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That deck has a 69% win rate Bronze to Gold. It drops to below 60% at Diamond 1-4.

HSReplay is great but a lot of the free stats are next to useless.

 The majority of players are Gold and below, so I don't think it's correct to ignore that segment. Their fun is not less important than your fun, even if they aren't as skilled or as tryhard as you.

 I have no idea if the statement "the majority of players are Gold and below" is true and am not familiar with where one would go to find those stats, but regardless, their fun is equally important but their win rates are not.

If we're having a "nerf because it's not fun" discussion, no stats are necessary.  If we're having a "nerf because of balance" discussion, we don't take stats from areas of the ladder where all of the better players remove themselves quite quickly by mechanics of the ladder.

And if someone is inclined to suggest that good players get stuck in Gold and below because of f2p considerations, Trump has put that argument to rest clearly and convincingly with the most recent f2Legend series.

 Something like 5% of HS players are Diamond or above.  It’s not about Paladin not being fun.  If the deck is oppressive to 95% of the player base in terms of its win rate that’s not good for the game in the long run.

 But almost all players at bronze to gold will have a sub 50% win rate regardless of the deck they are using. I don’t see how a deck can be oppressive when the person controlling it cannot  string together enough wins to get to D5 with the win streak bonuses?

 You seem to have no idea what is going on at lower ranks. Some people have low ranks because they are casual, not because they are bad at the game. If you don't start with the star bonus from hitting high ranks the previous month, it takes a LOT of wins to get to Diamond. No matter what your win rate is, the only way to reach a higher rank than you did the previous month is to play a lot more games, which is not something the average casual player is willing or able to do.

 I’m a ‘casual player’ and I can hit D5 no bother with non meta decks, and I’m not very good at the game and rarely am I fully up to date on the meta.

Any player even half decent at the game can do the same with Secret Paladin. Casual or not any player who cannot gradually make their way to D5 given the star bonuses (which make it easier every month) could probably do with a few tips.

 May I ask how many games you play a day on average?  Because I just want to see what our definitions of "casual" are.

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That deck has a 69% win rate Bronze to Gold. It drops to below 60% at Diamond 1-4.

HSReplay is great but a lot of the free stats are next to useless.

 The majority of players are Gold and below, so I don't think it's correct to ignore that segment. Their fun is not less important than your fun, even if they aren't as skilled or as tryhard as you.

 I have no idea if the statement "the majority of players are Gold and below" is true and am not familiar with where one would go to find those stats, but regardless, their fun is equally important but their win rates are not.

If we're having a "nerf because it's not fun" discussion, no stats are necessary.  If we're having a "nerf because of balance" discussion, we don't take stats from areas of the ladder where all of the better players remove themselves quite quickly by mechanics of the ladder.

And if someone is inclined to suggest that good players get stuck in Gold and below because of f2p considerations, Trump has put that argument to rest clearly and convincingly with the most recent f2Legend series.

 Something like 5% of HS players are Diamond or above.  It’s not about Paladin not being fun.  If the deck is oppressive to 95% of the player base in terms of its win rate that’s not good for the game in the long run.

 But almost all players at bronze to gold will have a sub 50% win rate regardless of the deck they are using. I don’t see how a deck can be oppressive when the person controlling it cannot  string together enough wins to get to D5 with the win streak bonuses?

 You seem to have no idea what is going on at lower ranks. Some people have low ranks because they are casual, not because they are bad at the game. If you don't start with the star bonus from hitting high ranks the previous month, it takes a LOT of wins to get to Diamond. No matter what your win rate is, the only way to reach a higher rank than you did the previous month is to play a lot more games, which is not something the average casual player is willing or able to do.

 I’m a ‘casual player’ and I can hit D5 no bother with non meta decks, and I’m not very good at the game and rarely am I fully up to date on the meta.

Any player even half decent at the game can do the same with Secret Paladin. Casual or not any player who cannot gradually make their way to D5 given the star bonuses (which make it easier every month) could probably do with a few tips.

 May I ask how many games you play a day on average?  Because I just want to see what our definitions of "casual" are.

 

 Anywhere from 0 & up, I don’t really have a set pattern. I haven’t touched the game in about cl3-4 days though.

I think it’s a 9x win bonus that decreases by 1 at every floor, then there’s the win streaks which double that. 

Getting to D5 without stars takes a lot longer, but playing the game each month should see you gradually build them up and progressing up the ranks becomes quicker and quicker.

The point is, anybody who is ‘good’ at the game will not be in the lower ranks long if piloting tier 1 decks. The players you facing in gold to bronze very likely have poor win rates regardless of their deck.