I really don't understand why people always complain about the costs of cosmetics. If you don't like the skins, don't buy it. It's easy as that. When you look at the cost of CoD Warzone, there is one Operator Skin, mostly 2 Weapon Blueprints and 3-4 other cosmetics for 20+$. Same goes for Fortnite and enough other games. Theses games are free and need the shop incomes to provide further support for the game. I play Warzone regularly and never bought something from the shop, because i thinks it's way to expensive. But never ever would i complain about it. It's only cosmetics....
If they need the income they can offer content that we actually want for that price.
To be fair - you don't speak for the community, and no one else does . . .
In any event, there are 24 million of us, and it's a pretty heterogeneous bunch. Presumably, a very small portion of those people care about cosmetics, and an even smaller portion enjoy complaining about cosmetics on casual gaming fan-sites. Presumably, you don't belong to first group, but do belong to the second. There is a third group - folks who don't mind spending money on the game in order to purchase some cosmetics. Lots of folks in the second group like to complain about them - it's a free country, and they ought to complain if they feel like it. But you'll also have to concede - that doesn't mean their complaints have any merit.
GLHF.
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Anyways everyone with brain power knows the skins are just barely decent overpriced generic garbage that they disrespect the hearthstone community with. They don't want to give us actual good cheap hero skins because tHeN pEoPlE wOuLnT sPeNd tHaT sWeEt 80 dOlLars oN tHe mEgAbUnDlE
i bought em all.. only $25 bux.. supports the game.. i dont play anything else
doesnt affect the gameplay if u dont buy it
That’s the micro transaction mentality right there. It’s “only” 25 bux without really putting this in context, i.e what could 25 bux get you instead of 5 lines of code for some cosmetic hero skins.
Im not having a go at anyone for buying it, I’m just surprised about how people ( including myself sometimes) spend loads of money on this game because “oh well I’m not playing anything else”
I agree that the price is too high. It's $34 dollars here in Australia. I'd probably pay that it it included card packs, but for just cosmetic skins that's just too much for me to justify.
To use the TC's examples, Star Wars the Fallen Order is currently $36 on the PlayStation Store, or Doom Eternal is $33 on the PlayStation store. There represents a chasm of difference in value.
Note that this isn't a 'Hearthstone is too expensive' rant, especially since Blizzard has done a lot to improve the value of the game for those not wanting to excessively spend, even before considering that they are making the core cards free at next expansion. However I do think the price of this cosmetic bundle in particular is overpriced.
I agree that the price is too high. It's $34 dollars here in Australia. I'd probably pay that it it included card packs, but for just cosmetic skins that's just too much for me to justify.
To use the TC's examples, Star Wars the Fallen Order is currently $36 on the PlayStation Store, or Doom Eternal is $33 on the PlayStation store. There represents a chasm of difference in value.
Note that this isn't a 'Hearthstone is too expensive' rant, especially since Blizzard has done a lot to improve the value of the game for those not wanting to excessively spend, even before considering that they are making the core cards free at next expansion. However I do think the price of this cosmetic bundle in particular is overpriced.
There would be no reason to play if the core cards weren't free. Anyone who spent dust on classic legendaries before the core set announcement is screwed
I agree that the price is too high. It's $34 dollars here in Australia. I'd probably pay that it it included card packs, but for just cosmetic skins that's just too much for me to justify.
To use the TC's examples, Star Wars the Fallen Order is currently $36 on the PlayStation Store, or Doom Eternal is $33 on the PlayStation store. There represents a chasm of difference in value.
Note that this isn't a 'Hearthstone is too expensive' rant, especially since Blizzard has done a lot to improve the value of the game for those not wanting to excessively spend, even before considering that they are making the core cards free at next expansion. However I do think the price of this cosmetic bundle in particular is overpriced.
The price of that bundle is subsidizing major content patches 3x a year, minor content patches 3x a year, and upkeep patches in between those, as well as server costs and customer service pay, for millions of F2P players.
It's not really all that overpriced. Only about 25% of players spend at all, and even less actually spend a significant amount.
So whats the point of this thread? You obviously find them too expensive, so be happy with your selection of games and move on? Its not like anyone is forcing them on you.
I agree that the price is too high. It's $34 dollars here in Australia. I'd probably pay that it it included card packs, but for just cosmetic skins that's just too much for me to justify.
To use the TC's examples, Star Wars the Fallen Order is currently $36 on the PlayStation Store, or Doom Eternal is $33 on the PlayStation store. There represents a chasm of difference in value.
Note that this isn't a 'Hearthstone is too expensive' rant, especially since Blizzard has done a lot to improve the value of the game for those not wanting to excessively spend, even before considering that they are making the core cards free at next expansion. However I do think the price of this cosmetic bundle in particular is overpriced.
