There were times I thought the game was pretty bad. Mid-range Shaman. Even Pally. Even Pirate Warrior.
But, this is the most cancer I've ever seen. I'm playing in Bronze. Day 11. And all I'm seeing is ramp Pally and Token Druid. And it is POINTLESS for me to play this fucking game. I can't do shit vs. those decks.
And Token Druid will be here.... 2 more years? Fuck me. I'm out for a while. Maybe I'll be back in 2 years and see if the cancer is less.
Just so we're clear, even assuming the gripes about the meta are accurate, you're saying a time when two decks are overpowering the field is worse than two separate instances where a single deck had zero competition from the rest of the options to play?
Agreed . . . ridiculous.
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No, because I could find ways to beat even pally and pirate warrior. Shamanstone was another story. That was also supreme BS. But, I can't do crap vs. the current decks.
I might try control warrior but I don't have risky skipper and I'm not paying 20$ to get it.
Well i have stucked at gold 3 - 1, cannot pass through gold 1 playing as Highlander Hunter, thought it will be easy, but nope :D token druid fucks me up almost every time even more than pally, im struggling even when i got perfect roll, i think, only way to play ladder in standard right now is to build any aggro meta deck and play face like no brain, guess i'll switch to face hunter. The most painful thing is that my deck costs 12k dust, and im losing to low budget decks. I think only thing that keeps me still playing and coming back to HS now is Battlegrounds.
I continue to advocate the use of Control Shaman, which has the endearing quality of destroying token druid with ease and having a reasonable chance against ramp paladin's high roll with Alura. Obviously if you're against paladin, there are board clears you MUST mulligan for, but my win rates against those two decks are 58% (ramp) and 72% (token).
And before I get the comments about Tickatus, if you really can't handle the 1 in 50-70 games with a smile, run Elysiana and C'thun, and you'll win the fatigue game despite losing ten cards.
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I was watching MrYagut like 3 times the game ended in a pre turn 4 concede.
I just died turn 3 to aggro Druid.
So many toxic decks. The Aggro decks kill on turn 3/4. There are OTK decks again. There is Rez Priest again.
It's like a combination of all the worst metas rolled in one pile of super garbage. Very hard to justify playing this game right now, and it's always kinda hard.
@jazzfan27 what deck are you running? If you post your decklist we could review it and see where it’s going wrong. You should be able to get out of bronze with any fairly optimized deck. This is coming from someone who’s playing complete trash homebrew in Platinum right now.
Who's right, who's wrong? Does it matter? Nobody knows!
You play the game and sometimes the game plays you. If one day there is not one single person complaining about the state of the game, maybe there is hope for world peace, after all.
But alas. There will always be cheese. And there will always be aggro. And nobody loves both.
@jazzfan27 what deck are you running? If you post your decklist we could review it and see where it’s going wrong. You should be able to get out of bronze with any fairly optimized deck. This is coming from someone who’s playing complete trash homebrew in Platinum right now.
Ill try to post from memory. It is a homebrew deck, so dont expect optimised.
2x 1 mana heal 3 discover
2x insight?
2x discover and reduce cards cost by 1
2x dragon breath
2x pyromancer
2x penance
2x 5mana dragon 55 that draws 1
2x mech with rush and draw a minion
2x blood guy that summons a 5/5
1 silence and destroy
1 cthun
1 nzoth
2x give 2/3 and lifesteal
1 holy nova
1 soul mirror
2x ooze
I cant eecall the others. Maybe galakrond. Maybe those 3/5 demons that have rush and cant appear for 2 tuens
There were times I thought the game was pretty bad. Mid-range Shaman. Even Pally. Even Pirate Warrior.
But, this is the most cancer I've ever seen. I'm playing in Bronze. Day 11. And all I'm seeing is ramp Pally and Token Druid. And it is POINTLESS for me to play this fucking game. I can't do shit vs. those decks.
