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But yeah, I don’t play wild but a quick look at meta snapshots shows us that Dirty Rat is at least played in Tier 2 Warlock decks.
In other words it’s a very, very strong card.
I'm keen to hear how this extremely benign and ponderous consideration of the cards I was discussing is anywhere near "overboard". I mean, if anything is overboard right now, it's been the knee-jerk reactions to what was a pretty regular post.
Also, there you are with that funny "meta breaker" term again. Please do show me where I ever made that claim. It seems like you're the one over-exaggerating at this point, wouldn't you say?
Ok, great! You're agreeing that the mechanic of pulling a card from the opponent's hand is a "very, very strong" mechanic. So you agree.
Well, that was quite the 180-degree shift. But I appreciate the confirmation. Thanks.
Don’t take it seriously. You’re being teased because of your initial post in the thread combined with how combative you’ve been throughout.
Like I’ve said, the best thing would have been to just hold your hands up and admit the OP was a pretty huge overreaction because the combo is completely unplayable.
Again, where was I ever "combative"? You're exaggerating again.
Calmly stating my points in the face of people flinging insults is hardly combative, lol.
If anything, I've been pretty low-key respectful through this whole thread, barring perhaps the occasional sarcastic jab here and there.
And I don't have to accept people's wrong opinions just because a handful of people are yelling them at me. There's literally no reason for me to put my hands up and admit anything, because my feelings about these cards were never an over-reaction - mostly because they were a calm and measured opinion, as I helpfully pointed out a couple of posts back.
Also, you say "Don't take it seriously" - you're saying that none of your argumentative posts were serious? So just trolling?
Except in warlock you can play it with a 1 mana removal to kill the minion you just pulled... 2 minions with brann... so 3 mana for the same combo, or 6 mana for DOUBLE the effect of this combo...
So. Let me get this straight: this is a 4 card, 14 mana combo (still need to pay for the cards that give discounts) that removes one card from your opponents hand permanently. (The second one just needs to have the demon killed to return it, so not permanent), OR, a 5 card, 23 mana, combo to remove 2 cards permanently and a third temporarily.
...
This will not see play.
Edit: Before you say "Dark Portal" or "free admission", this combo already dependa on a youthful brewmaster, which is a 2 mana, non demon, so it very easily mucks up the combo, making the whole thing cost more than it did in the first place.
You understand the difference between 2 mana 1 card and 7 mana 2 cards right?
I think you mean 3-10 mana 2+ cards (since you will need some sort of removal with Dirty Rat for it not to screw you over).
But other than that, yes I understand the difference between a 3 to 10 mana 2-card combo and a 5-7 mana 2-card combo.
I mean, the clue's in the words...
The only real difference (barring a mana or two in cost) is that one combo gives your opponent the possibility of an inherent advantage and requires you to have no idea what to expect during the outcome of your combo, whereas the other gives you a distinct card advantage with no inherent drawback to your play.
I mean, you understand that... right?
No, I said Dirty Rat is a very strong card, *cough* reading comprehension *cough*
Although I do also believe that pulling a card from your opponent is a very strong mechanic, yes, it depends entirely on the card it is attached to. Dirty Rat has the versatility of being a good early play against aggro, or it can be combined with strong removal tools and AOE in the late game - all of which are strong cards on their own (and plenty to choose from). The new 7-mana metabreaker is laughably bad against aggro, and will require a specific card in a brewmaster (or a silence card) for it to work in the late game.
I’m saying don’t take the ‘meta-breaker’ jibes seriously. That was very clear in my post fwiw. You really need to brush up on that reading comprehension of yours!
Am I being condescending enough?
So what makes Dirty Rat "very, very strong" aside from his ability then? (Seeing as how that's not what you were referring to).
Not really. In any case, it's not really my responsibility to try and telepathically pick out what bits of your post are meant to be serious and what aren't when you literally make no differentiation in the post between the two.
This backpedalling here isn't a good look.
1. Your maths are pretty funny, 3-10 mana, yeah or maby 5-28 mana, why not?
2. Dirty rat is a 2/6 taunt, even against aggro yo play it in turn 2, it puls a small enemy minion and you have advantage, the new card has 0 impact when you play it(dont even know the stats, never gonna see that on board)
3. "Gives you card advantage" = waste your turn discarting a minion, opponents BMs you, concede
Given that I quoted your post where you were almost exclusively proclaiming your bewilderment by the use of ‘meta-breaker’ (and what was ultimately your closing question for that post) I just assumed you would have grasped what I meant, especially considering at the time I believed I was speaking to the Duke of Reading Comprehension. If you re-read the thing you should see it’s exceptionally clear what I was referring too.
As for Dirty Rat it’s stats to cost combined with it having taunt nullify it’s effect against aggro to a large degree if just thrown out in the early game. In the late game it costing just 2-mana and it’s versatility in what removal cards can combo with it (or you can trade if you already have a strong board) mean it’s an excellent tool for thinning the opponent’s hand and generating extra value from board wipes. If Dirty Rat cost 10-mana it would be the worst card in the game, regardless of the effect.
Anyway this is getting pointless, I believe I’ve made my point regarding your hypocrisy and my views on the meta-breaker have been fleshed out. If you disagree with my assessment of Dirty Rat then stare why but I’m not going to bore the thread readers anymore with this back and forth.
Look, it’s clear by this point (and your previously insult-driven comments) that you are merely trolling. You dont agree with the facts about the card I’ve pointed out. Fair. You wont change your standpoint and it’s not my responsibility to make that happen.
I certainly have no intention to waste my time repeating common sense and logic to someone who isnt interested in it.
Well done, you trolled me into actually briefly arguing with you for a short moment.
Lol!
I’ll focus on replying to people who actually deserve a response and want to discuss the topic rather than hurl childish insults because they dont have an actual answer! XD
Good day, lad.
Fair enough. I’m pretty confident that the vast majority of people reading this thread will agree with my assessment of both Dirty Rat and The Meta-Breaker so whatever that rambling post was meant to achieve will likely be looked at with the same confusion as it has be me. Hopefully you found some catharsis from it though.
Most people don't get so easily confused, so I wouldn't worry. They'll be fine.
I'll keep an eye out for your next "meta breaker" discussions though, about cards like Armour Breaker (So OP!) and River Crocolisk (It's even a beast! So brokered!)
I think when you read your last few posts sober you’ll find them just as confusing as I do. In any case if the combo takes off in any way I’ll be back to apologise. Farewell.
Bye for now.
No way thats gonna happen