Omg guys you don’t get it. Yes, the new card is better than the old one. We get it. The problem is that the new card is in the CORE SET, so when it rotates, we will no longer have it and be stuck with the old ysera which is even more useless being nerfed. The old version will still be playable in wild, and even wild cards, when nerfed, are given dust refund. The new ysera is NOT THE SAME CARD. It is a new card that will be added to the core set.
If you only play standard, the card will be in your collection for at least 1 year (you don't know if it will be in the core set in 2022 or not) and you get it for free on top of the Ysera you already own (which you can disenchant, if you want to). If it rotates, you don't give a f..k about the card because you only play standard. If it doesn't, you still have it in 2022. Where is the f..king problem? Wild players don't care anyway.
It's not like the old Ysera has been played in standard in the last...what...4 years? So this nerf does what to the old card? Also, there is no reason to assume that the new version leaves the core set in 2022 or that any of the two versions will be relevant in standard then.
To sum this up: You get a free dragon now and can disenchant the other one whenever you want. Soooo....?
Omg guys you don’t get it. Yes, the new card is better than the old one. We get it. The problem is that the new card is in the CORE SET, so when it rotates, we will no longer have it and be stuck with the old ysera which is even more useless being nerfed. The old version will still be playable in wild, and even wild cards, when nerfed, are given dust refund. The new ysera is NOT THE SAME CARD. It is a new card that will be added to the core set.
Well as already stated for the old Ysera, we actually don't know much about what's going to happen. We don't know if the dream cards will be the same for both and if so, weather it will count as a nerf to the old version (full dust back). Unless they already changed the dreams without informing us?
For wild I guess old ysera was semi bad anyway, so the potential nerfs won't have a big impact. A bit sad that the old card will be pretty much a classic only, but I guess that was going to happen at some point anyway.
Seeing a lot of "Old Ysera is just rotating to Wild" which is true, but they confirmed that Old Ysera will still be using the new dream cards, so it most definitely is a nerf. Going forward, the only way to play Ysera in her pure form will be Classic mode.
Omg guys you don’t get it. Yes, the new card is better than the old one. We get it. The problem is that the new card is in the CORE SET, so when it rotates, we will no longer have it and be stuck with the old ysera which is even more useless being nerfed. The old version will still be playable in wild, and even wild cards, when nerfed, are given dust refund. The new ysera is NOT THE SAME CARD. It is a new card that will be added to the core set.
You can't really be "more useless" than current Ysera. Has anyone legitimately and unironically run her in their deck in the past few years?
Yeah yeah I get it, 2 (or 3, idc) dream cards were nerfed, one was buffed, one left the same, you can certainly ask for a refund and I'm behind you on that but I can also see why bli$$ard would be like "refund for what, dreams basically same or better, no dice, bye bye". It's a bit of a bind since no card like Ysera has ever been "nerfed", I think (i.e. a card that gives you something different at the end of each turn)? They'd probably do something or say something specifically if she were played more than in 0.000000001% of decks but as it is, I guess there's not much to be done.
Omg guys you don’t get it. Yes, the new card is better than the old one. We get it. The problem is that the new card is in the CORE SET, so when it rotates, we will no longer have it and be stuck with the old ysera which is even more useless being nerfed. The old version will still be playable in wild, and even wild cards, when nerfed, are given dust refund. The new ysera is NOT THE SAME CARD. It is a new card that will be added to the core set.
You can't really be "more useless" than current Ysera. Has anyone legitimately and unironically run her in their deck in the past few years?
Run in the deck? No.
Get her from another card like lackeys or spells? Hell yes, lot of times.
If the dreams are being changed and, in my opinion at least, the better ones are getting nerfed, why nobody is talking about the proper dust compensation we should get if we own the old Ysera? Am i missing something?
U'll get all the new stuffs as part of the Core Set "for free", and now u complain about compensation? Jeez cant understand ppl...
Totally agree. OP didn't took any time explaining the problem and jumped directly to the solution. Of course we should get dust refunds. Someone message Dean Ayala.
