A person who comes into a gaming forum to criticize one of the only truthful streamers that is not doing Blizzard’s boot licking and criticizing his critiques for the inconvenient truth he espoused and exposed is truly a COWARD!
Does the fact that Blizzard is an imperfect biased corporate player ruffle your feathers so much that you feel the need to invade our leisure space reserved for Game discussion to boost your low self esteem?
Your personal life must be so empty Shadowrisen that you are compelled to knock down another so you can appear a little bit more relevant and intelligent huh? Everybody is bold behind a keyboard and computer screen, but if you ever write Zeddy’s name on this forum again I will be the first to stand as his defender with my 2 Rockbiters in Wild to teach you some well deserved lessons in manners.
I will fade you up like a Barber and tag your Hero like it’s on sale at a department store. I truly despise Cowardice and you Shadowrisen are a COWARD!
So do you have any actual response to what I said?
Not sure what posting battletags has to do with anything, but Shadowrisen#1320
Shit like that Shamanistic post is exactly what I was talking about with the final issue of the first video. These people manage to position themselves as "brave" and otherwise special. Inevitably, some folks are so taken in with it that suddenly, anyone who dares criticize is a COWARD! and blah blah blah. Notice, of course, not a single response to anything I said, which isn't surprising given that everything I said came straight from Zeddy's vids itself.
Anyway, RealShamanistic, you are proudly defending a racist who is such a crusader for truth, he lies repeatedly in the videos that purport to be all about sticking up for you. I've listed several of said lies. I seriously doubt you read the original post, since if you did, you would know that I never said one word in defense of Blizzard or the reward track system in general.
As a matter of fact, I have responded to others posting here dismissing the diversity consideration out of hand saying that a huge number of people actually support racial and gender diversity. And I have been active in the reward track discussion without saying much in favor of Blizzard at all. But when someone needs to lie . . . and lie . . . and lie to make their point, they can't be said to have argued the case well, even if their ultimate point is correct. And while Zeddy's stance on the reward system may turn out to be correct (none of us will know till we see all the future opportunities to earn xp), the rest of his racist, deliberately misleading rhetoric should not be held up as anything to be lauded.
Call me all the names you like, but refute at least one thing said here with something Zeddy actually said, not just how you see him in your mind.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I am reluctant to give you any more attention, because obviously you are so starved for it that you feel the need to come to forums such as HearthPwn and try and obtain the emotional nurturing that you obviously were so deprived of in your youth which gave rise to someone that needs to post their resume on a gaming forum so that others who read their comments may take them serious. However, since you did write: "RealShamanistic, you are proudly defending a racist," I feel compelled to illuminate the flaw in your argument and cite your original post because it is so important to you and don't worry I will not use profanity in my response as you did to make your response post.
When you stated...
"The second major issue with Zeddy's video was the claim that no persons of color were included. There were several streamers of Asian descent invited, and here we have to be brutally honest. The objective, inarguable racism of excluding Asians from the category "persons of color" is disgusting. It smacks of one's personal attitudes toward a race of people substituting for the factual minority status of Asian people in America. This has been done many times, basically from the reasoning that since Asians don't fit into certain narratives of victimhood as easily as other minorities might (which, btw, is an asinine belief. Anyone ever heard of internment camps?), they should occupy some nebulous space between whiteness and "of color". That is a truly revolting practice, and it deserves to be called out to his face."
So...since Zeddy didn't count Asian streamers as "people of color" according to your definition, you believe that Zeddy is racist against all Asians? Your assertion assumes to know the mental vantage point of Zeddy towards an entire group of people simply because of the fact he did not mention the Asian streamers. Why stop there Shadowrisen? Why not go further and say that he is racist towards all people who are from India? He did not mention them, and India is a major country located in Asia that has Hearthstone players/streamers and did not have representation in the tournament mentioned in Zeddy's video.
Shadowrisen here is a tip they should have taught you in law school, when you attempt to take down someone and claim they are a racist and use the same classification standards to bolster your argument you leave yourself open to the same level of criticism you seek to correct. I know, the Snowflake in you will not let this go and you will probably call me every name in the book, but I was cut from the Racial cloth of Warcraft 3, I only see Orc, Human, Undead, and Night Elf in this world and proudly identify as an Orc.
BTW still waiting on that challenge...playing a few games may help you lighten up.
