What I'd like is at least a little dust in each pack, and each progression landmark. I'd have said quest, but that's not really how quests work anymore. Doesn't have to be a lot. Randomly 5-20 dust per pack, and when progression gives you gold, something like a fixed 10-20% of that in Dust value (250g + 25-50 dust). That's not a tonne, but it'd help alleviate the feeling of having to disenchant cards to make other cards.
Getting more dust from DE'ing cards, or having cards cheaper to craft (1200 dust Legendaries, for example), wouldn't be something I'd be mad about, but it still leaves in the FeelsBadMan of having to delete cards to make more. I'd rather see something different. A slight sprinkling of dust through normal gameplay would just feel better.
This. If they add 50 dust to all the gold bag rewards on the track (there are 33) players would get a legendary worth of dust for completing the reward track.
I know that they don't like giving players just resources and rather want to give away actual cards/packs as rewards but giving them small amounts of dust on the reward track would allow players to work better towards a specific card or deck that they want to play. Do you need a specific epic from an older set? In x amount of xp you'll be able to craft it instead of having to buy a bunch of old packs or disenchant half your collection.
What I'd like is at least a little dust in each pack, and each progression landmark. I'd have said quest, but that's not really how quests work anymore. Doesn't have to be a lot. Randomly 5-20 dust per pack, and when progression gives you gold, something like a fixed 10-20% of that in Dust value (250g + 25-50 dust). That's not a tonne, but it'd help alleviate the feeling of having to disenchant cards to make other cards.
Getting more dust from DE'ing cards, or having cards cheaper to craft (1200 dust Legendaries, for example), wouldn't be something I'd be mad about, but it still leaves in the FeelsBadMan of having to delete cards to make more. I'd rather see something different. A slight sprinkling of dust through normal gameplay would just feel better.
This. If they add 50 dust to all the gold bag rewards on the track (there are 33) players would get a legendary worth of dust for completing the reward track.
I know that they don't like giving players just resources and rather want to give away actual cards/packs as rewards but giving them small amounts of dust on the reward track would allow players to work better towards a specific card or deck that they want to play. Do you need a specific epic from an older set? In x amount of xp you'll be able to craft it instead of having to buy a bunch of old packs or disenchant half your collection.
I mean, realistically, 1 legendary per season isn't going to be enough for most players, and folks will DE stuff in their collection. But having that outlet, having a bit more dust tick up just by playing a lot, will make a bigger impact in how a player experiences the game than it'd cost Blizzard in Dust.
A slight sprinkling of dust through normal gameplay would just feel better.
This is literally what happens in these modes. And I gotta say that I absolutely hate 25 dust rewards instead of 25 gold (and I am sure I am not alone). Then again, you probably meant on top of the gold acquisition. I am down for 10 extra dust per pack you open, let's do that! Reminds me of another certain card game I used to play where you got free dust for 1 uncommon with every pack. If they did that in HS, the game would make no more money.
I'm talking a little both/and, but never that much. As CrRsAdAx says in the next post, 50 dust per gold-bundle in the progression is only around enough for one legendary card's worth of dust for the entire season's journey. That's not a game-shattering amount of dust.
As to Gold vs Dust for Arena/Duels, it makes sense to prefer gold, since those aren't dust-based modes. For someone playing standard/wild, having a little more of a dust sprinkle for normal progression is going to feel a bit better. Folks always loved the Fire Festival, when quests gave dust as well as gold for a few weeks.
As to 5-20 dust randomly per pack, well... the average right now is 100 dust per pack, just about. It that was 105-110 per pack, that's not a huge difference to the total dust economy. A lot smaller than going to 300/1200 for Epic/Legendary crafting. A bit more than 5% extra dust out of packs isn't going to crash pack purchases. C'mon, it won't.
But it'd make a player on a small budget feel like they could get a bit further, a bit faster, destroying a couple fewer cards.