A lot of people in this thread don't seem to understand OP's initial complaint, or even understand what's going on, so allow me to explain.
Firstly, the old Ysera is not being removed from the game, or buffed into the new Ysera, it is being moved to the legacy set. The new Ysera card is a completely new card.
Dream now costs 1, and can only target enemy minions, Nightmare now gives +4/+4 instead of +5/+5, Ysera Awakens now costs 3, and only affects minions, Laughing Sister now costs 2, and Emerald Drake is unchanged.
3 of these 4 changes are very clearly nerfs, making the original Ysera much worse than before, which should be considered a nerf to Ysera.
It does not matter that this Ysera is rotating to Wild, it is still a nerf, and players who own Ysera should be able to disenchant it for full dust value.
People should read this first and then judge the problem. I think people think we're complaining about the new standard Ysera, and not the old one. Or think the nerf only affects the new one.
If the dreams are being changed and, in my opinion at least, the better ones are getting nerfed, why nobody is talking about the proper dust compensation we should get if we own the old Ysera? Am i missing something?
The dreams are not the Ysera card itself, so even without the fact it is going to Wild, the card is not being "nerfed" as it remains the same cost, with the same stats and has the same effect.
You don't get dust refunds for cards that aren't creatable with dust.
Wait removing the RNG so I can be sure im not getting just a useless creature to my hand then ysera go's byebye this is far better anything that adds less RNG is a bonus
Did you miss the point of this post? The dreams got nerfed. Ysera awakens up to 3 mana, dream up to 1 mana, nightmare now just +4/4.
Many children here doesn't know how to read or text understanding. it's just sad that the majority that are embracing this shit changes are most of them and the world is infested with ppl like this, this is why the world is so fked up these days.
A lot of people in this thread don't seem to understand OP's initial complaint, or even understand what's going on, so allow me to explain.
Firstly, the old Ysera is not being removed from the game, or buffed into the new Ysera, it is being moved to the legacy set. The new Ysera card is a completely new card.
Dream now costs 1, and can only target enemy minions, Nightmare now gives +4/+4 instead of +5/+5, Ysera Awakens now costs 3, and only affects minions, Laughing Sister now costs 2, and Emerald Drake is unchanged.
3 of these 4 changes are very clearly nerfs, making the original Ysera much worse than before, which should be considered a nerf to Ysera.
It does not matter that this Ysera is rotating to Wild, it is still a nerf, and players who own Ysera should be able to disenchant it for full dust value.
People should read this first and then judge the problem. I think people think we're complaining about the new standard Ysera, and not the old one. Or think the nerf only affects the new one.
No, they are just stupid. They just want to be contrary to ppl getting stuff, most of them are White Knight Trump supporters.
Blizzard should probably give the dust refund but they won't, since they didn't give the dust refund for Mekgineer Thermaplugg when they nerfed Leper Gnome. That was a "clear" nerf while in Ysera's case Laughing Sister is getting buffed.
If the dreams are being changed and, in my opinion at least, the better ones are getting nerfed, why nobody is talking about the proper dust compensation we should get if we own the old Ysera? Am i missing something?
The dreams are not the Ysera card itself, so even without the fact it is going to Wild, the card is not being "nerfed" as it remains the same cost, with the same stats and has the same effect.
You don't get dust refunds for cards that aren't creatable with dust.
Uhhhh yes you do. Remember when dragonqueen alexstraza was nerfed so that the cards she generated were worse and she couldn’t get herself? Oh yeah we still got a dust refund. Remember when yogg was changed so that when it killed itself the effect stopped? There was nowhere on the text which indicated that. Oh yeah, still got dust refund.
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Omg guys you don’t get it. Yes, the new card is better than the old one. We get it. The problem is that the new card is in the CORE SET, so when it rotates, we will no longer have it and be stuck with the old ysera which is even more useless being nerfed. The old version will still be playable in wild, and even wild cards, when nerfed, are given dust refund. The new ysera is NOT THE SAME CARD. It is a new card that will be added to the core set.
