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Because I saved over 70 packs for the darkmoon races mini-set, I opened almost every single card in there, and now I wonder if it is worth buying the entire mini-set for dust. Because you get 4 legendaries, 2 epics, 28 rares and 32 commons, disenchanting them nets you 2520 dust, which is enough to craft 2 epics and a legendary. But is it worth it?
On average, one pack nets you 100 dust, so if you buy 20 packs for that 2000 gold, you would be at an average of 2000 dust, 520 below normal. So it sounds good. But should I just wait instead and save that dust for the following expansion instead, in the hopes of actually opening a useful new legendary? What do you guys think?
Id you need no card from it at all and would just get dust, then it's much better to buy 20 packs of the next set
IMO yes spend the gold or the money .the mini set is mixed in with expansion there is no chance u will get what u need from packs.
The chance of getting 2000 dust from 20 packs is pretty low. You pretty much have to get 2 legendaries (or golden epics), just to "average" 100 dust in such small amounts of packs. Or you get a golden legendary and strike over 100. Wanna bet on that?
Outside of extreme luck, the Mini-Set will get you more dust than you'd normally get from 20 packs. Also, there's no variance involved, and also, if you ever open more Darkmoon Packs anyway (like by the end of the month from ladder rewards), I'd be mad to get a mini-set legendary. Plus, come rotation time, the mini-set legendaries might (unlikely, but regardless) turn out to be better than they seem now.
Unless you absolutely need the 2000 gold for the next expansion (and you probably won't), just buy the mini-set. If you want to min-max dust, it's a very good deal.
The average value of a pack is only 100 dust if you own all the cards of a set. Unless you plan on opening enough packs to own every desirable card of the next set, the packs will be worth more than that.
We get, on average, one Legendary card per 20 packs. If it's not a duplicate then it is worth 1200 additional dust (1600 instead of 400). That brings the average value of 20 packs up to 3200 dust if you don't have all Legendaries.
Similarly, we get, on average, one epic card per 5 packs. Those epics will be worth 300 additional dust each (400 instead of 100) which brings the average value of 20 packs up to 4400 dust if you don't have all epics.
These calculations hold true assuming you want to own all cards and you don't care about golden cards. There can be even more factors involved, but the calculations become a bit more complex and I'm not currently in the mood to do those.
I think you both misunderstood the OP.
He already had a lot of packs and thus has the mini set completed through that.
Now he wonders whether he should spend 2000g on the set anyway because the dust-gold ratio is better than buying normal packs or if he should spend those 2000g on packs for the next expansion.
So it's not a direct comparison of 2500 dust from the mini set vs 2000 dust from packs, but a question of 2500 dust vs 20 new packs.
2500 dust is one legendary and two epic - guaranteed. 20 packs is about one legendary (1 in 20) and 4 epics (1 in 5) - but not guaranteed.
I think it depends on your plans for the expansion: do you plan to buy the preorders (and cover a lot of cards already) or would you use limited gold/ money to buy packs?
In the first case (imo) the dust would be better as you can target craft what you want, the gold is better when you won't complete the majority of cards through other purchases (I think the number of packs is 150 to 200?).
So he clearly has set why bother buying it for dust if that is what he doing the go open the packs. Wasting 2000 gold getting dust seems bad .
I thought he had "almost every single card" from the mini-set, and assumed he would be missing at least one legendary, and not a Deathwarden. Anyway, if he cared more about new cards than dust, I guess he wouldn't compare 2500 dust vs. 2000 dust, and indeed think of new cards as "cards I don't need to craft".
I'm going with the suggestion that in the end, he wants the most amount of dust, which is still reasonable, considering that he probably would eventually also get "dust"-packs from the next expansion as well.
In other words, the 2000 gold he doesn't spend now would initially get him new cards in the next expansion, but unless he only obtains the absolute mininum of packs next set, he would eventually have spend 2000 gold on dust, and then it would matter again if you received 2000 dust for your 2000 gold, or 2500. Even if he was more interested in new cards than more dust, outside of spending very little gold on the next expansion, the dust-ratio should be taken into account.
And that's before considering that most of the time, you will receive less than 2000 dust for 2000 gold, and only on rare ocassions more. While the "100 dust per pack" number isn't "wrong", it's misleading, as your chance to get 100 dust per pack is far from 100%. For a single pack, the chance to get 100 dust or more is roughly about 35%.
He could get an all new legendary from the next set with those packs, sure, but it's pure speculation if that one would be worthwhile, and not another legendary he would end up disenchanting. Generally speaking, you can't really count new cards as "full price", like every Common being 40 dust, every rare being 100 etc. It's not entirely wrong, and debatably more on point even, but it's something that players need to decide for themselves, as in which cards they want, how much they care about completion in their collection etc.
Most players care more about what they are missing than what they have, which is why min-maxing dust even matters. And since getting all commons and rares is pretty easy anway, you eventually get to a point where every common and rare is only worth its disenchating value anyway. It's a bit different with epics and legendaries, and I don't think anyone actually disenchants all the epics and legendaries they get, but I can't make assumptions about whether they get epics and legendaries they actually want to keep either.
The fairest way to put things is that every card is only worth its disenchant value, but can be worth more, depending on your own preferences. Some players will disenchant Yogg-Saron, Master of Fate, and others would disenchant half their collection to craft him.
what about buying the golden mini set for the dust? to round off legends I don't have?