The price of that bundle is subsidizing major content patches 3x a year, minor content patches 3x a year, and upkeep patches in between those, as well as server costs and customer service pay, for millions of F2P players.
It's not really all that overpriced. Only about 25% of players spend at all, and even less actually spend a significant amount.
You are way overestimating the expenses and underestimating the costs for Hearthstone.
Team 5 has approximately 70 employees who work on Hearthstone, which is small by most corporate standards. Sure they put out expansions, but those expansions would be extremely lucrative given that a sizeable amount of the players would buy bundles for each expansion. At a cost that is comparable to most mainstream games that have a considerably larger development teams working over considerably longer development timelines.
So, these skins aren't 'subsidizing' expansions at all. The bundles they sell during expansions (not even including the additional card packs people purchase) pay for the expansions alone, with a considerable amount of additional revenue on top of that.
And that's before you consider all of the other revenue streams. The numerous number of mid expansions bundles they sell. The Battle Pass system. The Tavern Pass. The optional card backs added to the store. The class bundles added with the solo adventures. All of these would be extremely profitable given that the development costs for them would be very low.
Let me illustrate in one final point.
Blizzard announced that they had 23.5 million active players in 2020. (You can see these stats in their Year of the Phoenix Review article). If just 1% of that population purchased these cosmetic skins then that's almost 6 million dollars USD in revenue for a cosmetic option that essentially would have been mostly completed by a graphics designer and a few voice actors.
You can have an opinion that the bundles are overpriced or not, however the thought that they need them in order to afford the patching and running of the game is completely misguided.
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Anyways everyone with brain power knows the skins are just barely decent overpriced generic garbage that they disrespect the hearthstone community with. They don't want to give us actual good cheap hero skins because tHeN pEoPlE wOuLnT sPeNd tHaT sWeEt 80 dOlLars oN tHe mEgA bUnDlE
i bought em all.. only $25 bux.. supports the game.. i dont play anything else
doesnt affect the gameplay if u dont buy it
That’s the micro transaction mentality right there. It’s “only” 25 bux without really putting this in context, i.e what could 25 bux get you instead of 5 lines of code for some cosmetic hero skins.
Im not having a go at anyone for buying it, I’m just surprised about how people ( including myself sometimes) spend loads of money on this game because “oh well I’m not playing anything else”
I agree that the price is too high. It's $34 dollars here in Australia. I'd probably pay that it it included card packs, but for just cosmetic skins that's just too much for me to justify.
To use the TC's examples, Star Wars the Fallen Order is currently $36 on the PlayStation Store, or Doom Eternal is $33 on the PlayStation store. There represents a chasm of difference in value.
Note that this isn't a 'Hearthstone is too expensive' rant, especially since Blizzard has done a lot to improve the value of the game for those not wanting to excessively spend, even before considering that they are making the core cards free at next expansion. However I do think the price of this cosmetic bundle in particular is overpriced.
There would be no reason to play if the core cards weren't free. Anyone who spent dust on classic legendaries before the core set announcement is screwed
The price of that bundle is subsidizing major content patches 3x a year, minor content patches 3x a year, and upkeep patches in between those, as well as server costs and customer service pay, for millions of F2P players.
It's not really all that overpriced. Only about 25% of players spend at all, and even less actually spend a significant amount.
So whats the point of this thread? You obviously find them too expensive, so be happy with your selection of games and move on? Its not like anyone is forcing them on you.
You are way overestimating the expenses and underestimating the costs for Hearthstone.
Team 5 has approximately 70 employees who work on Hearthstone, which is small by most corporate standards. Sure they put out expansions, but those expansions would be extremely lucrative given that a sizeable amount of the players would buy bundles for each expansion. At a cost that is comparable to most mainstream games that have a considerably larger development teams working over considerably longer development timelines.
So, these skins aren't 'subsidizing' expansions at all. The bundles they sell during expansions (not even including the additional card packs people purchase) pay for the expansions alone, with a considerable amount of additional revenue on top of that.
And that's before you consider all of the other revenue streams. The numerous number of mid expansions bundles they sell. The Battle Pass system. The Tavern Pass. The optional card backs added to the store. The class bundles added with the solo adventures. All of these would be extremely profitable given that the development costs for them would be very low.
Let me illustrate in one final point.
Blizzard announced that they had 23.5 million active players in 2020. (You can see these stats in their Year of the Phoenix Review article). If just 1% of that population purchased these cosmetic skins then that's almost 6 million dollars USD in revenue for a cosmetic option that essentially would have been mostly completed by a graphics designer and a few voice actors.
You can have an opinion that the bundles are overpriced or not, however the thought that they need them in order to afford the patching and running of the game is completely misguided.