So, you said I believe Zeddy is racist against "all" Asians, and presumably use the "all" to branch out to India, but then immediately point out that there weren't any people of Indian descent (as far as I know) at the tournament. So, I'm not sure how you can put words in my mouth about Indians.
No, I have no idea of his opinions toward "all" Asians. I do have an idea of his opinion of the streamers of Asian descent who were included in the tournament. He does not include them as people of color. That is a de facto racist omission. He's since admitted it on his twitter feed, so now you're defending an issue that even he is not.
I didn't need to make claims related to "all" Asians to show clear racism. So I didn't make a claim I can't substantiate.
But, please share if you believe that something I actually said is faulty.
Also, you say you want to play against me and yet you haven't tried to contact me and I've been on the game ever since I shared my battletag. So . . . I don't know what's with the false bravado, but you have what you need to start playing if you want.
Finally, why would I call you names? The only "name" I have called anyone is racist, and there was a very specific reason for it. Don't project.
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Diamond friended me earlier, and I accepted. So, pretty sure I wouldn't have missed you.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
The point of my statement was lost on you. Simply by saying he did not mention anyone from a specific country that is in Asia, I was following your logic of: If he did not mention them then clearly he is racist towards that group of people. That is flawed because you can expand it out to claim he was racist towards anyone he did not mention. That was the point.
Also, I didn't say you called me names, I said you used profanity. Read more carefully next time.
You said I would not let this go and probably call you every name in the book. I read fine, thank you.
And he did mention those Asians. He said there were no people of color invited to the tournament. They were invited to the tournament. Therefore, he was stating they are not people of color. He absolutely spoke about them, unlike Indians.
Can't help but notice that challenge isn't happening.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
A person who comes into a gaming forum to criticize one of the only truthful streamers that is not doing Blizzard’s boot licking and criticizing his critiques for the inconvenient truth he espoused and exposed is truly a COWARD!
Does the fact that Blizzard is an imperfect biased corporate player ruffle your feathers so much that you feel the need to invade our leisure space reserved for Game discussion to boost your low self esteem?
Your personal life must be so empty Shadowrisen that you are compelled to knock down another so you can appear a little bit more relevant and intelligent huh? Everybody is bold behind a keyboard and computer screen, but if you ever write Zeddy’s name on this forum again I will be the first to stand as his defender with my 2 Rockbiters in Wild to teach you some well deserved lessons in manners.
I will fade you up like a Barber and tag your Hero like it’s on sale at a department store. I truly despise Cowardice and you Shadowrisen are a COWARD!
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Whenever you accept my request, I've been online for quite a while waiting.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
1. it's BS to invite someone based on their gender or race. next we will have LGBTQP soon and that will be the day I say goodbye to Hearthstone. We don't want politics and reverse discrimination in games. Black lives matters was the last proof we had, a bunch of terrorists disguising under black people. like Christ rock once said, "I love black people, but i hate N*ggers", his quote , not mine. I also agree, Pathra is not the best player, but if Blizzard wants to give her a chance, at least she got it.
2. Hearthstone is AFFORDABLE, I can spend $40 and get additional 80-100 extra packs and I would probably have most cards and craft some legendaries I want. Those who think Hearthstone is expensive... well just play battlegrounds or try a mobile game.. where you will face pay2win players who spent tens of thousands of dollars. Blizzard games are cheap..15bux a month for WoW, 15-20$ per month for HS. I work and have a multilevel marketing business, which means i spent 2 hours max everyday gaming. If you work more than you play games, theoratically you should have money for luxury. Other people that I know spent money on things like bicycles, expensive dining , good for them, I spend mine on blizzard games.
3. Zeddy please just shut up.
Did you really just flexed with your pyramid scheme business to make a point how Hearthstone is affordable?
Shamanistic lost first game, but I think he DC'ed in the 2nd. It was Wild Highlander Priest vs Even Shaman, and he was nice enough to have the challenge a friend quest, so not exactly the grudge match of the century.
EDIT: Sorry I didn't have the quest too
2nd EDIT: Well, Shaman is still online, but just went away in the middle of a game. Seriously hope everything is cool IRL, he seemed to be playing legit and wasn't losing when he stopped.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Not to let facts get in the way of your story but here is what really happened.