And Token Druid will be here.... 2 more years? Fuck me. I'm out for a while. Maybe I'll be back in 2 years and see if the cancer is less.
Ridiculous!
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Control Warrior is decent against both. Atleast you can counter play a lot
Just so we're clear, even assuming the gripes about the meta are accurate, you're saying a time when two decks are overpowering the field is worse than two separate instances where a single deck had zero competition from the rest of the options to play?
Agreed . . . ridiculous.
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No, because I could find ways to beat even pally and pirate warrior. Shamanstone was another story. That was also supreme BS. But, I can't do crap vs. the current decks.
I might try control warrior but I don't have risky skipper and I'm not paying 20$ to get it.
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So many online resources nowadays, it's no suprise almost everyone is playing the latest and greatest netdecks.
Ramp paladin isn’t even that strong and there are loads of ways to counter token druid.
How can you say cheese paladin isn't that good??
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Ridiculous is crying for a deck that mulligans for 1 card (hoping to have the coin)
A typical cryboy topic.
This thread is the worst I've ever seen right now.
(I will write it again after new meta with first 2021 expansion will settle down, probably.)
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Well i have stucked at gold 3 - 1, cannot pass through gold 1 playing as Highlander Hunter, thought it will be easy, but nope :D token druid fucks me up almost every time even more than pally, im struggling even when i got perfect roll, i think, only way to play ladder in standard right now is to build any aggro meta deck and play face like no brain, guess i'll switch to face hunter. The most painful thing is that my deck costs 12k dust, and im losing to low budget decks. I think only thing that keeps me still playing and coming back to HS now is Battlegrounds.
There is always someone complaining about the game being in its worst state since 2014! :D
I continue to advocate the use of Control Shaman, which has the endearing quality of destroying token druid with ease and having a reasonable chance against ramp paladin's high roll with Alura. Obviously if you're against paladin, there are board clears you MUST mulligan for, but my win rates against those two decks are 58% (ramp) and 72% (token).
And before I get the comments about Tickatus, if you really can't handle the 1 in 50-70 games with a smile, run Elysiana and C'thun, and you'll win the fatigue game despite losing ten cards.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
The more you say that, the more you get fucked
Yah! Wow!
I was watching MrYagut like 3 times the game ended in a pre turn 4 concede.
I just died turn 3 to aggro Druid.
So many toxic decks. The Aggro decks kill on turn 3/4. There are OTK decks again. There is Rez Priest again.
It's like a combination of all the worst metas rolled in one pile of super garbage. Very hard to justify playing this game right now, and it's always kinda hard.
you need to switch deck mane, if you dont got the dust just buy some packs LOL
@jazzfan27 what deck are you running? If you post your decklist we could review it and see where it’s going wrong. You should be able to get out of bronze with any fairly optimized deck. This is coming from someone who’s playing complete trash homebrew in Platinum right now.
Who's right, who's wrong? Does it matter? Nobody knows!
You play the game and sometimes the game plays you. If one day there is not one single person complaining about the state of the game, maybe there is hope for world peace, after all.
But alas. There will always be cheese. And there will always be aggro. And nobody loves both.
Except satan.
That guy just wants to watch Azeroth burn.
Ill try to post from memory. It is a homebrew deck, so dont expect optimised.
2x 1 mana heal 3 discover
2x insight?
2x discover and reduce cards cost by 1
2x dragon breath
2x pyromancer
2x penance
2x 5mana dragon 55 that draws 1
2x mech with rush and draw a minion
2x blood guy that summons a 5/5
1 silence and destroy
1 cthun
1 nzoth
2x give 2/3 and lifesteal
1 holy nova
1 soul mirror
2x ooze
I cant eecall the others. Maybe galakrond. Maybe those 3/5 demons that have rush and cant appear for 2 tuens
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You've been around for a while, and I generally enjoy your posts and knowledge. This thread and discussion is unbecoming and uncharacteristic of you.