I'm really enjoying the expansion, personally. If others aren't, sorry. Maybe of enough people leave, they will make the changes you ask for. If not, I hope those people find other games they enjoy and the people who continue to enjoy Hearthstone can do so.
you're in all posts about the subject defending their criminal scam. I bet they are not paying you enough for it. Find a doctor, don't come here with your shit, it's not helping anyone. And why are you here in a topic asking for changes if u're not asking anything?
I'm really enjoying the expansion, personally. If others aren't, sorry. Maybe of enough people leave, they will make the changes you ask for. If not, I hope those people find other games they enjoy and the people who continue to enjoy Hearthstone can do so.
you're in all posts about the subject defending their criminal scam. I bet they are not paying you enough for it. Find a doctor, don't come here with your shit, it's not helping anyone. And why are you here in a topic asking for changes if u're not asking anything?
TIL I learn that allegedly decreasing the amount of virtual product you give to players for free is criminal.
Please show us the math. It's becoming an unsubstantiated claim at this point. Like many players I've chosen not to buy the tavern pass. Fine with it. If you don't like the product, you don't have to buy it. But what's the point in trying to sink the company if other players feel like the price of the product is worth it to them. Just do you and move on eh?
Plenty of ppl have done it. If had been up to date in the posts on sites like out of cards or reddit or yth from content creators you could see that.
You should be able to provide one link pretty easily then...
Reading all your comments with an overly posh English accent has been very amusing to me, I'm finally getting my money's worth! Grabbing some popcorn, do continue jolly old chaps!
I'm really enjoying the expansion, personally. If others aren't, sorry. Maybe of enough people leave, they will make the changes you ask for. If not, I hope those people find other games they enjoy and the people who continue to enjoy Hearthstone can do so.
And the expansion is not the problem. Content creators like zeddy that were the forerunners of this movement say that they really are liking the expansion.
Issue is regarding the battle tracking rewards system where ppl have done the math and concluded you re bound to get around 2k or less gold by the start of new set.
Yeah but here's the funny thing. Everyone says "people have done the math..." but people are very reluctant to actually provide any. Mostly they are just regurgitating what other people have said, who are in turn regurgitating what other people have said and so on. And the little math I have seen has been deliberately duplicitous in manipulating the figures to make it look bad. I have done my own math and I cannot for the life of me get to a point where you get "around 2k or less gold". By my calculation depending on how much you play the amount of gold you get will vary from slightly less to slightly more. And by slightly I mean 200-300g something like that. And that is before you even consider all the extra rewards you get under the new system - legendaries, packs, tickets etc.
The only group of players (if you can even call them players) that I can envision being worse off is people who used to do their quests and nothing else and not only that did them in the most cheesy min-maxing way possible (i.e. teaming up with a friend and playing suicide decks). Those people might be a little worse off in that they used to be able to do their quests in about half an hour each week, whereas now it might take them about 2 hours per week. But if those are the only players who got hurt, then I'm cool with that as what are they even contributing to the game?
dont come with your logic stuff here. me and my friends are trying to be irrationally angry for something we dont understand in its enterity but it feels like we are being betrayed by this greedy corporation. free hongkong
The new system is awful blizzard is an awful company at first I was like I’ll give them a chance but now I get 20-30 less packs per expansion which is awful
MY MATH AND NUMBERS MAY BE OFF I AM OPEN TO CORRECTIONS
Here is some of my own Math presuming you ONLY go for level 50 - It's a 4 month rotation for each Reward track and "SHOULD" be possible to hit level 50. Levels 6/7/9/11/13/14/16/18/19/21/22/24 = 100gp (total 1200 gp) Levels 16/28/29/31/32/33/34 = 150gp (total 1050 gp) Levels 36/37/38/39/40/41/42/43/44 = 200gp (total 1800 gp) Levels 45/46/47/48/49 = 300 gp (total 1500 gp) Grand total of GP earned by lvl 50 = 5550 gp
Note: every level there after is 150 GP and still creates the same scaling xp need per additional level.
Even taking the lowest GP quest previously at 50gp we see this:
50gp * 7 = 350/week
350 * 16 = 5600 gp
So as it sits right now WITHOUT additional leveling or even the 10gp bonus per win we had before, the new ranked rewards are only 50 gp lower than before in a 4 month cycle.
However!! If we take into account the wins per day for an additional 10 gp – and assuming you ONLY go for the single 10 gp reward of 3 wins. (meaning you only play till you win 3 games that day). That is an additional 1220 gp in that 4 month time frame.
Now the gap between the old system and the new system a total of 1270gp.
That is the equivalent value of another 9 levels (level 59) on the new system Or another 38,300 xp – Which is another 3 weeks of XP grinding as per outofcards calculations.
Now that I have laid out a BASIC idea of what the math looks like – you can decide if it’s adequate or not.
MY MATH AND NUMBERS MAY BE OFF I AM OPEN TO CORRECTIONS
MY MATH AND NUMBERS MAY BE OFF I AM OPEN TO CORRECTIONS
When you did the 10g = 3 wins math did u used the 30wins = 100g or only the 10g daily from this method to achieve this number ? =1220
I only did 3 wins - 10 gp I didn't do the 100 gp cap of 30 wins. This was meant to showcase the LEAST amount of returns available through the old system.
You're only doing one aide of the math, and then comparing it to level 50.
Assuming your example, 16 weeks of the minimum 11600 xp from quests is 185.600 xp
If we equate 3 wins per day to an average of 50 minutes of playtime a day for 112 days, that is 93.3 hours of play, which depending on the type of play can be 28000 - 37.333 more xp.
