch of tickets makes before it's scratched off. They will sell the all of the tickets for X amount and all of the tickets unscratched will pay out Y amount. That's not rigging probability. It fixes the probability of each winning amount based on what was printed by the original batch, that's the seed.
In the case of a lottery, every time a ticket is drawn, those probabilities technically change because either a winner or loser was removed from the seed. In the case of Hearthstone outcomes the seed doesn't change after a card is drawn. So whether it's 1 in 5 because there's only 1 of each card seeded or the seed is card 1 has 2 while cards 2-5 only have 1 each, that makes card 1's probability 1 out of 3 while the other cards are 1 out of 6.
It's also possible that they have different seeds for each choice of a discover where you may have a better chance for holy cards in the first choice, better chance for shadow cards in the second choice and an equal chance for both in the third choice. It's completely based on the seed. You can alter the seed so it doesn't self replicate or include more search cards, etc.
If it was really rigged someone smarter than you would have proved it long ago, especially Felmaw, this is "not confirmed" because this is not real. I was going to say you most likely have a very small sample size, but do you have one at all ?
This is not confirmed, but it's obvious that Imprisoned Felmaw's RNG isn't purely random. Its RNG is 50% face, 50% board. This means that adding more minions (than 1) on the board won't help you avoid an attack to the face.
Is Archdruid Naralex the same? Because I swear I get Nightmare like 50% of the time.
That's interesting, if you could link the source of the confirmation of this by Blizzard or an extensive study which shows this is how it works then that would be great.
Helpful tip for future - just list sources in your post. It clears up a lot of confusion or people rejecting what you're saying. Not listing them could appear like you don't have one and you're just making it up based on 'feelings'.
No, certain accounts are flagged to be rigged. Accounts that haven't spent any money at all are highly likely to be flagged so you go on long losing streaks and therefore buy packs. This has been proven by a a few people saying this is what they think happens. Blizzard wants to keep people at silver and gold ranks because this will increase their profits.
I'm lucky in that my account hasn't been flagged but I did play against 3 rogues in a row the other day, so my time in the sun may be coming to an end. I can't see how that is possible, 3 games against the same class, the odds are just way, way off based on my feelings and therefore I am justified in asserting that it's rigged because Blizzard are greedy.
Why don’t the mods just sticky a ‘Rigged RNG/Matchmaking’ thread where all of this stuff can go?
I’m being semi-serious here, even the Salt thread has become less interesting as you have to wade through conspiracies to get to the entertaining salt posts.
No, certain accounts are flagged to be rigged. Accounts that haven't spent any money at all are highly likely to be flagged so you go on long losing streaks and therefore buy packs. This has been proven by a a few people saying this is what they think happens. Blizzard wants to keep people at silver and gold ranks because this will increase their profits.
I'm lucky in that my account hasn't been flagged but I did play against 3 rogues in a row the other day, so my time in the sun may be coming to an end. I can't see how that is possible, 3 games against the same class, the odds are just way, way off based on my feelings and therefore I am justified in asserting that it's rigged because Blizzard are greedy.
Good thing you had posted literally 2 posts above this, because otherwise I would have actually believed this to be a serious post and not a sarcastic one. Probably reading the salt thread too much, that place really gets to you.
Blizzard rigs RNG in a variety of ways for a variety of reasons. But some on this site will continue to deny it as if their livelihoods depended on it.
Blizzard rigs RNG in a variety of ways for a variety of reasons. But some on this site will continue to deny it as if their livelihoods depended on it.
manage or conduct (something) fraudulently so as to produce a result or situation that is advantageous to a particular person
1) In the manner of "rigging" something, we have to agree that the only person(s) who could "rig" this game would be Blizzard unless every opponent you play has figured out to actively hack Blizzard's games to change the results of a random card generator.
2) If we agree that it's not 1) and Blizzard is the one doing the supposed rigging, how would changing the outcome of a random outcome for specific players be advantageous to them in any way? It isn't. There's no Naralek shift at Blizzard to watch every outcome and decide, you know, I don't like the name Garglespore because it just sounds gross and RandomNinja is awesome sounding so I'm gonna give Garglespore a card that won't help him.
3) It's NOT RIGGED. It's bad luck OR the choice pool is intentionally seeded to produce specific outcomes more often than others. That's not rigging because the intention was to make certain outcomes appear less often than others, not to gain advantage. If they are doing it, it's probably altering the power of the card at 3 cost to not be as powerful as the card at 9 cost in the case of Naralex.
4) Naralex just has bad dreams.
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This is not confirmed, but it's obvious that Imprisoned Felmaw's RNG isn't purely random. Its RNG is 50% face, 50% board. This means that adding more minions (than 1) on the board won't help you avoid an attack to the face.
Is Archdruid Naralex the same? Because I swear I get Nightmare like 50% of the time.
That's not how you calculate probability, the more minions in play the less chances Felmaw hits face. And no, Naralex is not rigged, from 5 dreams available, you get 2 and they can repeat, that's all.