I mean if you just play standard, you not only get every year for free a new core set that doesn't (allegedly) contain trash cards like current classic/basic sets, you also get the dust from the entire classic set, which is a LOT of dust if you're a veteran player and kept golden versions. All you need to do to be competitive is (allegedly) craft/unpack a small number of expansion cards since the core set will contain a lot of powerful and, well, core cards, like build arounds and finishers.
If you're a card collector/wild player then yeah dust economy is trash but I don't know any card game that is kind and forgiving to people who try to collect as many cards as possible.
I think the dust return you get on disenchanting your epics & legendaries (which are very rare) is extremely pitiful and could be upped by at least 50%. And they could introduce a mechanic to "reroll" your legendaries. (i.e. pay 150-200 gold or whatever would be fair, and transform the legendary into a random legendary you don't have from the same set.)
Other than that, I think the dust we get is pretty reasonable.
I just want an easier way to make golden cards. Would be nice if we could combine 3 duplicate cards to make a golden one or something like that.
I think they could at least give us the option to "upgrade" our cards to be golden. Rather than having to craft them fresh.
I also kind of agree with the OP here as well. I think the Hearthstone format was in NEED of a change and I'm fine with the direction they chose to remove the Classic and Basic set. HOWEVER. I also think it is quite wrong to not give at least SOME additional dust or at least SOMETHING to the loyal players who used quite a lot of there own resources (time, money, whatever...) to obtain the supposedly PERMANENT STANDARD collection.
So again, I completely understand Blizzard's move to make this change (a needed change IMO), but Blizzard AS USUAL overlooks the players perspective of these changes without proper compensation. For example, every nerf or card change they make (which is fine and needed in most cases) are compensated by giving full dust value which is great. But in most cases, people craft more than just the nerfed card to make that particular deck and all of that dust is now also considered "wasted" by that player now that the deck is nerfed. And they certainly don't get a refund on that. So most players will be OK with how Blizzard is making these changes, but there will be a part of the player base who feels cheated (rightly IMO) by these changes and giving some additional dust (or something) would ease the anger of the player base upset about these changes and would be a happy loyalty reward to the player base that aren't upset be the changes. Just my thoughts.
I mean if you just play standard, you not only get every year for free a new core set that doesn't (allegedly) contain trash cards like current classic/basic sets, you also get the dust from the entire classic set, which is a LOT of dust if you're a veteran player and kept golden versions. All you need to do to be competitive is (allegedly) craft/unpack a small number of expansion cards since the core set will contain a lot of powerful and, well, core cards, like build arounds and finishers.
If you're a card collector/wild player then yeah dust economy is trash but I don't know any card game that is kind and forgiving to people who try to collect as many cards as possible.
Depending on how you define "kind and forgiving", I know at least 3 such card games (well, one of them has too many expansions at this point to catch up) but I won't give any names because a) HS is a much better product overall and b) I have no idea if that is allowed here.
Even as a wild player and veteran, I am pretty happy about the change to the core set because it SHOULD make standard more interesting to me again. The core set being free is a great idea because most players don't craft any classic cards anymore, so they look generous but in reality, they only give out stuff that most people won't buy anyway. It's extremely good for new players, though. And the changes should be fun.
My only issue with the dust economy is that it takes very long to get to a legendary, even if you play a lot and even if you generate tons of value from other modes. I understand that you shouldn't be able to get 1 legendary per day as f2p, but a) the pity timer is too high and b) you don't really get 100 dust per pack and you need to destroy too many cards to get one legendary. Also a reason why people netdeck, which has negative consequences on its own...and so on and so forth... Anyway, 10 extra dust per pack would be very welcome.
Ideally, I would like them to tweak the dust economy to make it better for players. At the very least, I'd them to be plain and just say that they have no intention of changing it without adding all the other bs like the free deck and free core set to make it seem like they've done stuff for us when they really haven't. The only really great thing they've gotten right was duplicate protection, though honestly I think that should have been in place from launch. The new rewards track is also pretty good now that they fixed it after the initial backlash.
ideally, you want cards for practically nothing is what you really mean. I'm sorry to inform you that will not happen to the crafting system. As far as dust is concerned I got a free golden high abbess today because I had two regular copies. Seeing as how I have every card in the game because I have played since closed beta Im sitting on 100K+ dust and a 70% complete golden collection. The new RT system will have me at roughly 160 free packs when the Barren releases plus the 145 from both preorders plus the extra 120 packs from the three bundles I buy. 425 packs opening on release day will give me boatloads of entertainment value and the best meta decks in solid gold.