You got me the first game you played with the Net Deck version of Raza Priest because you never play Wild. There were very challenging decisions made of playing Zephrs, Kazakus, Raza, and Anduin all on curve, not that Blizzard favors singleton decks, but you got me fair enough.
Then during the second game I had to go face time with my wife for her Brothers Wedding.
I would welcome the opportunity to play 4 different classes and 4 different decks in a best of 7 like a real tournament style match I just need more time because I have a life.
Your welcome for the Gold, you stop calling people racist your endangered of becoming a real human being.
Respectfully,
Shamanistic
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A person who comes into a gaming forum to criticize one of the only truthful streamers that is not doing Blizzard’s boot licking and criticizing his critiques for the inconvenient truth he espoused and exposed is truly a COWARD!
Does the fact that Blizzard is an imperfect biased corporate player ruffle your feathers so much that you feel the need to invade our leisure space reserved for Game discussion to boost your low self esteem?
Your personal life must be so empty Shadowrisen that you are compelled to knock down another so you can appear a little bit more relevant and intelligent huh? Everybody is bold behind a keyboard and computer screen, but if you ever write Zeddy’s name on this forum again I will be the first to stand as his defender with my 2 Rockbiters in Wild to teach you some well deserved lessons in manners.
I will fade you up like a Barber and tag your Hero like it’s on sale at a department store. I truly despise Cowardice and you Shadowrisen are a COWARD!
Offer stands: Battletag #1587 Shamanistic
Zeddy is the voice of unheard period . The other streamers were pussying around till he started the movement.
Weird flex but ok
Thank you Sir. I can’t tolerate bad behavior to those who do good work.
So do you have any actual response to what I said?
Not sure what posting battletags has to do with anything, but Shadowrisen#1320
Shit like that Shamanistic post is exactly what I was talking about with the final issue of the first video. These people manage to position themselves as "brave" and otherwise special. Inevitably, some folks are so taken in with it that suddenly, anyone who dares criticize is a COWARD! and blah blah blah. Notice, of course, not a single response to anything I said, which isn't surprising given that everything I said came straight from Zeddy's vids itself.
Anyway, RealShamanistic, you are proudly defending a racist who is such a crusader for truth, he lies repeatedly in the videos that purport to be all about sticking up for you. I've listed several of said lies. I seriously doubt you read the original post, since if you did, you would know that I never said one word in defense of Blizzard or the reward track system in general.
As a matter of fact, I have responded to others posting here dismissing the diversity consideration out of hand saying that a huge number of people actually support racial and gender diversity. And I have been active in the reward track discussion without saying much in favor of Blizzard at all. But when someone needs to lie . . . and lie . . . and lie to make their point, they can't be said to have argued the case well, even if their ultimate point is correct. And while Zeddy's stance on the reward system may turn out to be correct (none of us will know till we see all the future opportunities to earn xp), the rest of his racist, deliberately misleading rhetoric should not be held up as anything to be lauded.
Call me all the names you like, but refute at least one thing said here with something Zeddy actually said, not just how you see him in your mind.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Shadowrisen,
I am reluctant to give you any more attention, because obviously you are so starved for it that you feel the need to come to forums such as HearthPwn and try and obtain the emotional nurturing that you obviously were so deprived of in your youth which gave rise to someone that needs to post their resume on a gaming forum so that others who read their comments may take them serious. However, since you did write: "RealShamanistic, you are proudly defending a racist," I feel compelled to illuminate the flaw in your argument and cite your original post because it is so important to you and don't worry I will not use profanity in my response as you did to make your response post.
When you stated...
"The second major issue with Zeddy's video was the claim that no persons of color were included. There were several streamers of Asian descent invited, and here we have to be brutally honest. The objective, inarguable racism of excluding Asians from the category "persons of color" is disgusting. It smacks of one's personal attitudes toward a race of people substituting for the factual minority status of Asian people in America. This has been done many times, basically from the reasoning that since Asians don't fit into certain narratives of victimhood as easily as other minorities might (which, btw, is an asinine belief. Anyone ever heard of internment camps?), they should occupy some nebulous space between whiteness and "of color". That is a truly revolting practice, and it deserves to be called out to his face."
So...since Zeddy didn't count Asian streamers as "people of color" according to your definition, you believe that Zeddy is racist against all Asians? Your assertion assumes to know the mental vantage point of Zeddy towards an entire group of people simply because of the fact he did not mention the Asian streamers. Why stop there Shadowrisen? Why not go further and say that he is racist towards all people who are from India? He did not mention them, and India is a major country located in Asia that has Hearthstone players/streamers and did not have representation in the tournament mentioned in Zeddy's video.