Do you really understand how probability works?
You CAN rig probability.
Let's say there are 3 types of items, A, B, and C. If there is only one of each type, the chances of getting an A is only 1/3.
However, you CAN reduce the chances by adding more B or C items. For example, there is only 1 A, but there are 3 Bs and 3 Cs. The chances of getting A is now only 1/7.
These two RNGs are the same. You CAN rig them in the code. It's actually pretty easy.
In fact, Hearthstone has actually confirmed that they rigged some of the Discover card's RNG, so that they can't Discover itself.
While you can rig probability in the code, I'm just kind of unsure as to why you believe its a set 50/50 for Fel'maw... Did you average the place it hits after hundreds of games, or just taking that statistic from the famous "Dude, trust me" source?
You're not "rigging" the probability. Probability is just the mathematical chance of a resulting outcome based on the possible choices and desired outcome. Rigging implies it's being faked to appear real while it isn't. Changing the probability based on the number of possibilities is still a probability. What you're referring to is changing the individual outcome of each individual card's fixed probability by changing the seed.
Think of it like lottery scratch off tickets. They know exactly how much money the entire batch of tickets makes before it's scratched off. They will sell the all of the tickets for X amount and all of the tickets unscratched will pay out Y amount. That's not rigging probability. It fixes the probability of each winning amount based on what was printed by the original batch, that's the seed.
In the case of a lottery, every time a ticket is drawn, those probabilities technically change because either a winner or loser was removed from the seed. In the case of Hearthstone outcomes the seed doesn't change after a card is drawn. So whether it's 1 in 5 because there's only 1 of each card seeded or the seed is card 1 has 2 while cards 2-5 only have 1 each, that makes card 1's probability 1 out of 3 while the other cards are 1 out of 6.
It's also possible that they have different seeds for each choice of a discover where you may have a better chance for holy cards in the first choice, better chance for shadow cards in the second choice and an equal chance for both in the third choice. It's completely based on the seed. You can alter the seed so it doesn't self replicate or include more search cards, etc.
If it was really rigged someone smarter than you would have proved it long ago, especially Felmaw, this is "not confirmed" because this is not real. I was going to say you most likely have a very small sample size, but do you have one at all ?
From 12 cards I got 12 times nightmare. 99% sure it's rigged or bugged.
Just wear a tin foil hat, while playing HS.
That's interesting, if you could link the source of the confirmation of this by Blizzard or an extensive study which shows this is how it works then that would be great.
Helpful tip for future - just list sources in your post. It clears up a lot of confusion or people rejecting what you're saying. Not listing them could appear like you don't have one and you're just making it up based on 'feelings'.
If it is rigged EVERY player had the same issues.
No, certain accounts are flagged to be rigged. Accounts that haven't spent any money at all are highly likely to be flagged so you go on long losing streaks and therefore buy packs. This has been proven by a a few people saying this is what they think happens. Blizzard wants to keep people at silver and gold ranks because this will increase their profits.
I'm lucky in that my account hasn't been flagged but I did play against 3 rogues in a row the other day, so my time in the sun may be coming to an end. I can't see how that is possible, 3 games against the same class, the odds are just way, way off based on my feelings and therefore I am justified in asserting that it's rigged because Blizzard are greedy.
never mind
The card was programmed to take into account your battle tag specifically.
Take a walk on the wild side...
Never mind
Why don’t the mods just sticky a ‘Rigged RNG/Matchmaking’ thread where all of this stuff can go?
I’m being semi-serious here, even the Salt thread has become less interesting as you have to wade through conspiracies to get to the entertaining salt posts.
Good thing you had posted literally 2 posts above this, because otherwise I would have actually believed this to be a serious post and not a sarcastic one. Probably reading the salt thread too much, that place really gets to you.
Blizzard rigs RNG in a variety of ways for a variety of reasons. But some on this site will continue to deny it as if their livelihoods depended on it.
Couldn’t agree more
In what ways? What proof is there? What is motivating them to rig the RNG of Felmaw or Naralex?
1) In the manner of "rigging" something, we have to agree that the only person(s) who could "rig" this game would be Blizzard unless every opponent you play has figured out to actively hack Blizzard's games to change the results of a random card generator.
2) If we agree that it's not 1) and Blizzard is the one doing the supposed rigging, how would changing the outcome of a random outcome for specific players be advantageous to them in any way? It isn't. There's no Naralek shift at Blizzard to watch every outcome and decide, you know, I don't like the name Garglespore because it just sounds gross and RandomNinja is awesome sounding so I'm gonna give Garglespore a card that won't help him.
3) It's NOT RIGGED. It's bad luck OR the choice pool is intentionally seeded to produce specific outcomes more often than others. That's not rigging because the intention was to make certain outcomes appear less often than others, not to gain advantage. If they are doing it, it's probably altering the power of the card at 3 cost to not be as powerful as the card at 9 cost in the case of Naralex.
4) Naralex just has bad dreams.