As much as evryone would like things for free I'm sorry but that has to end at some point. Blizzard could give evrything away and people would still complain.
The new system benefits people who spend money to support the game the most, as it should, but it also has greatly benefitted people who dont spend a dime.
The continued begging for more free stuff is pretty degrading to those who do it and very insulting to those who have to listen to it.
When will anything be enough for some of these people is a question that has only once answer....NEVER.
Good Luck with your time!
The lack of self awareness is real. How can someone type this without realizing lol
Ideally, I would like them to tweak the dust economy to make it better for players. At the very least, I'd them to be plain and just say that they have no intention of changing it without adding all the other bs like the free deck and free core set to make it seem like they've done stuff for us when they really haven't. The only really great thing they've gotten right was duplicate protection, though honestly I think that should have been in place from launch. The new rewards track is also pretty good now that they fixed it after the initial backlash.
ideally, you want cards for practically nothing is what you really mean. I'm sorry to inform you that will not happen to the crafting system. As far as dust is concerned I got a free golden high abbess today because I had two regular copies. Seeing as how I have every card in the game because I have played since closed beta Im sitting on 100K+ dust and a 70% complete golden collection. The new RT system will have me at roughly 160 free packs when the Barren releases plus the 145 from both preorders plus the extra 120 packs from the three bundles I buy. 425 packs opening on release day will give me boatloads of entertainment value and the best meta decks in solid gold.
As much as evryone would like things for free I'm sorry but that has to end at some point. Blizzard could give evrything away and people would still complain.
The new system benefits people who spend money to support the game the most, as it should, but it also has greatly benefitted people who dont spend a dime.
The continued begging for more free stuff is pretty degrading to those who do it and very insulting to those who have to listen to it.
When will anything be enough for some of these people is a question that has only once answer....NEVER.
Good Luck with your time!
Aww, aren't you a proud consoomer. I am sure Blizz will milk you again soon for being such a good boy.
Or you can get off your high horse and act like an adult, either or. We are not complaining because we are poor peasants who can't put money into the game. I have while I still believed in it and would again if the game improved. Helping people keep up with the expansions without spending outrageous amounts of money would be a good step. So was duplicate protection if it works how I think it works (recently came back to the game so not sure). What would really secure me as a paying customer again would be dismantling Standard format. By that I mean ending power creep and making fun and fresh cards which are nonetheless balanced to fit with the totality of HS cards, or close to it. That was the straight and narrow but correct move. Predictably Blizz went for the easy and greedy option of Standard and giving your cards an effective 2y lifecycle. I know my last request is unlikely to happen but might as well speak my mind, if I don't no chance of it becoming a thing.
What we need is at least a doubling of dust value. The way I would do it is to simplify the whole system, which helps new players learn too. Each rarity level should require to disenchant two cards of the same rarity to craft the card of that rarity level you want. So two legends to make a legend, two rares to make a rare, etc. Golden cards always cost double of what a normal card does and also DE for half the cost to make them (this is mostly true already). This should roughly double the value of our dust. You can further play with the odds of gaining the higher rarities from packs to adjust this perfectly.
The final goal should be to have players who spent almost the whole season playing, doing all of their quests and putting in 1-3hrs a day gain virtually all commons and rares. As well as about half of the epics and legends, including a healthy majority of the "good" ones (since those are the ones you will be spending dust crafting). People who pay 20-40$ worth of money per expansion should have the vast majority of all cards period. And whales like you should be able to afford all goldens pretty much by spending 100ish dollars each expansion.