Now that most of the novelty of the new expansion has passed I find that once I complete my quests I stop for the day. 10 gold for three wins wasn't much but it made it feel like playing past the bare minimum was worthwhile.
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Dependable loan sharks since 1960. We sink our teeth into every deal we make.
Now that most of the novelty of the new expansion has passed I find that once I complete my quests I stop for the day. 10 gold for three wins wasn't much but it made it feel like playing past the bare minimum was worthwhile.
The XP you get just for playing is worth almost exactly the same as the 10g for 3 wins was.
MY MATH AND NUMBERS MAY BE OFF I AM OPEN TO CORRECTIONS
Here is some of my own Math presuming you ONLY go for level 50 -
Well let's stop you right there to start with. Just doing your quests and literally nothing else will get you to level 56. Add in some reasonable level of play time as well and you're almost certainly looking at over level 60.
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The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
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you're in all posts about the subject defending their criminal scam. I bet they are not paying you enough for it.
Find a doctor, don't come here with your shit, it's not helping anyone. And why are you here in a topic asking for changes if u're not asking anything?
TIL I learn that allegedly decreasing the amount of virtual product you give to players for free is criminal.
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
You should be able to provide one link pretty easily then...
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
My drunken mother never teached me how to have an argument without insulting the whole family including the goldfish.
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ikr, one can't just have an argument these days without the other part insult you and your whole family, your whole city top kek
Reading all your comments with an overly posh English accent has been very amusing to me, I'm finally getting my money's worth! Grabbing some popcorn, do continue jolly old chaps!
" In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded."
dont come with your logic stuff here. me and my friends are trying to be irrationally angry for something we dont understand in its enterity but it feels like we are being betrayed by this greedy corporation. free hongkong
Hearthpwn = The even more clueless and spoiled Greta Thunberg fanclub.
As an Activision shareholder, I approve of this change. The game is fun, money is better.
The new system is awful blizzard is an awful company at first I was like I’ll give them a chance but now I get 20-30 less packs per expansion which is awful
SUcks that they probably make less after now several HS influencers clearly state against the system.
First and foremost - all the complainers out there check this article about the rewards track as quoted form Ben Lee:
https://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-apologizes-for-hearthstone-rewards-mess-says-changes-are-coming/
Second here is a link to show the XP and time requirements to level upon the new rewards track (though as stated there are still unknown parts yet to come so this is only preliminary):
https://outof.cards/hearthstone/2200-the-rewards-track-how-long-to-get-to-level-50-644000-experience-required-to-get-to-level-150
MY MATH AND NUMBERS MAY BE OFF I AM OPEN TO CORRECTIONS
Here is some of my own Math presuming you ONLY go for level 50 -
It's a 4 month rotation for each Reward track and "SHOULD" be possible to hit level 50.
Levels 6/7/9/11/13/14/16/18/19/21/22/24 = 100gp (total 1200 gp)
Levels 16/28/29/31/32/33/34 = 150gp (total 1050 gp)
Levels 36/37/38/39/40/41/42/43/44 = 200gp (total 1800 gp)
Levels 45/46/47/48/49 = 300 gp (total 1500 gp)
Grand total of GP earned by lvl 50 = 5550 gp
Note: every level there after is 150 GP and still creates the same scaling xp need per additional level.
Even taking the lowest GP quest previously at 50gp we see this:
50gp * 7 = 350/week
350 * 16 = 5600 gp
So as it sits right now WITHOUT additional leveling or even the 10gp bonus per win we had before, the new ranked rewards are only 50 gp lower than before in a 4 month cycle.
However!!
If we take into account the wins per day for an additional 10 gp – and assuming you ONLY go for the single 10 gp reward of 3 wins. (meaning you only play till you win 3 games that day).
That is an additional 1220 gp in that 4 month time frame.
Now the gap between the old system and the new system a total of 1270gp.
That is the equivalent value of another 9 levels (level 59) on the new system
Or another 38,300 xp – Which is another 3 weeks of XP grinding as per outofcards calculations.
Now that I have laid out a BASIC idea of what the math looks like – you can decide if it’s adequate or not.
MY MATH AND NUMBERS MAY BE OFF I AM OPEN TO CORRECTIONS
Cute, ineffective, but cute.
About three, two of which I hadn't heard of until Tuesday.
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
When you did the 10g = 3 wins math did u used the 30wins = 100g or only the 10g daily from this method to achieve this number ? =1220
I only did 3 wins - 10 gp
I didn't do the 100 gp cap of 30 wins.
This was meant to showcase the LEAST amount of returns available through the old system.
Cute, ineffective, but cute.
You're only doing one aide of the math, and then comparing it to level 50.
Assuming your example, 16 weeks of the minimum 11600 xp from quests is 185.600 xp
If we equate 3 wins per day to an average of 50 minutes of playtime a day for 112 days, that is 93.3 hours of play, which depending on the type of play can be 28000 - 37.333 more xp.
That will land you to level 54-56.
Now that most of the novelty of the new expansion has passed I find that once I complete my quests I stop for the day. 10 gold for three wins wasn't much but it made it feel like playing past the bare minimum was worthwhile.
Dependable loan sharks since 1960. We sink our teeth into every deal we make.
The XP you get just for playing is worth almost exactly the same as the 10g for 3 wins was.
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
Well let's stop you right there to start with. Just doing your quests and literally nothing else will get you to level 56. Add in some reasonable level of play time as well and you're almost certainly looking at over level 60.
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.