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Who knows, he changes are pretty damn small, but perhaps we could get to see some elemental shaman making it into a low tier meta class. It's a lot of small changes anyways.
You could say xD at how they try to buff deathrattle demon hunter tho.
the shaman buffs are so lackluster a xD is the only thing fitting...
unbound should have been made into a 2 mana 2/3 same effect the overload cards are mainly 3 mana.. there isnt even a 4 mana overload card for follow up curve play neither 2 mana drops with overload.. xD
tidel wave is a horrible card, maybe it could fit into a control shaman archetype in the future but sure as hell useless still right now. they should have added in lava shock to the core set instead
and the elemental... feels a little less bad about not getting the effect because of bad draw i guess... who plays 5/6 for 5 tho? still horrible till we get draw and when we do then this might become op but at current moment pointless change
This round of nerfs show how blizzard is clueless about their own game
Shaman is suffering from lack of card draws and lack of win conditions and they buff the stats of 2 random midrange minions( one that will never see play and the other who is bound to a tribe that lacks support) and a healing spell which is definetly not what is holding shaman from viable.
Why would I want to sustain if there's no win condition coming my way? Ok Lilipad is broken in a vacuum now, but still , you can't close a game on the back of a 5/6 card. Shaman is still unplayable like it was for the last months.
I have almost no experience with Shaman, so I might not get those things right, but I was extremely puzzled by those buffs. Wasn't Lilypad Lurker a very powerful card already that was just held back by all the other Shaman cards being too bad? Now to me it looks rather op, but probably still won't see play, because the actual problems (missing draw, overload issues) weren't properly adressed. Pretty much the whole class looks like this to me: Some extremely strong cards, but no viable deck.
I don't play Shaman anyway, but I kinda feel bad for Shaman mains now.
I have almost no experience with Shaman, so I might not get those things right, but I was extremely puzzled by those buffs. Wasn't Lilypad Lurker a very powerful card already that was just held back by all the other Shaman cards being too bad? Now to me it looks rather op, but probably still won't see play, because the actual problems (missing draw, overload issues) weren't properly adressed. Pretty much the whole class looks like this to me: Some extremely strong cards, but no viable deck.
I don't play Shaman anyway, but I kinda feel bad for Shaman mains now.
you should apply to work at blizzard, you would be a valuable assist to them
It's exactly like the buffs to The Lurker Below, Shattered Rumbler and Torrent some time ago. The Shaman class identity is 'all your minions have premium stats with upside and all your spells provide great value for the cost, but you can't draw any of them from your deck'
I'm not sure why they bothered. Overload is still too crippling, elementals are still too slow and don't do enough. Tidal surge is alright but it's not exactly a card to build a deck around. Shaman still dumpster tier.
I wish they removed tidal surge completely and changed torrent to cost 5 mana with the effect that when it cost 5 mana it has life steal and when it cost 1 mana it does not... so basically it worked with groundskeeper..
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if you seen the changes you know
xD
I seen the changes, but I don't know.
Who knows, he changes are pretty damn small, but perhaps we could get to see some elemental shaman making it into a low tier meta class. It's a lot of small changes anyways.
You could say xD at how they try to buff deathrattle demon hunter tho.
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I know, but haven't seen the changes.
Where is the draw? Those cards were not the problem
There is still the mini set coming, there is hope.
I'll take anything that draws or generates multiple cards.
the shaman buffs are so lackluster a xD is the only thing fitting...
unbound should have been made into a 2 mana 2/3 same effect
the overload cards are mainly 3 mana.. there isnt even a 4 mana overload card for follow up curve play neither 2 mana drops with overload.. xD
tidel wave is a horrible card, maybe it could fit into a control shaman archetype in the future but sure as hell useless still right now.
they should have added in lava shock to the core set instead
and the elemental... feels a little less bad about not getting the effect because of bad draw i guess... who plays 5/6 for 5 tho? still horrible till we get draw and when we do then this might become op but at current moment pointless change
This round of nerfs show how blizzard is clueless about their own game
Shaman is suffering from lack of card draws and lack of win conditions and they buff the stats of 2 random midrange minions( one that will never see play and the other who is bound to a tribe that lacks support) and a healing spell which is definetly not what is holding shaman from viable.
Why would I want to sustain if there's no win condition coming my way? Ok Lilipad is broken in a vacuum now, but still , you can't close a game on the back of a 5/6 card. Shaman is still unplayable like it was for the last months.
Imo this won’t change much for Shaman.
I guess it will stay the worst class / bottom tier. At least to the new (mini) expansion.
good thing we got these buffs so we can set a stop to this madness lol xD
I have almost no experience with Shaman, so I might not get those things right, but I was extremely puzzled by those buffs. Wasn't Lilypad Lurker a very powerful card already that was just held back by all the other Shaman cards being too bad? Now to me it looks rather op, but probably still won't see play, because the actual problems (missing draw, overload issues) weren't properly adressed. Pretty much the whole class looks like this to me: Some extremely strong cards, but no viable deck.
I don't play Shaman anyway, but I kinda feel bad for Shaman mains now.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
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Of the three... Tidal Surge is one that interests me the most...I think it will see play in some lists maybe in combination with Mo'arg Artificer.
The change to Lilypad Lurker is a very nice buff...
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It's exactly like the buffs to The Lurker Below, Shattered Rumbler and Torrent some time ago. The Shaman class identity is 'all your minions have premium stats with upside and all your spells provide great value for the cost, but you can't draw any of them from your deck'
I'm not sure why they bothered. Overload is still too crippling, elementals are still too slow and don't do enough. Tidal surge is alright but it's not exactly a card to build a deck around. Shaman still dumpster tier.
I wish they removed tidal surge completely and changed torrent to cost 5 mana with the effect that when it cost 5 mana it has life steal and when it cost 1 mana it does not... so basically it worked with groundskeeper..