That is fair and reasonable, 20-40$ every few months is pricey but comparable to DLC and many people will be happy to pay it to have access to pretty much all the cards to make whatever deck they want. Whales aren't skinned alive for their shineys though they still pay well. And most importantly F2Ps will be able to craft most (though not all, so incentive exists to pay) meta decks they want and enjoy the game. Stuck up as you are because you help pay the way it is still F2Ps who make the soul of the game. Without them the queues would be terrible, matchups stale and cookie-cutter at all rank levels and our community much poorer. And God damn if we can let as many people enjoy as possible shouldn't we? It is also good for everyone. Better progression means more F2Ps come and more stay, which means more engagement and enjoyment for paying customers. Happy people spend more money. As I said many of us feel betrayed and used as cash cows and we just won't do it, improve the situation improve the cash flow. Blizzard pretty much only cares about money so they are happy too. The only people who would be unhappy are those who want to see poorer players suffer and scrape for leftovers just because they enjoy seeing it which despite being clearly disgusted by your attitude I hope you are not.
But hey that is just how I would help fix up the game, hope others agree too though ;)
The things they teach you in school these days have really affected the way you think. These threads do nothing but reinforce the obvious to me that the people who are constantly voicing their opinion that blizzard sucks and corporations suck and everyone with more than them sucks and somehow they should be given everything. Your idea of "fair and reasonable" is another person's idea of onerous monetization. These posts always include input on what the makers of the game should do to make these individuals happy and how their views are always more "fair".
People, like me, are always attacked because I spend money on the game and I am just some braindead consumer being milked by a corporation. I have no choice in the matter because blizzard holds a gun to my head and is threatening to pull the trigger if I don't keep buying their products.
Why do you engage in a game made by corporations that you hate? Why do you continue to give them money? Why don't you exercise your ultimate power of not engaging in the activity anymore? You want the corporation to change for YOU. Why are you so special? There are millions of people who play this game and spend money on it because whatever they put into it is not valued as much as what they get out of it.
Why do lawyers charge $250-$500 an hour? Do you think this is fair? Why do doctors charge thousands for services, is this fair?
Why don't you say gaming is a right and should be free?
I'm not speaking on a micro level about your views but rather on a macro one.
The reason the game is structured as it is stems from the fact that consumers are willing to spend money on it. The day that enough people stop paying and playing is the day that they will change it.
Blizzard wants 39.99 for a remake of a 20-year-old game that I played for hundreds and hundreds of hours that I think is out of line so guess what...I won't give them $39.99 for it but I know a lot of people will and so do they. Does this mean Blizzard is evil and hates its customers? NO, it doesn't.
You need to ask yourself why you are so mad that other people have more than you and instead realize you have more than a lot of other people. Nobody is saying you can't voice your opinion on what you think but when you attack people like me for voicing mine you just come across as another Marxist who wants to bring everyone down to their "fair and equitable" standard. You cant have what I have so let's take mine away and make it fairer for people like you.
The way you think is what makes you mad and the people who have taught you to think this way are pure evil. I actually feel sorry for you. Instead of wasting your time trying to bring everyone down to your subjective idea of what is "fair and equitable" you should think about how you can bring yourself up to my level and beyond.
When you spend all your time trying to get even with someone you will never get ahead of them.
When you can grasp the idea of the above statement you will be much happier in life and I bet you will make others around you much happier as well.
Listen Patriot1776, this is the last I'll say on this.
I, personally, didn't mean to attack you, though I do dislike the condescending tone with which you address others as it adds nothing to your arguments. How you spend your money is completely up to you. I voice my grievances with the game not because I hate it, but because I love it. I want to see it be the best it can be, and I believe that every suggestion I make would help it meet that end. Ultimately, these are exactly just that: suggestions. I may be wrong, I may be right, honestly I don't know for sure. I just hope that Blizzard takes suggestions and thoughts from players into consideration for the betterment of the game.
Obviously we disagree on how Blizzard should do business, but that does not excuse rude behavior, from any party.
