For the last 4 days I’ve been getting mostly spell mages on ladder. 60% or so of my matches were spell mages keeping me around a 50% win rate. I say fine, make a deck that does well again spell mages. Since then I haven’t seen one single mage, let alone spell mage. I’m like 15 matches in. No instead I’m facing stuff I haven’t seen since the expansion launched. Control demon hunter, watchtower shaman, these decks perfectly counter my deck and they didn’t exist in my queue until I played this deck. It’s maddening as hell. When you bring it up people just say “confirmation bias,” or “you’re just paranoid,” or “just bad luck,” but these kinds of shifts don’t statistically make sense without a counter queue of some sort in effect.
Joy oh joy, this thread again. Not seen it a million times, nope. Well, let me just do the thing:
Low sample size Confirmation bias (Edit: Ninja'd by an edit by OP - once again, no, a 15 match streak isn't enough data) No the patent document doesn't confirm your conspiracy theory How would Blizzard even implement this game rigging AI if they can't have Zephrys work half the time? So what, is Blizzard skyrocketing the winrate of decks that counter yours just to screw you? Is every Control Demon Hunter matching into anti-Spell Mage decks? You've put yourself into a pocket meta by tanking your MMR and are now facing people who all lost to Spell Mage a lot and are trying to counter it.
I'm probably forgetting a few, but I've yet to see convincing counter arguments to any of these points, in any of these threads.
For the last 4 days I’ve been getting mostly spell mages on ladder. 60% or so of my matches were spell mages keeping me around a 50% win rate. I say fine, make a deck that does well again spell mages. Since then I haven’t seen one single mage, let alone spell mage. I’m like 15 matches in. No instead I’m facing stuff I haven’t seen since the expansion launched. Control demon hunter, watchtower shaman, these decks perfectly counter my deck and they didn’t exist in my queue until I played this deck. It’s maddening as hell. When you bring it up people just say “confirmation bias,” or “you’re just paranoid,” or “just bad luck,” but these kinds of shifts don’t statistically make sense without a counter queue of some sort in effect.
How would you program that into the game ? There isnt something like checkbox that you play aggro deck so the game can filter all the decks that have control selected to match against you. And why would they alocate resources to that.
I'm not going to say you're wrong, or that you shouldn't feel the way you feel about this... because I've experienced this, too.
But what do you hope to come of this thread? We've had this topic of discussion before, and it never goes anywhere.
Basically, without evidence from Blizzard, or actual stats from lots games (and I mean, big sample sizes) to prove one way or another, this is only ever going to Devolve into a "well, I think this, so I'm right" type of back and forth.
For the people who say you don't have enough evidence of this I bet you if we all pooled our deck trackers of the decks we played we would find the evidence we need.
Let me tell about my stats over this week 40% of my opponents where also Mages.
Next day I change Deck I play the secret pala 50% of matches Mage.
Next day I play a DH deck out of 12 games only 1 Mage.
For the people who say you don't have enough evidence of this I bet you if we all pooled our deck trackers of the decks we played we would find the evidence we need.
Let me tell about my stats over this week 40% of my opponents where also Mages.
Next day I change Deck I play the secret pala 50% of matches Mage.
Next day I play a DH deck out of 12 games only 1 Mage.
You make what you want of this Stats.
So you assume that the number of active spell mage decks is constant at all times? and completely independent of your mmr?
I see just as strong evidence that spell mage fans don't like to play on day 3... (whatever day that is)
Few years back, someone leaked system, how matchmaking worked. He might be wrong but who knows. From my personal experience, I trust it. Nevertheless Blizzard has huge database of matchups -> enough data to calculate win rate of certain cards against each other. Once your personal win rate reaches certain treshold, the system gives you matchups which should be unfavoured (based on card winrates). The same rule applies when you have low win rate but this time you should get favoured matches. But as I’ve said there are just speculations until someone officially confirms this.
For the people who say you don't have enough evidence of this I bet you if we all pooled our deck trackers of the decks we played we would find the evidence we need.
Let me tell about my stats over this week 40% of my opponents where also Mages.
Next day I change Deck I play the secret pala 50% of matches Mage.
Next day I play a DH deck out of 12 games only 1 Mage.