Shadowrisen here is a tip they should have taught you in law school, when you attempt to take down someone and claim they are a racist and use the same classification standards to bolster your argument you leave yourself open to the same level of criticism you seek to correct. I know, the Snowflake in you will not let this go and you will probably call me every name in the book, but I was cut from the Racial cloth of Warcraft 3, I only see Orc, Human, Undead, and Night Elf in this world and proudly identify as an Orc.
BTW still waiting on that challenge...playing a few games may help you lighten up.
So, you said I believe Zeddy is racist against "all" Asians, and presumably use the "all" to branch out to India, but then immediately point out that there weren't any people of Indian descent (as far as I know) at the tournament. So, I'm not sure how you can put words in my mouth about Indians.
No, I have no idea of his opinions toward "all" Asians. I do have an idea of his opinion of the streamers of Asian descent who were included in the tournament. He does not include them as people of color. That is a de facto racist omission. He's since admitted it on his twitter feed, so now you're defending an issue that even he is not.
I didn't need to make claims related to "all" Asians to show clear racism. So I didn't make a claim I can't substantiate.
But, please share if you believe that something I actually said is faulty.
Also, you say you want to play against me and yet you haven't tried to contact me and I've been on the game ever since I shared my battletag. So . . . I don't know what's with the false bravado, but you have what you need to start playing if you want.
Finally, why would I call you names? The only "name" I have called anyone is racist, and there was a very specific reason for it. Don't project.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Diamond friended me earlier, and I accepted. So, pretty sure I wouldn't have missed you.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Shadowrisen,
The point of my statement was lost on you. Simply by saying he did not mention anyone from a specific country that is in Asia, I was following your logic of: If he did not mention them then clearly he is racist towards that group of people. That is flawed because you can expand it out to claim he was racist towards anyone he did not mention. That was the point.
Also, I didn't say you called me names, I said you used profanity. Read more carefully next time.
OFFER STANDS: #1587 Shamanistic
You said I would not let this go and probably call you every name in the book. I read fine, thank you.
And he did mention those Asians. He said there were no people of color invited to the tournament. They were invited to the tournament. Therefore, he was stating they are not people of color. He absolutely spoke about them, unlike Indians.
Can't help but notice that challenge isn't happening.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
I challenged you, you friend request me...or are you scared Snowflake ?
Later: YOU GOTTA CHALLENGE ME!!!!
No problem.
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Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
When’s game time playa?
Whenever you accept my request, I've been online for quite a while waiting.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Accepting in 2 mins
Hope you two have fun btw, sometimes slinging cards can be theraputic.
....and it is all just "boohoo, I disagree". weak stuff.
Did you really just flexed with your pyramid scheme business to make a point how Hearthstone is affordable?
Ender, I have to admit I laughed a bit too.
Shamanistic lost first game, but I think he DC'ed in the 2nd. It was Wild Highlander Priest vs Even Shaman, and he was nice enough to have the challenge a friend quest, so not exactly the grudge match of the century.
EDIT: Sorry I didn't have the quest too
2nd EDIT: Well, Shaman is still online, but just went away in the middle of a game. Seriously hope everything is cool IRL, he seemed to be playing legit and wasn't losing when he stopped.
Helpful Clarification on Forbidden Topics for Hearthstone Forums:
Enjoying Americans winning in the Olympics is forbidden because it is political. A 14 plus page discussion of state-sponsored lawsuits against a multi-national corporation based on harassment, discrimination, and wrongful death allegations is apparently not political enough to raise an issue.
Shadowrisen,
Not to let facts get in the way of your story but here is what really happened.
You got me the first game you played with the Net Deck version of Raza Priest because you never play Wild. There were very challenging decisions made of playing Zephrs, Kazakus, Raza, and Anduin all on curve, not that Blizzard favors singleton decks, but you got me fair enough.
Then during the second game I had to go face time with my wife for her Brothers Wedding.
I would welcome the opportunity to play 4 different classes and 4 different decks in a best of 7 like a real tournament style match I just need more time because I have a life.
Your welcome for the Gold, you stop calling people racist your endangered of becoming a real human being.
Respectfully,
Shamanistic