WTF are you even on about? No one wants to take anything from you, in fact my proposal gives to you as much as anyone else. You would be able to get all the goodies you have now for less money. So why complain? Well the only logical reason I can think of is that you emphatically don't like the idea of other players catching up, even partly, and enjoying the game. You like your paid edge and fuck other players. That is exactly it, why else would you care? You would be happy that you would need to spend a lot less money for the same bang and happy other players get more. But no, you just want to lord over the peasants. You are an awful person.
And trying to imply I am a communist? Ridiculous, you don't know my politics. Though to give you a hint if the consoomer meme didn't. I am far from a typical lefty. Just because I don't want to be taken for a ride doesn't mean I believe everything should be free. I outlined what I think and it surely isn't "you get everything for free." In fact it requires playing almost religiously just to get half a collection per expansion. There is still an incentive to spend, just less. This game costs way more than a AAA title, and did so for most paying players before it left Classic stage. It costs more than CK2 with all DLC which is something like 300$ and widely lampooned as excessive and yet many players spent as much before GvG was over and how many expansions did we have after that? This is not normal or okay. We should call this shit out rather than accept it like chumps.
And why do we call it out? Not because of any revolutionary zeal I can say that much. We think the game has potential and we enjoy it. Or used to at least. Nor are we saying just make everything free as a charity case. In fact I am sure that adopting my reforms would lead to more money as more people would play and be willing to pay. In addition to making things more fun and available for more people. You meanwhile seemingly just want to flex how you can afford hundreds of packs. It is not even a question of money, I am sure most of us here payed at some point, myself included. It is about not being anybody's fool.
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This. If they add 50 dust to all the gold bag rewards on the track (there are 33) players would get a legendary worth of dust for completing the reward track.
I know that they don't like giving players just resources and rather want to give away actual cards/packs as rewards but giving them small amounts of dust on the reward track would allow players to work better towards a specific card or deck that they want to play. Do you need a specific epic from an older set? In x amount of xp you'll be able to craft it instead of having to buy a bunch of old packs or disenchant half your collection.
I mean, realistically, 1 legendary per season isn't going to be enough for most players, and folks will DE stuff in their collection. But having that outlet, having a bit more dust tick up just by playing a lot, will make a bigger impact in how a player experiences the game than it'd cost Blizzard in Dust.
I'm talking a little both/and, but never that much. As CrRsAdAx says in the next post, 50 dust per gold-bundle in the progression is only around enough for one legendary card's worth of dust for the entire season's journey. That's not a game-shattering amount of dust.
As to Gold vs Dust for Arena/Duels, it makes sense to prefer gold, since those aren't dust-based modes. For someone playing standard/wild, having a little more of a dust sprinkle for normal progression is going to feel a bit better. Folks always loved the Fire Festival, when quests gave dust as well as gold for a few weeks.
As to 5-20 dust randomly per pack, well... the average right now is 100 dust per pack, just about. It that was 105-110 per pack, that's not a huge difference to the total dust economy. A lot smaller than going to 300/1200 for Epic/Legendary crafting. A bit more than 5% extra dust out of packs isn't going to crash pack purchases. C'mon, it won't.
But it'd make a player on a small budget feel like they could get a bit further, a bit faster, destroying a couple fewer cards.
I mean if you just play standard, you not only get every year for free a new core set that doesn't (allegedly) contain trash cards like current classic/basic sets, you also get the dust from the entire classic set, which is a LOT of dust if you're a veteran player and kept golden versions. All you need to do to be competitive is (allegedly) craft/unpack a small number of expansion cards since the core set will contain a lot of powerful and, well, core cards, like build arounds and finishers.
If you're a card collector/wild player then yeah dust economy is trash but I don't know any card game that is kind and forgiving to people who try to collect as many cards as possible.
I think the dust return you get on disenchanting your epics & legendaries (which are very rare) is extremely pitiful and could be upped by at least 50%. And they could introduce a mechanic to "reroll" your legendaries. (i.e. pay 150-200 gold or whatever would be fair, and transform the legendary into a random legendary you don't have from the same set.)
Other than that, I think the dust we get is pretty reasonable.
I think they could at least give us the option to "upgrade" our cards to be golden. Rather than having to craft them fresh.
