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This guy gets it.
At best the card is written poorly and the lack of a buff slot given like it is given with the rush lackey is maybe excusable as a simple human oversight. Most of us know the game is super buggy these days and some of us may also know that a lot of experienced blizzard employees have left and went to new gaming studios build by former blizzard leaders (before activision)
however it is a fact that the card is misleading and should be rewritten at least, if the effect is indented.
could be as easy as saying "after a friendly minion with rush attacks, deal 2 damage to enemy hero."
Not bugged, but should this combo exist for control warriors? NOPE.
QQ NERF IT
Someone has claimed that it is a FACT that ETC is misleading, and yet, I gave a very obvious example of another situation in Hearthstone which clearly and obviously suggests that any minion with the ability "rush", whether it is given by the text of the minion itself, or bestowed by another card, should be considered a "rush minion". This example generalizes to any card which effects power up and down. It generalizes to any card related to toughness as well.
Another example is the Corrupt mechanic as a whole as it relates to changing casting costs in hand. If a 5-cost corrupt minion is in hand, and you have a Survival of the Fittest in hand as well (usually 10-cost), but you play Survival via Kael'thas ability, thus making it cost 0, the 5 cost corrupt card will not corrupt, though the card text of Survival says it costs 10. The card text has been changed by another card, albeit temporarily, and the corrupt mechanic sees costs as they are currently, not as they are solely based on original card text.
The single counterexample given in this thread has been Warsong Commander and Charge. First of all, having never played those two cards together, I'm only taking a rando's word that Commander does not, in fact, give +1 attack to a creature with Charge played on it, and we all know how reliable assuming someone else knows what they are talking about is online. But assuming that example is correct, I would suggest THAT interaction is the misleading one, as the creature that has Charge played on it is clearly given charge, and in all other cases I can think of, should be the beneficiary of Commander's ability.
Personally, I read ETC and thought of Houndmaster Shaw, thinking that would be a funny meme if you could have both of those cards in one deck. Never for a second did it occur to me that interaction wouldn't work, because that would be the illogical result. So no, it is not a FACT that ETC is misleading. It is a FACT that some people assume too limited a notion of "rush minions" when they read those two words. And I know this because once again, as we ponder this question, let us not lose sight of the fact that we already know the ultimate answer. We know that ETC counts minions given rush by another source as "rush minions" because it simply does. One can observe this conclusively whenever said deck is at work.
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I agree it should get a buff indicator when you mouse over it to make things clearer, but it is clearly is considered a permanent buff. If you copy a minion that gained rush from an card effect, the copied minion will have rush.
As for the warsorng commander issue, I susepct this is a genuine bug.
That's the percect answer for it!
I bet you all dollars to donuts that TC is mad he lost to an E.T.C OTK deck then made this thread to complain about it in some arbitrary way to nerf the card to hide the fact that they are salty.
Weil, a minion that gets Deathrattle from a spell like Grave Rune is not considered being a Deathrattle minion and, for example, wouldn‘t be resurrected by N‘Zoth.
So maybe Broomstick should not turn the minions into Rush minions as well...
Control is like Chess - using your given resources wisely.
Aggro is like Russian Roulette - Hope to topdeck the right card/ hope for the opponent to topdeck the wrong card.
Parallels to the IQ of the players of both games are, of course, coincidental ;)
It is considered being a Deathrattle minion, but just when it is in the board. This is why is can trigger Deathrattle effects, such as Play Dead. It's the same as Apotheosis giving Lifesteal to a minion, the attacks of this minion will trigger Lifesteal effects e.g. Il'gynoth, but just when this minion is on the board. When it is not (hand, graveyard, deck) it is no longer a Deathrattle minion, so it seems fair that it is not summoned by N'Zoth, becase the Deathrattle is acquired while on the board, not a per se characteristic of the card, This is also different from E.T.C. since E.T.C. interacts with minions on the board, while N'Zoth interacts with graveyard minions.
I think the interaction is ok!
Nope, while on board it is a deathrattle minion, hence it can be affected by cards which target deathrattle minions such as Defias Cleaner.
However, when minions died, they are sent to the graveyard removing all buffs, which is why resurrection does not bring back buffed versions. Hence, N Zoth will not detect them as having deathrattle previously.
Similarly, any minion which are given taunt by other spells can be targeted by black Knight. So why should minions given rush not be affected by ETC. By the way, mechs from Dr boom will also be rush minions.
Yeah that makes Sense! Thank you.
Control is like Chess - using your given resources wisely.
Aggro is like Russian Roulette - Hope to topdeck the right card/ hope for the opponent to topdeck the wrong card.
Parallels to the IQ of the players of both games are, of course, coincidental ;)
About the warsong commander and charge interaction, it depends on the order of your play (you can try it yourself).
If you play the warsong commander last, it will gives the given-charge-minion +1 attack. If you play warsong commander before the charge spell, it will not.
So I will assume, from the coding side, it happens because the re-evaluation order of the effect type. Aura effect (warsong) is re-evaluated everytime new effect added to the board just before that new effect added. So warsong will not buff the minion that given charge after warsong already played. Even southsea deckhand won't get the buff if you play it after warsong, but will get the buff if you play it before warsong. Yeah I know it's weird and might categorized as a bug.
About the etc, the effect is evaluated when a minion attack, it's not Aura like warsong, so compare it with warsong isn't exactly right.
The right comparation is Magic Carpet.
The text is "After you summon 1-cost minion", yet it still trigger the effect if you play the reduced Sea Giant to 1 cost. It doesn't need to say "After you summon minion with 1-cost". Both are interacted with things minion do on the board.