You make what you want of this Stats.
So you assume that the number of active spell mage decks is constant at all times? and completely independent of your mmr?
I see just as strong evidence that spell mage fans don't like to play on day 3... (whatever day that is)
OK I guess DAY 3 everyone stopped playing mage :) for some reason . The MMR was the same as all those games were from Plat 10 to Plat 7 . Moving up and down the ladder.
Also this pattern is Constant I play 10 games with Mage I face mostly pala / Mage I switch deck lets say hunter or Dh and all the mages are Mysteriously gone from ladder and now i face warlocks.. This happens in a span of 2 hours but i guess it's just a conspiracy theory, the Illuminati invaded HS KEKW.
For the last 4 days I’ve been getting mostly spell mages on ladder. 60% or so of my matches were spell mages keeping me around a 50% win rate. I say fine, make a deck that does well again spell mages. Since then I haven’t seen one single mage, let alone spell mage. I’m like 15 matches in. No instead I’m facing stuff I haven’t seen since the expansion launched. Control demon hunter, watchtower shaman, these decks perfectly counter my deck and they didn’t exist in my queue until I played this deck. It’s maddening as hell. When you bring it up people just say “confirmation bias,” or “you’re just paranoid,” or “just bad luck,” but these kinds of shifts don’t statistically make sense without a counter queue of some sort in effect.
Joy oh joy, this thread again. Not seen it a million times, nope. Well, let me just do the thing:
Low sample size
Confirmation bias (Edit: Ninja'd by an edit by OP - once again, no, a 15 match streak isn't enough data)
No the patent document doesn't confirm your conspiracy theory
How would Blizzard even implement this game rigging AI if they can't have Zephrys work half the time?
So what, is Blizzard skyrocketing the winrate of decks that counter yours just to screw you? Is every Control Demon Hunter matching into anti-Spell Mage decks?
You've put yourself into a pocket meta by tanking your MMR and are now facing people who all lost to Spell Mage a lot and are trying to counter it.
I'm probably forgetting a few, but I've yet to see convincing counter arguments to any of these points, in any of these threads.
How would you program that into the game ? There isnt something like checkbox that you play aggro deck so the game can filter all the decks that have control selected to match against you. And why would they alocate resources to that.
I'm not going to say you're wrong, or that you shouldn't feel the way you feel about this... because I've experienced this, too.
But what do you hope to come of this thread? We've had this topic of discussion before, and it never goes anywhere.
Basically, without evidence from Blizzard, or actual stats from lots games (and I mean, big sample sizes) to prove one way or another, this is only ever going to Devolve into a "well, I think this, so I'm right" type of back and forth.
For the people who say you don't have enough evidence of this I bet you if we all pooled our deck trackers of the decks we played we would find the evidence we need.
Let me tell about my stats over this week 40% of my opponents where also Mages.
Next day I change Deck I play the secret pala 50% of matches Mage.
Next day I play a DH deck out of 12 games only 1 Mage.
You make what you want of this Stats.
We're like modern lab rats... always on search for a good endorphin rush.
So you assume that the number of active spell mage decks is constant at all times? and completely independent of your mmr?
I see just as strong evidence that spell mage fans don't like to play on day 3... (whatever day that is)
Few years back, someone leaked system, how matchmaking worked. He might be wrong but who knows. From my personal experience, I trust it. Nevertheless Blizzard has huge database of matchups -> enough data to calculate win rate of certain cards against each other. Once your personal win rate reaches certain treshold, the system gives you matchups which should be unfavoured (based on card winrates). The same rule applies when you have low win rate but this time you should get favoured matches. But as I’ve said there are just speculations until someone officially confirms this.
OK I guess DAY 3 everyone stopped playing mage :) for some reason . The MMR was the same as all those games were from Plat 10 to Plat 7 . Moving up and down the ladder.
Also this pattern is Constant I play 10 games with Mage I face mostly pala / Mage I switch deck lets say hunter or Dh and all the mages are Mysteriously gone from ladder and now i face warlocks.. This happens in a span of 2 hours but i guess it's just a conspiracy theory, the Illuminati invaded HS KEKW.
Don't create conspiracy theory threads. Closing this.
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