I also kind of agree with the OP here as well. I think the Hearthstone format was in NEED of a change and I'm fine with the direction they chose to remove the Classic and Basic set. HOWEVER. I also think it is quite wrong to not give at least SOME additional dust or at least SOMETHING to the loyal players who used quite a lot of there own resources (time, money, whatever...) to obtain the supposedly PERMANENT STANDARD collection.
So again, I completely understand Blizzard's move to make this change (a needed change IMO), but Blizzard AS USUAL overlooks the players perspective of these changes without proper compensation. For example, every nerf or card change they make (which is fine and needed in most cases) are compensated by giving full dust value which is great. But in most cases, people craft more than just the nerfed card to make that particular deck and all of that dust is now also considered "wasted" by that player now that the deck is nerfed. And they certainly don't get a refund on that. So most players will be OK with how Blizzard is making these changes, but there will be a part of the player base who feels cheated (rightly IMO) by these changes and giving some additional dust (or something) would ease the anger of the player base upset about these changes and would be a happy loyalty reward to the player base that aren't upset be the changes. Just my thoughts.
Depending on how you define "kind and forgiving", I know at least 3 such card games (well, one of them has too many expansions at this point to catch up) but I won't give any names because a) HS is a much better product overall and b) I have no idea if that is allowed here.
Even as a wild player and veteran, I am pretty happy about the change to the core set because it SHOULD make standard more interesting to me again. The core set being free is a great idea because most players don't craft any classic cards anymore, so they look generous but in reality, they only give out stuff that most people won't buy anyway. It's extremely good for new players, though. And the changes should be fun.
My only issue with the dust economy is that it takes very long to get to a legendary, even if you play a lot and even if you generate tons of value from other modes. I understand that you shouldn't be able to get 1 legendary per day as f2p, but a) the pity timer is too high and b) you don't really get 100 dust per pack and you need to destroy too many cards to get one legendary. Also a reason why people netdeck, which has negative consequences on its own...and so on and so forth... Anyway, 10 extra dust per pack would be very welcome.
What do you want changed?
Ideally, I would like them to tweak the dust economy to make it better for players. At the very least, I'd them to be plain and just say that they have no intention of changing it without adding all the other bs like the free deck and free core set to make it seem like they've done stuff for us when they really haven't. The only really great thing they've gotten right was duplicate protection, though honestly I think that should have been in place from launch. The new rewards track is also pretty good now that they fixed it after the initial backlash.
ideally, you want cards for practically nothing is what you really mean. I'm sorry to inform you that will not happen to the crafting system. As far as dust is concerned I got a free golden high abbess today because I had two regular copies. Seeing as how I have every card in the game because I have played since closed beta Im sitting on 100K+ dust and a 70% complete golden collection. The new RT system will have me at roughly 160 free packs when the Barren releases plus the 145 from both preorders plus the extra 120 packs from the three bundles I buy. 425 packs opening on release day will give me boatloads of entertainment value and the best meta decks in solid gold.
As much as evryone would like things for free I'm sorry but that has to end at some point. Blizzard could give evrything away and people would still complain.
The new system benefits people who spend money to support the game the most, as it should, but it also has greatly benefitted people who dont spend a dime.
The continued begging for more free stuff is pretty degrading to those who do it and very insulting to those who have to listen to it.
When will anything be enough for some of these people is a question that has only once answer....NEVER.
Good Luck with your time!
The lack of self awareness is real. How can someone type this without realizing lol
The things they teach you in school these days have really affected the way you think. These threads do nothing but reinforce the obvious to me that the people who are constantly voicing their opinion that blizzard sucks and corporations suck and everyone with more than them sucks and somehow they should be given everything. Your idea of "fair and reasonable" is another person's idea of onerous monetization. These posts always include input on what the makers of the game should do to make these individuals happy and how their views are always more "fair".
People, like me, are always attacked because I spend money on the game and I am just some braindead consumer being milked by a corporation. I have no choice in the matter because blizzard holds a gun to my head and is threatening to pull the trigger if I don't keep buying their products.