If you only play standard, the card will be in your collection for at least 1 year (you don't know if it will be in the core set in 2022 or not) and you get it for free on top of the Ysera you already own (which you can disenchant, if you want to). If it rotates, you don't give a f..k about the card because you only play standard. If it doesn't, you still have it in 2022. Where is the f..king problem? Wild players don't care anyway.
It's not like the old Ysera has been played in standard in the last...what...4 years? So this nerf does what to the old card? Also, there is no reason to assume that the new version leaves the core set in 2022 or that any of the two versions will be relevant in standard then.
To sum this up: You get a free dragon now and can disenchant the other one whenever you want. Soooo....?
Is it confirmed that the old Ysera in wild will use the new "nerfed" dream cards?
If so give the source please.
In the sense that Spirit Bomb was a nerf to Darkbomb, sure, but why didn't I get full dust refund for my Darkbomb when Boomsday dropped then?
Well as already stated for the old Ysera, we actually don't know much about what's going to happen. We don't know if the dream cards will be the same for both and if so, weather it will count as a nerf to the old version (full dust back). Unless they already changed the dreams without informing us?
For wild I guess old ysera was semi bad anyway, so the potential nerfs won't have a big impact. A bit sad that the old card will be pretty much a classic only, but I guess that was going to happen at some point anyway.
Seeing a lot of "Old Ysera is just rotating to Wild" which is true, but they confirmed that Old Ysera will still be using the new dream cards, so it most definitely is a nerf. Going forward, the only way to play Ysera in her pure form will be Classic mode.
You can't really be "more useless" than current Ysera. Has anyone legitimately and unironically run her in their deck in the past few years?
Yeah yeah I get it, 2 (or 3, idc) dream cards were nerfed, one was buffed, one left the same, you can certainly ask for a refund and I'm behind you on that but I can also see why bli$$ard would be like "refund for what, dreams basically same or better, no dice, bye bye". It's a bit of a bind since no card like Ysera has ever been "nerfed", I think (i.e. a card that gives you something different at the end of each turn)? They'd probably do something or say something specifically if she were played more than in 0.000000001% of decks but as it is, I guess there's not much to be done.
Run in the deck? No.
Get her from another card like lackeys or spells? Hell yes, lot of times.
U'll get all the new stuffs as part of the Core Set "for free", and now u complain about compensation? Jeez cant understand ppl...
Totally agree. OP didn't took any time explaining the problem and jumped directly to the solution. Of course we should get dust refunds. Someone message Dean Ayala.
They re nerfing Old Ysera and not providing compensation => people are angry, I don't see what's so hard to understand
People should read this first and then judge the problem. I think people think we're complaining about the new standard Ysera, and not the old one. Or think the nerf only affects the new one.
The dreams are not the Ysera card itself, so even without the fact it is going to Wild, the card is not being "nerfed" as it remains the same cost, with the same stats and has the same effect.
You don't get dust refunds for cards that aren't creatable with dust.
I am the exception. I have only one deck for each class. All my decks are centered on Drakkari Enchanter. Every deck I own runs Ysera.
Many children here doesn't know how to read or text understanding. it's just sad that the majority that are embracing this shit changes are most of them and the world is infested with ppl like this, this is why the world is so fked up these days.
No, they are just stupid. They just want to be contrary to ppl getting stuff, most of them are White Knight Trump supporters.
Blizzard should probably give the dust refund but they won't, since they didn't give the dust refund for Mekgineer Thermaplugg when they nerfed Leper Gnome. That was a "clear" nerf while in Ysera's case Laughing Sister is getting buffed.
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Uhhhh yes you do. Remember when dragonqueen alexstraza was nerfed so that the cards she generated were worse and she couldn’t get herself? Oh yeah we still got a dust refund. Remember when yogg was changed so that when it killed itself the effect stopped? There was nowhere on the text which indicated that. Oh yeah, still got dust refund.