Why do you engage in a game made by corporations that you hate? Why do you continue to give them money? Why don't you exercise your ultimate power of not engaging in the activity anymore? You want the corporation to change for YOU. Why are you so special? There are millions of people who play this game and spend money on it because whatever they put into it is not valued as much as what they get out of it.
Why do lawyers charge $250-$500 an hour? Do you think this is fair? Why do doctors charge thousands for services, is this fair?
Why don't you say gaming is a right and should be free?
I'm not speaking on a micro level about your views but rather on a macro one.
The reason the game is structured as it is stems from the fact that consumers are willing to spend money on it. The day that enough people stop paying and playing is the day that they will change it.
Blizzard wants 39.99 for a remake of a 20-year-old game that I played for hundreds and hundreds of hours that I think is out of line so guess what...I won't give them $39.99 for it but I know a lot of people will and so do they. Does this mean Blizzard is evil and hates its customers? NO, it doesn't.
You need to ask yourself why you are so mad that other people have more than you and instead realize you have more than a lot of other people. Nobody is saying you can't voice your opinion on what you think but when you attack people like me for voicing mine you just come across as another Marxist who wants to bring everyone down to their "fair and equitable" standard. You cant have what I have so let's take mine away and make it fairer for people like you.
The way you think is what makes you mad and the people who have taught you to think this way are pure evil. I actually feel sorry for you. Instead of wasting your time trying to bring everyone down to your subjective idea of what is "fair and equitable" you should think about how you can bring yourself up to my level and beyond.
When you spend all your time trying to get even with someone you will never get ahead of them.
When you can grasp the idea of the above statement you will be much happier in life and I bet you will make others around you much happier as well.
Listen Patriot1776, this is the last I'll say on this.
I, personally, didn't mean to attack you, though I do dislike the condescending tone with which you address others as it adds nothing to your arguments. How you spend your money is completely up to you. I voice my grievances with the game not because I hate it, but because I love it. I want to see it be the best it can be, and I believe that every suggestion I make would help it meet that end. Ultimately, these are exactly just that: suggestions. I may be wrong, I may be right, honestly I don't know for sure. I just hope that Blizzard takes suggestions and thoughts from players into consideration for the betterment of the game.
Obviously we disagree on how Blizzard should do business, but that does not excuse rude behavior, from any party.
I wish you the best.
dude I have around 150k dust I do not need more dust what the hell,
I need more gold to access heroic duels, arena and shit, no more dust I do not know what to do with my dust...
WTF are you even on about? No one wants to take anything from you, in fact my proposal gives to you as much as anyone else. You would be able to get all the goodies you have now for less money. So why complain? Well the only logical reason I can think of is that you emphatically don't like the idea of other players catching up, even partly, and enjoying the game. You like your paid edge and fuck other players. That is exactly it, why else would you care? You would be happy that you would need to spend a lot less money for the same bang and happy other players get more. But no, you just want to lord over the peasants. You are an awful person.
And trying to imply I am a communist? Ridiculous, you don't know my politics. Though to give you a hint if the consoomer meme didn't. I am far from a typical lefty. Just because I don't want to be taken for a ride doesn't mean I believe everything should be free. I outlined what I think and it surely isn't "you get everything for free." In fact it requires playing almost religiously just to get half a collection per expansion. There is still an incentive to spend, just less. This game costs way more than a AAA title, and did so for most paying players before it left Classic stage. It costs more than CK2 with all DLC which is something like 300$ and widely lampooned as excessive and yet many players spent as much before GvG was over and how many expansions did we have after that? This is not normal or okay. We should call this shit out rather than accept it like chumps.
And why do we call it out? Not because of any revolutionary zeal I can say that much. We think the game has potential and we enjoy it. Or used to at least. Nor are we saying just make everything free as a charity case. In fact I am sure that adopting my reforms would lead to more money as more people would play and be willing to pay. In addition to making things more fun and available for more people. You meanwhile seemingly just want to flex how you can afford hundreds of packs. It is not even a question of money, I am sure most of us here payed at some point, myself included. It is about not being anybody's fool.